Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
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Yesterday's fascinating brush with death
So I was eating lunch & my throat swelled up.
I have a few food intolerances; these I am told are strictly speaking not allergies, as they don't involve the immune system; they involve my for whatever reason not having the enzymes to digest stuff which builds up & doesn't agree with me, as in "bathroom for hours".
OK, this was not that. This was "throat swells up". Definitely an immune response, from the description. I could breath all the while, but while I didn't feel at all nauseated, could not swallow, & felt like I was on autopilot to "antiswallow". And the food in question, while somewhat exotic to mid-USA, is something they eat lots of in other parts of the world, certainly something I've eaten varieties of before, &, worse, yet, is very closely related to a USA food staple I've been eating all my life, & really like. Well, but not fried, like this relative usually is when served at street fairs & such.
I have a few food intolerances; these I am told are strictly speaking not allergies, as they don't involve the immune system; they involve my for whatever reason not having the enzymes to digest stuff which builds up & doesn't agree with me, as in "bathroom for hours".
OK, this was not that. This was "throat swells up". Definitely an immune response, from the description. I could breath all the while, but while I didn't feel at all nauseated, could not swallow, & felt like I was on autopilot to "antiswallow". And the food in question, while somewhat exotic to mid-USA, is something they eat lots of in other parts of the world, certainly something I've eaten varieties of before, &, worse, yet, is very closely related to a USA food staple I've been eating all my life, & really like. Well, but not fried, like this relative usually is when served at street fairs & such.
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Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
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Yikes! Sounds scary. I'm glad you're okay. --Bobghostjmf wrote:So I was eating lunch & my throat swelled up.
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This is the internet. Dangerous people out there.
I don't eat "cookies from the mail" as a general rule, but just in case I was tricked into eating some from you, I sure wouldn't want to tell you & your ilk what to be putting in there, would I.Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
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My doctor wouldn't prescribe an epi-pen for another allergy I have that definitely is an allergy, & has made other body parts swell in the past, but never my throat. They said "we can't prescribe epi-pens unless your throat swells up". I did tell them that when it did, it would probably be too late for me to tell them. Well, this is an entirely different source, but I think I should be getting the epi-pen for this.
Thanks. I calmed down as soon as I realized I could still breath.Yikes! Sounds scary. I'm glad you're okay.
My doctor wouldn't prescribe an epi-pen for another allergy I have that definitely is an allergy, & has made other body parts swell in the past, but never my throat. They said "we can't prescribe epi-pens unless your throat swells up". I did tell them that when it did, it would probably be too late for me to tell them. Well, this is an entirely different source, but I think I should be getting the epi-pen for this.
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Yes, you should. What's the food, if you don't mind saying?ghostjmf wrote:Bob78164 says:
Thanks. I calmed down as soon as I realized I could still breath.Yikes! Sounds scary. I'm glad you're okay.
My doctor wouldn't prescribe an epi-pen for another allergy I have that definitely is an allergy, & has made other body parts swell in the past, but never my throat. They said "we can't prescribe epi-pens unless your throat swells up". I did tell them that when it did, it would probably be too late for me to tell them. Well, this is an entirely different source, but I think I should be getting the epi-pen for this.
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I know I haven't been on the bored in a while, but I am curious, when did sunflower start poisoning people?ghostjmf wrote:sunflower:
I don't eat "cookies from the mail" as a general rule, but just in case I was tricked into eating some from you, I sure wouldn't want to tell you & your ilk what to be putting in there, would I.Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
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Not at all. It made perfect sense to me.sunflower wrote:Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
Maybe you haven't read enough of CrypticNameDropper's posts to understand them yet.
PS In all seriousness, ghost, glad you are OK.
