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Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 3:36 pm
by silverscreenselect
The Wizard of Oz has to be Frank Oz, who was the voice of Yoda and Fozzie Bear. So, there should be a matchup with either a Star Wars or Muppets movie. That doesn't narrow things down much though.
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 3:43 pm
by mellytu74
Found a Don Ameche/Tyrone Power that could work.
However, that causes another problem …. sigh
A-19. DON AMECHE starred in Love Is News with B-15. Tyrone POWER. The other co-star is Loretta Young. But, we already have a Young.
A-28 MARGARET O’BRIEN starred in Journey for Margaret with B-19 Robert YOUNG and B-37 Laraine DAY
One possible solution is that the missing movie has a Garland or a Drake in the title to help us complete
A-28 MARGARET O’BRIEN starred in Meet Me in St Louis with B-40. Marjorie MAIN and XXXXXX
We don't NEED to use B-37. BAD DAY AT BLACK ROCK for a second use, since it's already used for Lewis Black.
Unless Marjorie Main and Tyrone Power were in a Don Ameche movie but I can't find it.
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 3:44 pm
by mellytu74
silverscreenselect wrote:The Wizard of Oz has to be Frank Oz, who was the voice of Yoda and Fozzie Bear. So, there should be a matchup with either a Star Wars or Muppets movie. That doesn't narrow things down much though.
I am pretty sure Steve Martin was in one of the Muppet movies, so there's the actor …. I agree it HAS to be Frank Oz.
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 3:52 pm
by franktangredi
silverscreenselect wrote:The Wizard of Oz has to be Frank Oz, who was the voice of Yoda and Fozzie Bear. So, there should be a matchup with either a Star Wars or Muppets movie. That doesn't narrow things down much though.
Somebody has already identified the movie Frank Oz is here for. You don't have to go looking for another one.
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 3:54 pm
by mellytu74
franktangredi wrote:silverscreenselect wrote:The Wizard of Oz has to be Frank Oz, who was the voice of Yoda and Fozzie Bear. So, there should be a matchup with either a Star Wars or Muppets movie. That doesn't narrow things down much though.
Somebody has already identified the movie Frank Oz is here for. You don't have to go looking for another one.
Then I am thinking he is here for INSIDE OUT and we can add him to the Amy Poehler string.
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 4:09 pm
by kroxquo
I think I've got it
A-19 DON AMECHE was in Ladies in Love with B-15 Tyrone POWER and B-79 Virginia FIELD
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 4:10 pm
by mellytu74
kroxquo wrote:I think I've got it
A-19 DON AMECHE was in Ladies in Love with B-15 Tyrone POWER and B-79 Virginia FIELD
Yeah, that'll work.
So, Journey for Margaret stays.
AND, we can still have a second use of Margaret O'Brien, if she matches up with Marjorie Main
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 4:37 pm
by franktangredi
I should never have done this one. There are too many alternates!
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 4:46 pm
by mellytu74
franktangredi wrote:I should never have done this one. There are too many alternates!
Oh, no, Frank!
I am having a blast.
AND I discovered Trail of the Lonesome Pine!
However, you could be a good guy and give us a hint on
B-62. This comedy about a hayseed who becomes a Hollywood star marked the screen debut of a veteran vaudevillian who was best known for his stage role as one of the main characters in the movie referenced in Clue B-1. Got that?
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 6:51 am
by franktangredi
mellytu74 wrote:franktangredi wrote:I should never have done this one. There are too many alternates!
Oh, no, Frank!
I am having a blast.
AND I discovered Trail of the Lonesome Pine!
However, you could be a good guy and give us a hint on
B-62. This comedy about a hayseed who becomes a Hollywood star marked the screen debut of a veteran vaudevillian who was best known for his stage role as one of the main characters in the movie referenced in Clue B-1. Got that?
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease
You were looking for the right actor. But I rechecked and, apparently, I made a major boo-boo. It was NOT his film debut.
Would you like me to give you a list of films that were mentioned that I did NOT intend?
