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Re: I just got back from a round-trip to Norman, OK

#26 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:03 pm

Flybrick wrote:
I now have spare keys hidden outside my apartment
Which no complex kid/bored teenager/etc could ever find and use to rob you.

At which point, no doubt, you'll be dailing for the police.


Regarding your daughter and given the update you provided, would she accept an apology from the rookie cop and the police department?

You wrote a rookie cop was looking, he thought, for a kidnapped young girl.

Besides, and I'm not denigrating the injustice done, her privacy being violated, was she harmed?

Don't get me wrong, I'd be p1ssed if this had happened to me, but the cop did leave his card (he didn't have to), the police admit they were wrong, and they were, according to your account, looking for what they thought was a kidnapped child. In those circumstances, I might be inclined to accept the apology.

So, would a public apology suffice or will a suit for a substantial amount follow? With the payment coming from the city's tax revenue which otherwise might go for other police, parks, etc, etc.

Curious as to the course of action you recommend to your daughter.
The child was not kidnapped, it was a custody dispute. No court order had been issued so each parent had the same rights.

I would have been majorly pissed and done my best to have people fired but I would not have sued.

I do not control what my daughter does. I told her it wasn't worth the time and aggravation.
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#27 Post by christie1111 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:37 pm

Bob Juch wrote: I do not control what my daughter does. I told her it wasn't worth the time and aggravation.

And yet you helped her find a lawyer
Bob Juch wrote: She contacted a law firm that I found for her.

So you just enable the behavior?
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#28 Post by Bob78164 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:40 pm

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Uhhhh, beast? You may want to consider Decaf Pepsi.

I believe him. This kind of stuff seems to run in his family. But they put themselves into those kind of situations....

I didn't say I didn't believe him. I just found it high-larious that he felt the need to play the proof card over and over and over again.... when nobody said a word. There's a big difference between this and those wild yarns his sketchball kin give him that he eats right up....

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My daughter's update on her lawsuit: She contacted a law firm that I found for her. A lawyer is actually flying down from New York to meet with her. They're going to sue the apartment complex, the police, and DFS. A police sergeant admitted to the lawyer that they shouldn't have entered the apartment, that it was a rookie and he made a mistake, and that DFS never should have gone there in the first place. This should make the news.
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Re: I just got back from a round-trip to Norman, OK

#29 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:10 pm

christie1111 wrote:
Bob Juch wrote: I do not control what my daughter does. I told her it wasn't worth the time and aggravation.
And yet you helped her find a lawyer
Bob Juch wrote: She contacted a law firm that I found for her.
So you just enable the behavior?
I wasn't going to be rude and tell her no. I was hoping the lawyer would tell her to forget it.
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#30 Post by TheConfessor » Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:47 pm

tlynn78 wrote: I've found that if one waits around a WalMart long enough, invariably a cop shows up. They usually have a slim jim they'll use for free.
This statement strikes me as more absurd than anything Bob has said. I can't imagine any cop around here doing that. It's not their job.

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#31 Post by christie1111 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:11 pm

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tlynn78 wrote: I've found that if one waits around a WalMart long enough, invariably a cop shows up. They usually have a slim jim they'll use for free.
This statement strikes me as more absurd than anything Bob has said. I can't imagine any cop around here doing that. It's not their job.
They would suggest you call AAA.

Also, newer model cars are usually hard, if not impossible, to open with a slim jim.
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#32 Post by Estonut » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:12 pm

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tlynn78 wrote: I've found that if one waits around a WalMart long enough, invariably a cop shows up. They usually have a slim jim they'll use for free.
This statement strikes me as more absurd than anything Bob has said. I can't imagine any cop around here doing that. It's not their job.
You'd have to bat your eyelashes at a special kind of cop...
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#33 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:43 pm

christie1111 wrote:
TheConfessor wrote:
tlynn78 wrote: I've found that if one waits around a WalMart long enough, invariably a cop shows up. They usually have a slim jim they'll use for free.
This statement strikes me as more absurd than anything Bob has said. I can't imagine any cop around here doing that. It's not their job.
They would suggest you call AAA.

