Under the influence and protection of a morphine drip, Annie managed to stand up and take a few steps this morning. I just got back from visiting her, and she was upright again. The vet says that there's no promise, but a possibility that she may be able to come home, along with a morphine patch to help control pain, as early as tomorrow afternoon.
We'll investigate rehab for her drug problem as needed.
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I didn't know that, and I'm glad to hear it. (I will knock on wood right here, but I've never had any kind of injury that required heavy-duty pain drugs. I don't have any basis of comparison about what's most effective and how long anything can be taken before there's a risk of dependency.)ghostjmf wrote: (They say medical-reason morphiners rarely get addicted, among people that is, by the way.)
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Re: Annie the Upright
If I might, I would suggest that morphine is far overrated for its effects-- I strongly recommend catnip: after a 'nip blunt or three, even if something hurts, YOU WON'T CARE. And I know catnip's not addictive, because I could quit any time.silvercamaro wrote:Under the influence and protection of a morphine drip, Annie managed to stand up and take a few steps this morning. I just got back from visiting her, and she was upright again. The vet says that there's no promise, but a possibility that she may be able to come home, along with a morphine patch to help control pain, as early as tomorrow afternoon.
We'll investigate rehab for her drug problem as needed.
And I bet that the problem was caused by a squirrel, probably that jackass who jumps up on my window and shakes his tail at me (I haven't seen him for a few days, and it would be just like him to go out to Oklahoma, wherever that is, and start terrorizing dogs).
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Re: Annie the Upright
silvercamaro wrote:Under the influence and protection of a morphine drip, Annie managed to stand up and take a few steps this morning. I just got back from visiting her, and she was upright again.
We'll investigate rehab for her drug problem as needed.
Yay! Upright is good.
As for doggie rehab, I have an aunt who has wondered about such things. She is a bonafide dog lover. 4'11" and been breeding & showing St Bernards longer than I've been breathing. She had one a few years back who had some serious knee problems, requiring surgery. But he was so big that it could never heal properly - so they did a second surgery and decided to keep him sedated for a few weeks to keep him off the leg. He was never the same afterward...easily startled, aggressive, moody, etc. She did everything she could to re-socialize him, hoping that time would bring back the happy dog she'd had before - but 4 years or so later, she ended up putting him down. It was devastating for her, but even her husband couldn't get near him. It had been decades since they'd been without a dog (or 5), but it took her a few years after that to start to consider getting another one. But of course his was an extreme case. She still questions the vets' call to keep him sedated for so long, but said there was really no other good option.
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PAFBoy and I agreed you only want to take Vicodin when something hurts. If nothing hurts and you take it, you just feel ick. I had some when I had my tonsils out - at least the jokers were nice enough to make it liquid instead of pills, but it is very nasty-tasting liquid, which may help prevent addiction also.silvercamaro wrote:I didn't know that, and I'm glad to hear it. (I will knock on wood right here, but I've never had any kind of injury that required heavy-duty pain drugs. I don't have any basis of comparison about what's most effective and how long anything can be taken before there's a risk of dependency.)ghostjmf wrote: (They say medical-reason morphiners rarely get addicted, among people that is, by the way.)
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When my brother had his spleen out, he lied about how much pain he was in after the surgery so they'd give him less morphine -- he was terrified of addiction and probably suffered needlessly. I don't think he would have become addicted. The docs probably knew he was lying but respected his wishes. They probably saw it the other way around in most other Viet vets, and I'm sure they respected those wishes too.ghostjmf wrote:Way to go Annie Girl. Enjoy those drugs while you can!
(They say medical-reason morphiners rarely get addicted, among people that is, by the way.)
I think Annie will be fine -- I know she's just as tough if not tougher than my brother.
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Annie has given me impossibly high standards for dealing with adversity. I have had the thought that if I lost a leg in an accident, I'd have to say, "No big deal, really. I have another one."SportsFan68 wrote:
When my brother had his spleen out, he lied about how much pain he was in after the surgery so they'd give him less morphine -- he was terrified of addiction and probably suffered needlessly. I don't think he would have become addicted. The docs probably knew he was lying but respected his wishes. They probably saw it the other way around in most other Viet vets, and I'm sure they respected those wishes too.
I think Annie will be fine -- I know she's just as tough if not tougher than my brother.
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Re: Annie the Upright
Yes! Morphine is a good thing!silvercamaro wrote:Under the influence and protection of a morphine drip, Annie managed to stand up and take a few steps this morning. I just got back from visiting her, and she was upright again. The vet says that there's no promise, but a possibility that she may be able to come home, along with a morphine patch to help control pain, as early as tomorrow afternoon.
We'll investigate rehab for her drug problem as needed.
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sc, Thank goodness your girl is getting better!
Annie is some tough cookie...
When you can, please administer many scritches to Miss Annie from me!
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serious discussion here about addiction: Everything I've ever read about it says the % of people who trace their addiction to opiates to a stay in the hospital where they were given some for physical pain is very, very low. Its not non-existent, but surprisingly low, especially to theorists who had theorized that it would be otherwise.
A lot of people needlessly refuse medication that would ease their pain because of fear of such addiction. On the other hand, people who have used these drugs previously as recreation know their own attraction to them & would refuse them out of genuine fear of waking up the old habit; post-surgery doctors probably can't sort these people out (at least not the ones who aren't covered with needle scars), unless told directly by the people.
One big issue in the "care for the terminally ill" field is doctors' insistence that they not give people in terrible physical pain enough opiates for fear they'll get addicted; the response from the patients & their relatives themselves is "so what if they do get addicted; they're dying, for pity's sake". (Just to spell it out, they're not going to be on the street 4 years later knocking over drugstores for their fix. And probably neither is Annie, for completely different "hard to hold the gun in a paw" sort of reasons.)
A lot of people needlessly refuse medication that would ease their pain because of fear of such addiction. On the other hand, people who have used these drugs previously as recreation know their own attraction to them & would refuse them out of genuine fear of waking up the old habit; post-surgery doctors probably can't sort these people out (at least not the ones who aren't covered with needle scars), unless told directly by the people.
One big issue in the "care for the terminally ill" field is doctors' insistence that they not give people in terrible physical pain enough opiates for fear they'll get addicted; the response from the patients & their relatives themselves is "so what if they do get addicted; they're dying, for pity's sake". (Just to spell it out, they're not going to be on the street 4 years later knocking over drugstores for their fix. And probably neither is Annie, for completely different "hard to hold the gun in a paw" sort of reasons.)