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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:17 pm 
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No, this thread isn't about a recreational activity.

A wildfire started about 6:30 am, today, in rural Butte County, California. After eight hours, it had grown to 18,000 acres. After. Eight. Hours.

Hundreds of buildings, including a hospital, have burned in the town of Paradise. This article reports multiple deaths, although TV news hasn't confirmed any.

https://www.chicoer.com/2018/11/08/high ... er-canyon/

MarleysSister and MarleysBIL have evacuated, with their dog and a small bag of clothes, and are staying with friends in downtown Chico.

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No, this thread isn't about a recreational activity.

A wildfire started about 6:30 am, today, in rural Butte County, California. After eight hours, it had grown to 18,000 acres. After. Eight. Hours.

Hundreds of buildings, including a hospital, have burned in the town of Paradise. This article reports multiple deaths, although TV news hasn't confirmed any.

https://www.chicoer.com/2018/11/08/high ... er-canyon/

MarleysSister and MarleysBIL have evacuated, with their dog and a small bag of clothes, and are staying with friends in downtown Chico.

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My mother's mother grew up near there, in Gridley. :(

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Prayers go out (and up!) For Marley's sister, her husband, and their dog -- plus their neighbors and friends, and everyone in the area.

Those winds make the firefighters' job very difficult!

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I hope your family stays safe.

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Glad the people & the pup are OK. I hope for the best.


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Sending all the best possible wishes and many prayers to your sister and BIL, Markey.


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Thanks for all the good wishes.

A new update was just posted a few minutes ago. :(

https://www.chicoer.com/2018/11/09/camp ... ntainment/

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As the second day of the conflagration ended Friday, staggering new numbers were released: 6,453 homes, 260 commercial buildings and 90,000 acres burned. The fire is only 5 percent contained.


We still don't know if my sister's house is there any more or not. The map that Cal Fire posted earlier today showed the fire hadn't quite reached them yet, but was only about a quarter mile away. That's if the map was accurate in that sparsely populated area of the canyon...and if the fire hasn't expanded in their direction since then. It has definitely burnt down a lot of buildings between them and downtown.

Family is still safe, downtown. It may be a long while before they're allowed in to check out their property.


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What an awful situation. But at least your family members are safe. I hope their home is ok.

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One of my Toastmasters friends is frantic for her parents. They were under mandatory evacuation, and she's worried that the house burned to the ground.

I expect they'll be visiting here soon, or she'll be out there helping them however she can.

Here's hoping for the best for MarleysFamily and all families.

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I hope they are all right.

I also heard that the fire is threatening the same Thousand Oaks community that's still trying to deal with the aftermath of the mass shooting. That's horrible news all around.

I just hope everyone, including your relatives, gets through this all right.

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Nine deaths have been reported so far, apparently all in cars that were trying to escape. :cry:

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I also heard that the fire is threatening the same Thousand Oaks community that's still trying to deal with the aftermath of the mass shooting. That's horrible news all around.


Yes, those are the other two major fires, in southern California. They haven't caused as much damage, yet, but a lot more people there have been affected by the evacuation orders.

The Camp Fire is now up to 100,000 acres, 20% contained. The map hasn't been updated since yesterday morning, when it was only a fifth as large. Now they're worried about the winds picking up overnight. They says that could spread the fire southward and threaten the city of Oroville (which was in the news a couple years ago, when the Oroville Dam was in danger of collapsing).


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Now 23 confirmed fatalities. :(

109,000 acres, 25% contained. The winds weren't as strong last night as predicted, so that fire hasn't grown as much as people feared.

The Cal Fire map now shows that the fire has swept through my sister and brother-in-law's part of the canyon. Before she evacuated, my sister went around bringing in the cushions from the outside patio furniture, because part of fire safety is not leaving flammable material outside one's home. That time might have been better spent loading some essential items into her car. On the other hand, removing those potential fuel sources might have made the difference in letting the house and workshop survive the passing fire. We won't know until they're allowed to get back to the property.


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Now 23 confirmed fatalities. :(

109,000 acres, 25% contained. The winds weren't as strong last night as predicted, so that fire hasn't grown as much as people feared.

The Cal Fire map now shows that the fire has swept through my sister and brother-in-law's part of the canyon. Before she evacuated, my sister went around bringing in the cushions from the outside patio furniture, because part of fire safety is not leaving flammable material outside one's home. That time might have been better spent loading some essential items into her car. On the other hand, removing those potential fuel sources might have made the difference in letting the house and workshop survive the passing fire. We won't know until they're allowed to get back to the property.
How awful. I'm glad they're safe and I hope they didn't lose much in the way of belongings.

I've got friends who have been evacuated due to the Thousand Oaks fire, which is about 45 miles to my northwest. I also had a very smoky sky yesterday. --Bob

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Now 23 confirmed fatalities. :(

109,000 acres, 25% contained. The winds weren't as strong last night as predicted, so that fire hasn't grown as much as people feared.

The Cal Fire map now shows that the fire has swept through my sister and brother-in-law's part of the canyon. Before she evacuated, my sister went around bringing in the cushions from the outside patio furniture, because part of fire safety is not leaving flammable material outside one's home. That time might have been better spent loading some essential items into her car. On the other hand, removing those potential fuel sources might have made the difference in letting the house and workshop survive the passing fire. We won't know until they're allowed to get back to the property.
How awful. I'm glad they're safe and I hope they didn't lose much in the way of belongings.