Also, newer model cars are usually hard, if not impossible, to open with a slim jim.
As I said, the cop who guards my apartment complex has one in her car. I thought that was unusual though; I don't hear about cops doing that except in small towns.
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Re: I just got back from a round-trip to Norman, OK

#34 Post by tlynn78 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:55 pm

TheConfessor wrote:
tlynn78 wrote: I've found that if one waits around a WalMart long enough, invariably a cop shows up. They usually have a slim jim they'll use for free.
This statement strikes me as more absurd than anything Bob has said. I can't imagine any cop around here doing that. It's not their job.
Well, see, it was a joke, after a fashion.

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#35 Post by DevilKitty100 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:03 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
TheConfessor wrote:
tlynn78 wrote: I've found that if one waits around a WalMart long enough, invariably a cop shows up. They usually have a slim jim they'll use for free.
This statement strikes me as more absurd than anything Bob has said. I can't imagine any cop around here doing that. It's not their job.
Well, see, it was a joke, after a fashion.

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JFTR, this entire thread has cracked me up. And that was a perfectly good, bored joke, T. :D

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#36 Post by christie1111 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:07 pm

DevilKitty100 wrote:
tlynn78 wrote:
TheConfessor wrote: This statement strikes me as more absurd than anything Bob has said. I can't imagine any cop around here doing that. It's not their job.
Well, see, it was a joke, after a fashion.

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JFTR, this entire thread has cracked me up. And that was a perfectly good, bored joke, T. :D

Well, at least she didn't say donut shop!

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#37 Post by Lizbit » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:07 pm

Thank you for leaving my name out of it, Mr. Bob. You are a Xcellent frien for covering for me, but I guess I'd better fess up with the real story.

So my alien frien from Planet Possum came back to see me. This time he drove his big space ship right over my yard. It had a sort of greenish glow. When it was high in the sky, it looked like a big ball of green fire, but when it got low, I knew what it was. Anyway, the huge green thing overhead scared BeBe right inside, but my next door neighbor frien Jett came over to see what was going on. Jett is very big and very strong. He unlatched the gate with his nose and pushed it open. My alien frien and I were trying to talk, but his flying machine made enough noise that it was hard to hear each other. I motioned to him to come on down to the ground, so he put himself into a beam of light and floated to the yard. All three of us went through the gate to the front yard, where it was a tiny bit quieter. He and Jett were looking at each other funny, so I introduced them so they could be friens, too. They were making small talk, when all of a sudden, a horrible, ugly white truck turned into our cul-de-sac. It was one of the leash nazis from Animal Control! The alien zapped his light beam back into action and disappeared into his space ship. Jett ran one way and I ran another. We needed BeBe to create a diversion, but she was already comfy in front of the tv watching Toddlers and Tiaras or one of those dumb shows she likes. The Animal Control guy looked at the size of Jett and followed me. I kept away from him for a while, but he finally got me cornered down the street against a chain link fence, and he got a sort of noose hook thingie around my neck. He dragged me back to his truck, put me under arrest, and lifted/shoved me into a cage in back.

My town is building a big, new, nice Animal Shelter, and I thought that might be where I'd go, but it turns out they haven't finished it yet, and the old one was too crowded to accept one more prisoner, or stray. On the other hand, a big, new, nice jail was having its grand opening that very day, so they had lots of room. That's where I ended up. I was booked, had my mug shot taken, and was sent to the exercise yard. I had to make bail to get out, and I was afraid to call my mom. I thought about which friens lived closest. I thought about Josie in Tulsa, but she's so little, I wasn't sure if she had enough room on her tiny sweater to have a pocket with enough room for bail money. I thought of Mr. little, but I knew he might have to be back in time for work. Then I thought of Mr. Bob! I was sure he was a deep-pockets kind of guy, and I'd read that he lived in NORTH Dallas. I was pretty sure that was just down the road. I used my one phone call and told him the deal.