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:31 am
by mellytu74
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 9:43 am
by mrkelley23
Don't feel attacked, Mel. I think Frank was just shifting gears and offering to show all the alternative matches we have come up with that he didn't intend. I have a feeling that would clue us in to what the Fred Stone movie is supposed to be.
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 11:16 am
by franktangredi
mrkelley23 wrote:
Don't feel attacked, Mel. I think Frank was just shifting gears and offering to show all the alternative matches we have come up with that he didn't intend. I have a feeling that would clue us in to what the Fred Stone movie is supposed to be.
Yes, I didn't mean that at all! I was just trying to be helpful! I'm sorry if it came across differently.
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 11:34 am
by mellytu74
franktangredi wrote:mrkelley23 wrote:
Don't feel attacked, Mel. I think Frank was just shifting gears and offering to show all the alternative matches we have come up with that he didn't intend. I have a feeling that would clue us in to what the Fred Stone movie is supposed to be.
Yes, I didn't mean that at all! I was just trying to be helpful! I'm sorry if it came across differently.
Oh my goodness!! I should have added some smileys!!
I did NOT feel attacked.
I was joking that we were having SO MUCH fun coming up with matches that we ran away with ourselves.
I mean, I KNOW we have a Marjorie Main match in here someplace!!
Unless it IS Dead End for Joel McCrea!
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 11:42 am
by mellytu74
B-62. This comedy about a hayseed who becomes a Hollywood star marked the screen debut of a veteran vaudevillian who was best known for his stage role as one of the main characters in the movie referenced in Clue B-1. Got that?
OK. This appears to be FARMER IN THE DELL
So, Frances Farmer. And Gabriel Dell.
Which leads me to believe the we're looking for Dead End for Joel McCrea because we've got Gabriel Dell and Marjorie Main.
That puts Porter Hall and Veronica Lake back with Sullivan's Travels.
Frances Farmer was in Son of Fury with Tyrone Power but off the top of my head I am not sure who the actor would be.
I probably shouldn't point out that Joel McCrea was in Come and Get It with Frances Farmer.
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 3:50 pm
by mellytu74
Guess what I didn't know?
I didn't know there was a movie called Wichita.
A-21 JOEL MCCREA starred in Wichita with B-27. Lloyd BRIDGES and B-58. Peter GRAVES
However, that only complicates Maggie Smith and Room with a View.
If we could somehow shift Julian Sands to Diana Sands and pair her with Beau Bridges in The Landlord. But, no actor. :O
I know, I know. I know.
And B-10. THREE SMART GIRLS.
Jean Smart? Amy Smart?
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:29 pm
by mellytu74
mrkelley23 wrote: I think Frank was just shifting gears and offering to show all the alternative matches we have come up with that he didn't intend. I have a feeling that would clue us in to what the Fred Stone movie is supposed to be.
You know, Frank, I think we would like to see it. I know I would, anyway.
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:40 pm
by mellytu74
Ok - I think I have an answer...
Forget Wichita. Forget Sullivan’s Travels.
Joel McCrea was in Ramrod with Veronica Lake and Lloyd Bridges.
That makes it Joel McCrea in Dead End with Marjorie Main, Huntz Hall AND Gabriel Dell.
There’s no Margaret O’Brien/Marjorie Main movie. Just Journey for Margaret
Rupert Graves stays safely with Maggie Smith.
Still don’t have a place for Frances Farmer.
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 9:24 am
by mrkelley23
To complicate things further:
A-19 Don Ameche starred in HOMEWARD BOUND as the voice of Shadow, and the other two animals' voices were by B-79 Sally FIELD and B-22 Michael J. FOX. I think this makes a cleaner match than the Tyrone Power movie, although there's no rule saying we couldn't use both.
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 9:28 am
by franktangredi
mrkelley23 wrote:To complicate things further:
A-19 Don Ameche starred in HOMEWARD BOUND as the voice of Shadow, and the other two animals' voices were by B-79 Sally FIELD and B-22 Michael J. FOX. I think this makes a cleaner match than the Tyrone Power movie, although there's no rule saying we couldn't use both.