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Well, she does whack avatars with a baseball bat...PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:I know I haven't been on the bored in a while, but I am curious, when did sunflower start poisoning people?ghostjmf wrote:sunflower:
I don't eat "cookies from the mail" as a general rule, but just in case I was tricked into eating some from you, I sure wouldn't want to tell you & your ilk what to be putting in there, would I.Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
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You should be jumping up and down and insisting that you get one. Hope you never have to use it and have one just in case.SportsFan68 wrote:Yes, you should. What's the food, if you don't mind saying?ghostjmf wrote:Bob78164 says:
Thanks. I calmed down as soon as I realized I could still breath.Yikes! Sounds scary. I'm glad you're okay.
My doctor wouldn't prescribe an epi-pen for another allergy I have that definitely is an allergy, & has made other body parts swell in the past, but never my throat. They said "we can't prescribe epi-pens unless your throat swells up". I did tell them that when it did, it would probably be too late for me to tell them. Well, this is an entirely different source, but I think I should be getting the epi-pen for this.
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Well, now that you are (thankfully) recovered from it, may we ask, is this a 'chronic' or an 'acute' problem?ghostjmf wrote:So I was eating lunch & my throat swelled up.
I have a few food intolerances; these I am told are strictly speaking not allergies, as they don't involve the immune system; they involve my for whatever reason not having the enzymes to digest stuff which builds up & doesn't agree with me, as in "bathroom for hours".
OK, this was not that. This was "throat swells up". Definitely an immune response, from the description. I could breath all the while, but while I didn't feel at all nauseated, could not swallow, & felt like I was on autopilot to "antiswallow". And the food in question, while somewhat exotic to mid-USA, is something they eat lots of in other parts of the world, certainly something I've eaten varieties of before, &, worse, yet, is very closely related to a USA food staple I've been eating all my life, & really like. Well, but not fried, like this relative usually is when served at street fairs & such.
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PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:I know I haven't been on the bored in a while, but I am curious, when did sunflower start poisoning people?ghostjmf wrote:sunflower:
I don't eat "cookies from the mail" as a general rule, but just in case I was tricked into eating some from you, I sure wouldn't want to tell you & your ilk what to be putting in there, would I.Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
It's just one small step removed from feeding "special peanut butter" to squirrels......


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wintergreen48 wrote:Well, now that you are (thankfully) recovered from it, may we ask, is this a 'chronic' or an 'acute' problem?ghostjmf wrote:So I was eating lunch & my throat swelled up.
I have a few food intolerances; these I am told are strictly speaking not allergies, as they don't involve the immune system; they involve my for whatever reason not having the enzymes to digest stuff which builds up & doesn't agree with me, as in "bathroom for hours".
OK, this was not that. This was "throat swells up". Definitely an immune response, from the description. I could breath all the while, but while I didn't feel at all nauseated, could not swallow, & felt like I was on autopilot to "antiswallow". And the food in question, while somewhat exotic to mid-USA, is something they eat lots of in other parts of the world, certainly something I've eaten varieties of before, &, worse, yet, is very closely related to a USA food staple I've been eating all my life, & really like. Well, but not fried, like this relative usually is when served at street fairs & such.
My problem is chronic.....
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Not sure what this has to do with anything, but don't worry, I'll never make you any cookies. So my "ilk" and I (or is it me and my ilk?) can put whatever we want in them, I guess. That should clear that up.ghostjmf wrote:sunflower:
I don't eat "cookies from the mail" as a general rule, but just in case I was tricked into eating some from you, I sure wouldn't want to tell you & your ilk what to be putting in there, would I.Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
This is the internet. Dangerous people out there.

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News to me, too...but I guess you should be careful if I ever send you cookies...dangerous people out there, and all...PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:I know I haven't been on the bored in a while, but I am curious, when did sunflower start poisoning people?ghostjmf wrote:sunflower:
I don't eat "cookies from the mail" as a general rule, but just in case I was tricked into eating some from you, I sure wouldn't want to tell you & your ilk what to be putting in there, would I.Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
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sunflower wrote:News to me, too...but I guess you should be careful if I ever send you cookies...dangerous people out there, and all...PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:I know I haven't been on the bored in a while, but I am curious, when did sunflower start poisoning people?ghostjmf wrote:sunflower:
I don't eat "cookies from the mail" as a general rule, but just in case I was tricked into eating some from you, I sure wouldn't want to tell you & your ilk what to be putting in there, would I.