He was kind of grouchy about it at first. (I'm sorry, Mr. Bob, but you were.) He pointed out that he had never even met me in person and he said he wouldn't drive to Norman.

(to be continued)

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#38 Post by Lizbit » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:27 pm

At that very moment, a group of town officials opened the gate to the jail exercise yard. They weren't expecting any four-footers to be there, and the jail 2-footers hadn't yet found one of those orange jump suits for me to wear, so the muckety mucks didn't seem particularly upset when I made a break for freedom. I heard them laughing as I rounded the corner. I ran and ran until I finally had to stop to get my breath. I looked around. This was not an area I'd ever visited before, not even in my mom's car. I was lost. At that moment, I looked down the street and saw a Wal-Mart. Simultaneously, I realized that I still was holding the cell phone and, by some miracle, Mr. Bob was still on the line. I begged him to meet me there.

"Why would a damn dog want to go to WalMart?" he asked. He was still crabby.

"I need to go to the bathroom," I answered.

"You're a dog. Find a yard!"

"I may be a dog, and I may be a dogsoldier," I responded with as much dignity as I could muster, "but I'm still a lady! I've never been to this Wal-Mart and I don't know how to get home from here."

Okay, to make a long story shorter, he finally agreed to meet me in the bathroom at WalMart and take me home. Turns out there are two WalMarts in Norman, and he went to the other one first, and then when he got to the right one, he went into the men's room while I was waiting in the ladies. Nevertheless, we finally found each other and laffed and laffed. We had a lovely chat while he drove me home. I sneaked into the back yard where I live and he drove back to Dallas (turns out that's a lot farther away than I had realized,) where he got locked out of his car and the place he lives. I'm betting he got a tiny bit crabby again for a little while, but I will remain forever grateful for his help to me.

I don't know if any of this will make the papers. When I got put in jail, I told them my name was Elizabeth, so maybe nobody realizes it was me. Nothing has shown up so far, except for the part about the jail's Grand Opening and another report the next night about the green ball of fire.

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#39 Post by DevilKitty100 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:29 pm

Lizbit wrote:At that very moment, a group of town officials opened the gate to the jail exercise yard. They weren't expecting any four-footers to be there, and the jail 2-footers hadn't yet found one of those orange jump suits for me to wear, so the muckety mucks didn't seem particularly upset when I made a break for freedom. I heard them laughing as I rounded the corner. I ran and ran until I finally had to stop to get my breath. I looked around. This was not an area I'd ever visited before, not even in my mom's car. I was lost. At that moment, I looked down the street and saw a Wal-Mart. Simultaneously, I realized that I still was holding the cell phone and, by some miracle, Mr. Bob was still on the line. I begged him to meet me there.

"Why would a damn dog want to go to WalMart?" he asked. He was still crabby.

"I need to go to the bathroom," I answered.

"You're a dog. Find a yard!"

"I may be a dog, and I may be a dogsoldier," I responded with as much dignity as I could muster, "but I'm still a lady! I've never been to this Wal-Mart and I don't know how to get home from here."

Okay, to make a long story shorter, he finally agreed to meet me in the bathroom at WalMart and take me home. Turns out there are two WalMarts in Norman, and he went to the other one first, and then when he got to the right one, he went into the men's room while I was waiting in the ladies. Nevertheless, we finally found each other and laffed and laffed. We had a lovely chat while he drove me home. I sneaked into the back yard where I live and he drove back to Dallas (turns out that's a lot farther away than I had realized,) where he got locked out of his car and the place he lives. I'm betting he got a tiny bit crabby again for a little while, but I will remain forever grateful for his help to me.

I don't know if any of this will make the papers. When I got put in jail, I told them my name was Elizabeth, so maybe nobody realizes it was me. Nothing has shown up so far, except for the part about the jail's Grand Opening and another report the next night about the green ball of fire.

ROTFLMAO...........I just can't wait for the rest of this story!!!!!


(And, Lizbit, I hope you're taking some literary license with that being in the slammer part! You're far tooooo pretty to be in jail!)