I've got friends who have been evacuated due to the Thousand Oaks fire, which is about 45 miles to my northwest. I also had a very smoky sky yesterday. --Bob

There's a separate fire in Malibu as well. :cry:

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Now 23 confirmed fatalities. :(

109,000 acres, 25% contained. The winds weren't as strong last night as predicted, so that fire hasn't grown as much as people feared.

The Cal Fire map now shows that the fire has swept through my sister and brother-in-law's part of the canyon. Before she evacuated, my sister went around bringing in the cushions from the outside patio furniture, because part of fire safety is not leaving flammable material outside one's home. That time might have been better spent loading some essential items into her car. On the other hand, removing those potential fuel sources might have made the difference in letting the house and workshop survive the passing fire. We won't know until they're allowed to get back to the property.
How awful. I'm glad they're safe and I hope they didn't lose much in the way of belongings.

I've got friends who have been evacuated due to the Thousand Oaks fire, which is about 45 miles to my northwest. I also had a very smoky sky yesterday. --Bob

There's a separate fire in Malibu as well. :cry:
Thanks. I probably should have put two and two together, but I hadn't realized that was a separate fire.

I've got an idea (because I plagiarized it). If Donny can't bring himself to express sympathy for the victims instead of taking potshots at California's management of federal land, maybe he could send federal troops to help with relief and firefighting efforts. Maybe they could dig fire lines. I happen to know where there are several thousand federal troops right here in the states who aren't doing anything for the next month or so. --Bob

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Bob78164 wrote:
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How awful. I'm glad they're safe and I hope they didn't lose much in the way of belongings.

I've got friends who have been evacuated due to the Thousand Oaks fire, which is about 45 miles to my northwest. I also had a very smoky sky yesterday. --Bob

There's a separate fire in Malibu as well. :cry:
Thanks. I probably should have put two and two together, but I hadn't realized that was a separate fire.

I've got an idea (because I plagiarized it). If Donny can't bring himself to express sympathy for the victims instead of taking potshots at California's management of federal land, maybe he could send federal troops to help with relief and firefighting efforts. Maybe they could dig fire lines. I happen to know where there are several thousand federal troops right here in the states who aren't doing anything for the next month or so. --Bob

Pretty sure fed aid will be coming, but I agree with Trump's critics on his crappy comments. No different if remarks were made during hurricane flooding due to poor drainage management.

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How awful. I'm glad they're safe and I hope they didn't lose much in the way of belongings.

I've got friends who have been evacuated due to the Thousand Oaks fire, which is about 45 miles to my northwest. I also had a very smoky sky yesterday. --Bob

There's a separate fire in Malibu as well. :cry:
Thanks. I probably should have put two and two together, but I hadn't realized that was a separate fire.

I've got an idea (because I plagiarized it). If Donny can't bring himself to express sympathy for the victims instead of taking potshots at California's management of federal land, maybe he could send federal troops to help with relief and firefighting efforts. Maybe they could dig fire lines. I happen to know where there are several thousand federal troops right here in the states who aren't doing anything for the next month or so. --Bob

It's not California's management of federal land, it's the federal Forest Service's management of federal land that's the issue. Just cut down all the trees and they'll be no more fires.

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I'm angry at Trump's comments, too, but can we PLEASE put that discussion in a different thread?


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23 dead, 110 missing. :cry:

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Residents still aren't allowed back into the evacuation zone, but a firefighter was able to check out my sister and brother-in-law's property and give them a report and some pictures.

The house is gone. From the pictures, I can recognize the burnt-out remains of the washer and drier, the hot water tank, and the stove, but there's obviously not anything left that can be salvaged. :cry:

On the bright side, the shop (a prefab metal structure) looks fine. Even the shelf outside the door, holding flower pots and other bric-a-brac, looks undisturbed. If you didn't pay attention to the charred hillside behind the building and the smoke still in the air, you could look at that picture and not realize that it was in the middle of the disaster zone.

Besides my BIL's workshop and a rec room, that building has a full bath and a spare bedroom on the second floor. Once they're allowed back into the area, if they want to move back onto their property before a real rebuilding effort is arranged, it should be possible for them to occupy that space. In a lot more comfort that the folks now living in an unofficial tent city at the Chico Walmart have...


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Residents still aren't allowed back into the evacuation zone, but a firefighter was able to check out my sister and brother-in-law's property and give them a report and some pictures.

The house is gone. From the pictures, I can recognize the burnt-out remains of the washer and drier, the hot water tank, and the stove, but there's obviously not anything left that can be salvaged. :cry:

On the bright side, the shop (a prefab metal structure) looks fine. Even the shelf outside the door, holding flower pots and other bric-a-brac, looks undisturbed. If you didn't pay attention to the charred hillside behind the building and the smoke still in the air, you could look at that picture and not realize that it was in the middle of the disaster zone.

Besides my BIL's workshop and a rec room, that building has a full bath and a spare bedroom on the second floor. Once they're allowed back into the area, if they want to move back onto their property before a real rebuilding effort is arranged, it should be possible for them to occupy that space. In a lot more comfort that the folks now living in an unofficial tent city at the Chico Walmart have...

Wow - as horrible as it all is, they are somewhat 'lucky' in that sense.

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