You might want to look even further into the cast list, too.
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 9:43 am
by mrkelley23
franktangredi wrote:mrkelley23 wrote:To complicate things further:
A-19 Don Ameche starred in HOMEWARD BOUND as the voice of Shadow, and the other two animals' voices were by B-79 Sally FIELD and B-22 Michael J. FOX. I think this makes a cleaner match than the Tyrone Power movie, although there's no rule saying we couldn't use both.
You might want to look even further into the cast list, too.
That's right! JEAN SMART was the relative? neighbor? who was taking care of the animals when they escaped!
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 10:38 am
by jarnon
Updating the consolidation to verify that everything’s been covered…
Tangredi: Actor from List A starred in a movie with actors whose last names appear in the titles in List B
A-12 HOWARD KEEL starred in Show Boat with B-12 Joe E BROWN and B-65 Marge and Gower CHAMPION
A-3 BRAD PITT starred in Money Ball with B-77 Jonah HILL, B-32 Stanley BISHOP, and B-11 Reed DIAMOND
A-11 CARY ELWES starred in The Princess Bride with B-41 Billy CRYSTAL, B-52 Fred SAVAGE, B-20 Christopher GUEST and B-67 Peter COOK
A-23 STEVE MARTIN starred in Three Amigos with B-7 Martin SHORT and B-47 Chevy CHASE
A-4 ZERO MOSTEL starred in The Producers with B-72 Gene WILDER and B-35 Kenneth MARS
A-17 WALTER MATTHAU starred in A New Leaf with B-59 Elaine MAY and B-73 George ROSE
A-33 PAUL NEWMAN starred in Sweet Bird of Youth with B-63 Geraldine PAGE, B-21 Shirley KNIGHT and B-38 Rip TORN
A-10 GALE SONDERGAARD starred in Anthony Adverse with B-13 Donald WOODS, B-28 Frederic MARCH and B-42 Claude RAINS
A-8 LIZA MINNELLI starred in Cabaret with B-48 Michael YORK and B-56 Joel GREY
A-25 TOM HANKS starred in Big with B-76 David MOSCOW and B-18 John HEARD
A-9 KEVIN KLINE starred in The Big Chill with B-3 William HURT, B-69 Glenn CLOSE and B-46 Mary Kay PLACE
A-16 CARL REINER starred in The Russians Are Coming! The Russians Are Coming! with B-48 Eva Marie SAINT, B-78 John Phillip LAW and B-24 Ben BLUE
A-7 AMY POEHLER starred in Inside Out with B-37 Lewis BLACK, B-51 Diane LANE and B-1 Frank OZ
A-26 MARGARET HAMILTON starred in My Little Chickadee with B-8 Mae WEST and B-55 W. C. FIELDS
A-31 RENEE ZELLWEGER starred in Jerry Maguire with B-57 Tom CRUISE and B-75 Bonnie HUNT
A-13 JIM CARREY starred in Dumb and Dumber with B-26 Charles ROCKET and B-66 Lauren HOLLY
A-24 JULIE HARRIS starred in Member of the Wedding with B-36 Ethel WATERS and B-6 Nancy GATES
A-30 ZACHARY QUINTO starred in Stark Trek with B-23 Karl URBAN, B-68 Ben CROSS and B-44 Chris PINE
A-28 MARGARET O’BRIEN starred in Journey for Margaret with B-19 Robert YOUNG and B-37 Laraine DAY
A-1 JOHN WAYNE starred in The Searchers with B-70 Vera MILES, B-64 Natalie WOOD and B-9 Jeffrey HUNTER
