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John Schnatter, founder and CEO of Papa John's Pizza (and co-star with Peyton Manning in many commercials) has resigned from the company less than a day after he admitted using the N-word during a phone call with a PR firm that was designed to help the company improve its racial image. The incident occurred when he mentioned that Col. Sanders used the word but nobody ever criticized him for that. Schnatter also talked during the conference call about ways in which black people were lynched, which also offended some people on the call. The article appeared in Forbes online and Schnatter admitted using the slur and apologized. However, the resignation came later that day. Schnatter also resigned from the University of Louisville board of directors.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/na ... 777891002/

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John Schnatter, founder and CEO of Papa John's Pizza (and co-star with Peyton Manning in many commercials) has resigned from the company less than a day after he admitted using the N-word during a phone call with a PR firm that was designed to help the company improve its racial image. The incident occurred when he mentioned that Col. Sanders used the word but nobody ever criticized him for that. Schnatter also talked during the conference call about ways in which black people were lynched, which also offended some people on the call. The article appeared in Forbes online and Schnatter admitted using the slur and apologized. However, the resignation came later that day. Schnatter also resigned from the University of Louisville board of directors.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/na ... 777891002/

His name has been removed from a fieldhouse in Jeffersonville, IN (to which he donated $800,000 for renovations). He also resigned from the Board of Trustees for the University of Louisville. There is some consideration being given to removing his name from the university's football stadium (Papa John's Stadium).

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I don't have any issue with what is happening to him. His attitude and behavior are out of bounds with the day's standards.

PepsiCo, after purchasing KFC, had handlers assigned to Harlen Sanders to protect their brand. He apparently was quite the womanizer.

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There is some consideration being given to removing his name from the university's football stadium (Papa John's Stadium).


Apparently, the stadium issue is somewhat more complicated because the naming agreement is with Papa John personally and not the company

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And the national GOP withdrew its support of a New Jersey congressional candidate who has called diversity a bunch of crap, effectively conceding the election. Unlike racist candidates in other states, he was running to replace a retiring Republican congressman in a competitive district.


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I don't have any issue with what is happening to him. His attitude and behavior are out of bounds with the day's standards.

PepsiCo, after purchasing KFC, had handlers assigned to Harlen Sanders to protect their brand. He apparently was quite the womanizer.



Yeah, he DID seem to be rather fixated on breasts, legs and thighs.

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John Schnatter, founder and CEO of Papa John's Pizza (and co-star with Peyton Manning in many commercials) has resigned from the company less than a day after he admitted using the N-word during a phone call with a PR firm that was designed to help the company improve its racial image. The incident occurred when he mentioned that Col. Sanders used the word but nobody ever criticized him for that. Schnatter also talked during the conference call about ways in which black people were lynched, which also offended some people on the call. The article appeared in Forbes online and Schnatter admitted using the slur and apologized. However, the resignation came later that day. Schnatter also resigned from the University of Louisville board of directors.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/na ... 777891002/


I have read two articles on this and I am still somewhat unclear about the context in which he said these things. Was he trying to impart that Col. Sanders deserved to have suffered a backlash, or bemoaning the fact that Sanders could get away with it and companies these days can't. Undoubtedly the offense is in using the actual word rather than taking a more sensitive approach, but I do wonder about intent. Same with the comments about the horrors faced in a less enlightened time...not that we don't have farther to go in that regard today, but...The articles speculate he was trying to convey his distaste for the things he saw, but obviously it was a bad time to bring that up and not appropriate for the discussion at hand.

I don't know much about the guy, so I don't know if he has a reputation as an asshole or not. I would love to be able to actually hear the conversation to get a better feel for the tone and context of his words. It is one of the non-liberal things that don't mesh with my mostly liberal outlook that I feel that sometimes...just sometimes...there is a rush to judgement and punishment in order to not be perceived as politically incorrect. IF he was saying things with racist intent, he deserves was he's getting. If he was just guilty of putting his "well meaning" thoughts forth in an extremely ignorant manner, then by all means he should be called on it and educated on it but not necessarily crucified for it.

Hopefully more info about the tone of his words will come out.