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#40 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:35 pm

Lizbit wrote:At that very moment, a group of town officials opened the gate to the jail exercise yard. They weren't expecting any four-footers to be there, and the jail 2-footers hadn't yet found one of those orange jump suits for me to wear, so the muckety mucks didn't seem particularly upset when I made a break for freedom. I heard them laughing as I rounded the corner. I ran and ran until I finally had to stop to get my breath. I looked around. This was not an area I'd ever visited before, not even in my mom's car. I was lost. At that moment, I looked down the street and saw a Wal-Mart. Simultaneously, I realized that I still was holding the cell phone and, by some miracle, Mr. Bob was still on the line. I begged him to meet me there.

"Why would a damn dog want to go to WalMart?" he asked. He was still crabby.

"I need to go to the bathroom," I answered.

"You're a dog. Find a yard!"

"I may be a dog, and I may be a dogsoldier," I responded with as much dignity as I could muster, "but I'm still a lady! I've never been to this Wal-Mart and I don't know how to get home from here."

Okay, to make a long story shorter, he finally agreed to meet me in the bathroom at WalMart and take me home. Turns out there are two WalMarts in Norman, and he went to the other one first, and then when he got to the right one, he went into the men's room while I was waiting in the ladies. Nevertheless, we finally found each other and laffed and laffed. We had a lovely chat while he drove me home. I sneaked into the back yard where I live and he drove back to Dallas (turns out that's a lot farther away than I had realized,) where he got locked out of his car and the place he lives. I'm betting he got a tiny bit crabby again for a little while, but I will remain forever grateful for his help to me.

I don't know if any of this will make the papers. When I got put in jail, I told them my name was Elizabeth, so maybe nobody realizes it was me. Nothing has shown up so far, except for the part about the jail's Grand Opening and another report the next night about the green ball of fire.
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#41 Post by tlynn78 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:21 pm

Estonut wrote:
TheConfessor wrote:
tlynn78 wrote: I've found that if one waits around a WalMart long enough, invariably a cop shows up. They usually have a slim jim they'll use for free.
This statement strikes me as more absurd than anything Bob has said. I can't imagine any cop around here doing that. It's not their job.
You'd have to bat your eyelashes at a special kind of cop...

There's that.

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#42 Post by littlebeast13 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:42 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
TheConfessor wrote:
tlynn78 wrote: I've found that if one waits around a WalMart long enough, invariably a cop shows up. They usually have a slim jim they'll use for free.
This statement strikes me as more absurd than anything Bob has said. I can't imagine any cop around here doing that. It's not their job.
Well, see, it was a joke, after a fashion.

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I thought maybe things were just different in Montana....

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#43 Post by tlynn78 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:45 pm

littlebeast13 wrote:
tlynn78 wrote:
TheConfessor wrote: This statement strikes me as more absurd than anything Bob has said. I can't imagine any cop around here doing that. It's not their job.
Well, see, it was a joke, after a fashion.

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I thought maybe things were just different in Montana....



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There's that, too.

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#44 Post by littlebeast13 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:40 pm

Soooooooo, now we know where those sordid details fit in..........

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#45 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:47 pm

littlebeast13 wrote:Soooooooo, now we know where those sordid details fit in..........

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Found it!

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#46 Post by littlebeast13 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:05 pm

Bob Juch wrote:
littlebeast13 wrote:Soooooooo, now we know where those sordid details fit in..........

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Found it!

And you got her hair the right color!

Do you expect me to believe that? :P

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#47 Post by SportsFan68 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:43 pm

Thank you for that Most Excellent splanation, Lizbit! So much more understandable when it's explained by a soldierdog.
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#48 Post by SportsFan68 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:48 pm

littlebeast13 wrote:Soooooooo, now we know where those sordid details fit in..........

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#49 Post by christie1111 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:05 pm

SportsFan68 wrote:Thank you for that Most Excellent splanation, Lizbit! So much more understandable when it's explained by a soldierdog.

What Sprots said!!

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