A-6 BRUCE CABOT starred in Fancy Pants with B-29 Bob HOPE and B-49 Lucille BALL
A-27. JOHNNY DEPP starred in Cry-Baby with B-60 Tracy LORDS and B-50 Iggy POP
A-29 CHER starred in Moonstruck with B-2 Nicolas CAGE and B-24 Vincent GARDENIA
A-18 FARLEY GRANGER starred in Strangers on a Train with B-45 Ruth ROMAN and B-16 Robert WALKER
A-5. MAGGIE SMITH starred in A Room with a View with B-4 Julian SANDS and B-58 Rupert GRAVES
A-22 JOHN LITHGOW starred in Footloose with B-33 Lori SINGER and B-71 Kevin BACON
A-27 JOHNNY DEPP starred in Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl with B-54 Orlando BLOOM and B-80 Geoffrey RUSH
A-14 LOUIS ARMSTRONG starred in New Orleans with B-5 Irene RICH, B-55 Marjorie LORD and B-45 Billie HOLIDAY
A-20 MIRANDA RICHARDSON starred in The Phantom of the Opera with B-53 Minnie DRIVER and B-14 Gerard BUTLER
A-32 RYAN GOSLING starred in La La Land with B-25 Emma STONE and B-23 John LEGEND
A-2 BETTE MIDLER starred in Outrageous Fortune with B-39 Shelly LONG and B-43 Peter COYOTE
A-5 MAGGIE SMITH starred in Gosford Park with B-30 Charles DANCE and B-74 Stephen FRY
A-15 PETER LORRE starred in The Raven with B-61 Vincent PRICE and B-34 Hazel COURT
A-19 DON AMECHE was in Ladies in Love with B-15 Tyrone POWER and B-79 Virginia FIELD
A-21 JOEL McCREA starred in Ramrod with B-31 Veronica LAKE and B-27 Lloyd BRIDGES
A-21 JOEL McCREA starred in Dead End with B-40 Marjorie MAIN, B-17 Huntz HALL and B-62 Gabriel DELL
A-19 DON AMECHE starred in Homeward Bound with B-22 Michael J. FOX and B-10 Jean SMART
LIST A: ACTORS
*A-1. JOHN WAYNE
*A-2. BETTE MIDLER
*A-3. BRAD PITT
*A-4. ZERO MOSTEL
**A-5. MAGGIE SMITH
*A-6. BRUCE CABOT
*A-7. AMY POEHLER
*A-8. LIZA MINNELLI
*A-9. KEVIN KLINE
*A-10. GALE SONDERGAARD
*A-11. CARY ELWES
*A-12. HOWARD KEEL
*A-13. JIM CARREY
*A-14. LOUIS ARMSTRONG
*A-15. PETER LORRE
*A-16. CARL REINER
*A-17. WALTER MATTHAU
*A-18. FARLEY GRANGER
**A-19. DON AMECHE
*A-20. MIRANDA RICHARDSON
**A-21. JOEL McCREA
*A-22. JOHN LITHGOW
*A-23. STEVE MARTIN
*A-24. JULIE HARRIS
*A-25. TOM HANKS
*A-26. MARGARET HAMILTON
**A-27. JOHNNY DEPP
*A-28. MARGARET O’BRIEN
*A-29. CHER
*A-30. ZACHARY QUINTO
*A-31. RENEE ZELLWEGER
*A-32. RYAN GOSLING
*A-33. PAUL NEWMAN
LIST B: MOVIES
*B-1. THE WIZARD OF OZ
*B-2. LA CAGE AUX FOLLES
*B-3. THE HURT LOCKER
*B-4. THE SANDS OF IWO JIMA
*B-5. CRAZY RICH ASIANS
*B-6. GATES OF HEAVEN
*B-7. THE BIG SHORT
*B-8. ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST
*B-9. NIGHT OF THE HUNTER
*B-10. THREE SMART GIRLS
*B-11. BLOOD DIAMOND
*B-12. BROWN BUNNY
*B-13. CABIN IN THE WOODS
*B-14. THE BUTLER
*B-15. THE POWER OF ONE
*B-16. THE NIGHT WALKER
*B-17. HALL PASS
*B-18. I’VE HEARD THE MERMAIDS SINGING
*B-19. YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN
*B-20. A GUEST IN THE HOUSE