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silverscreenselect wrote:
John Schnatter, founder and CEO of Papa John's Pizza (and co-star with Peyton Manning in many commercials) has resigned from the company less than a day after he admitted using the N-word during a phone call with a PR firm that was designed to help the company improve its racial image. The incident occurred when he mentioned that Col. Sanders used the word but nobody ever criticized him for that. Schnatter also talked during the conference call about ways in which black people were lynched, which also offended some people on the call. The article appeared in Forbes online and Schnatter admitted using the slur and apologized. However, the resignation came later that day. Schnatter also resigned from the University of Louisville board of directors.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/na ... 777891002/


I have read two articles on this and I am still somewhat unclear about the context in which he said these things. Was he trying to impart that Col. Sanders deserved to have suffered a backlash, or bemoaning the fact that Sanders could get away with it and companies these days can't. Undoubtedly the offense is in using the actual word rather than taking a more sensitive approach, but I do wonder about intent. Same with the comments about the horrors faced in a less enlightened time...not that we don't have farther to go in that regard today, but...The articles speculate he was trying to convey his distaste for the things he saw, but obviously it was a bad time to bring that up and not appropriate for the discussion at hand.

I don't know much about the guy, so I don't know if he has a reputation as an asshole or not. I would love to be able to actually hear the conversation to get a better feel for the tone and context of his words. It is one of the non-liberal things that don't mesh with my mostly liberal outlook that I feel that sometimes...just sometimes...there is a rush to judgement and punishment in order to not be perceived as politically incorrect. IF he was saying things with racist intent, he deserves was he's getting. If he was just guilty of putting his "well meaning" thoughts forth in an extremely ignorant manner, then by all means he should be called on it and educated on it but not necessarily crucified for it.

Hopefully more info about the tone of his words will come out.

The original Forbes article explains things better: https://www.forbes.com/sites/noahkirsch ... aefc9c4cfc

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T_Bone0806 wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
John Schnatter, founder and CEO of Papa John's Pizza (and co-star with Peyton Manning in many commercials) has resigned from the company less than a day after he admitted using the N-word during a phone call with a PR firm that was designed to help the company improve its racial image. The incident occurred when he mentioned that Col. Sanders used the word but nobody ever criticized him for that. Schnatter also talked during the conference call about ways in which black people were lynched, which also offended some people on the call. The article appeared in Forbes online and Schnatter admitted using the slur and apologized. However, the resignation came later that day. Schnatter also resigned from the University of Louisville board of directors.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/na ... 777891002/


I have read two articles on this and I am still somewhat unclear about the context in which he said these things. Was he trying to impart that Col. Sanders deserved to have suffered a backlash, or bemoaning the fact that Sanders could get away with it and companies these days can't. Undoubtedly the offense is in using the actual word rather than taking a more sensitive approach, but I do wonder about intent. Same with the comments about the horrors faced in a less enlightened time...not that we don't have farther to go in that regard today, but...The articles speculate he was trying to convey his distaste for the things he saw, but obviously it was a bad time to bring that up and not appropriate for the discussion at hand.

I don't know much about the guy, so I don't know if he has a reputation as an asshole or not. I would love to be able to actually hear the conversation to get a better feel for the tone and context of his words. It is one of the non-liberal things that don't mesh with my mostly liberal outlook that I feel that sometimes...just sometimes...there is a rush to judgement and punishment in order to not be perceived as politically incorrect. IF he was saying things with racist intent, he deserves was he's getting. If he was just guilty of putting his "well meaning" thoughts forth in an extremely ignorant manner, then by all means he should be called on it and educated on it but not necessarily crucified for it.

Hopefully more info about the tone of his words will come out.

While I agree with you I guess any ceo with a modicum of brain matter or non tone deafiness wouldn't even bring up what he did during a call. Very stupid and probably shareholdet scary.

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Part of the problem has to do with the fact that the conversation arose after Papa John's brought in the PR firm to help brush up the image after they got in the middle of the National Anthem controversy. This incident almost sounds like a Saturday Night Live skit about how clueless Papa John was (except you would probably hear some much less offensive terms used instead of the N-word).

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