*B-21. THE DARK KNIGHT
*B-22. THE FOX AND THE HOUND
**B-23. URBAN LEGEND
**B-24. THE BLUE GARDENIA
*B-25. ROMANCING THE STONE
*B-26. BOTTLE ROCKET
*B-27. BRIDGES OF MADISON COUNTY
*B-28. THE WEDDING MARCH
*B-29. HOPE AND GLORY
*B-30. SHALL WE DANCE
*B-31. LAKE PLACID
*B-32. THE BISHOP MISBEHAVES
*B-33. THE WEDDING SINGER
*B-34. A CONNECTICUT YANKEE IN KING ARTHUR'S COURT
*B-35. MARS ATTACKS
*B-36. DARK WATERS
**B-37. BAD DAY AT BLACK ROCK
*B-38. TORN CURTAIN
*B-39. THE LONELINESS OF THE LONG DISTANCE RUNNER
*B-40. THE SHOP ON MAIN STREET
*B-41. THE DARK CRYSTAL
*B-42. THE RAINS CAME
*B-43. COYOTE UGLY
*B-44. TRAIL OF THE LONESOME PINE
**B-45. ROMAN HOLIDAY
*B-46. A QUIET PLACE
*B-47. THE PAPER CHASE
**B-48. THE SAINT IN NEW YORK
*B-49. MONSTER'S BALL
*B-50. MONTERREY POP
*B-51. 10 CLOVERFIELD LANE
*B-52. SAVAGE SAM
*B-53. TAXI DRIVER
*B-54. LOVE IN BLOOM
**B-55. AT PLAY IN THE FIELDS OF THE LORD
*B-56. GREY GARDENS
*B-57. SPEED 2: CRUISE CONTROL
*B-58. FIVE GRAVES TO CAIRO
*B-59. SEVEN DAYS IN MAY
*B-60. THE LORDS OF FLATBUSH
*B-61. WHAT PRICE GLORY
*B-62. FARMER IN THE DELL
*B-63. THE FRONT PAGE
*B-64. KNOCK ON WOOD
*B-65. CHAMPION
*B-66. THE HOLLY AND THE IVY
*B-67. THE COOK, THE THIEF, HIS WIFE AND HER LOVER
*B-68. THE SIGN OF THE CROSS
*B-69. CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND
*B-70. 3000 MILES TO GRACELAND
*B-71. CANADIAN BACON
*B-72. THESE WILDER YEARS
*B-73. PURPLE ROSE OF CAIRO
*B-74. SMALL FRY
*B-75. THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER
*B-76.MISSION TO MOSCOW
*B-77. NOTTING HILL
*B-78. DOWN BY LAW
*B-79. FIELD OF DREAMS
*B-80. THE GOLD RUSH
That’s 37 matches, not 36, but I hope Frank will accept it.
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 10:46 am
by mellytu74
Yea!!! Yea!!!
I loved this puzzle!!!
I really do want to see Professor Tangredi's answer key on this one.
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 11:05 am
by franktangredi
mellytu74 wrote:Yea!!! Yea!!!
I loved this puzzle!!!
I really do want to see Professor Tangredi's answer key on this one.
As you wish!
Here are matches I had that you didn't.
Richard KIND (B-69. Close Encounters of the Third Kind, second usage) was also in Inside Out
A-10. Gale Sondergaard in The Mark of Zorro with Tyrone POWER (B-15) and Montagu LOVE (B-54. Love in Bloom, second usage)
Ricki LAKE (B-31) was also in Cry-Baby
Beau BRIDGES (B-27) and Regina KING (B-34. A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court, second usage) were also in Jerry Maguire
Here are the matches you had that I didn't.
Ladies in Love
Ramrod
I have a general knowledge game ready to post for Monday!
Re: Game #189: All-Star Cast
Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 11:20 am
by jarnon
Thanks for a fun game as always. I couldn't help much, but I hope to do more in the next one.