I'll take my chances.....
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What's the food then? Or even the closely related USA food staple?Jeemie wrote:Not at all. It made perfect sense to me.sunflower wrote:Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
Maybe you haven't read enough of CrypticNameDropper's posts to understand them yet.
PS In all seriousness, ghost, glad you are OK.
Oh, and since when is Boston mid-USA?
I think my confusion is at least sort of understandable...
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sunflower wrote:What's the food then? Or even the closely related USA food staple?Jeemie wrote:Not at all. It made perfect sense to me.sunflower wrote:Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
Maybe you haven't read enough of CrypticNameDropper's posts to understand them yet.
PS In all seriousness, ghost, glad you are OK.
Oh, and since when is Boston mid-USA?
I think my confusion is at least sort of understandable...
I think she was having flashbacks to her days in Hometown, Ohio....
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That's not how I understand ghost's post. I think she's saying that in light of the enmity between her and sunflower, she wouldn't be offering cooking advice because she'd never partake of sunflower's offerings, and if she did so inadvertently, she wouldn't critique the recipe. By analogy, it's a surprise to ghost that sunflower is reading ghost's posts, much less offering advice on how to present her thoughts. --BobPlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:I know I haven't been on the bored in a while, but I am curious, when did sunflower start poisoning people?ghostjmf wrote:sunflower:
I don't eat "cookies from the mail" as a general rule, but just in case I was tricked into eating some from you, I sure wouldn't want to tell you & your ilk what to be putting in there, would I.Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
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I actually didn't offer any advice, I just made an observation.Bob78164 wrote:That's not how I understand ghost's post. I think she's saying that in light of the enmity between her and sunflower, she wouldn't be offering cooking advice because she'd never partake of sunflower's offerings, and if she did so inadvertently, she wouldn't critique the recipe. By analogy, it's a surprise to ghost that sunflower is reading ghost's posts, much less offering advice on how to present her thoughts. --BobPlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:I know I haven't been on the bored in a while, but I am curious, when did sunflower start poisoning people?ghostjmf wrote:sunflower:
I don't eat "cookies from the mail" as a general rule, but just in case I was tricked into eating some from you, I sure wouldn't want to tell you & your ilk what to be putting in there, would I.
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Bob78164 wrote:That's not how I understand ghost's post. I think she's saying that in light of the enmity between her and sunflower, she wouldn't be offering cooking advice because she'd never partake of sunflower's offerings, and if she did so inadvertently, she wouldn't critique the recipe. By analogy, it's a surprise to ghost that sunflower is reading ghost's posts, much less offering advice on how to present her thoughts. --BobPlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:I know I haven't been on the bored in a while, but I am curious, when did sunflower start poisoning people?ghostjmf wrote:sunflower:
I don't eat "cookies from the mail" as a general rule, but just in case I was tricked into eating some from you, I sure wouldn't want to tell you & your ilk what to be putting in there, would I.
No, seems pretty clear that what she is saying is that she would generally avoid eating internet cookies (ha ha, kind of an internet joke, you know, 'cookies') (oh, I kill myself sometimes) (now where was I... oh, yes), she would not generally eat cookies in the mail, but since she might accidentally eat some cookies that she receives in the mail, she will not tell Sunflower what it is that makes her throat close up, because Sunflower and her ilk would put 'whatever it is' into the cookies that ghost might accidentally eat, and she would get all choked up, but not in a good way, and it might become acute or chronic or something.
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You just need to ignore that stuff.sunflower wrote:What's the food then? Or even the closely related USA food staple?Jeemie wrote:Not at all. It made perfect sense to me.sunflower wrote:Fascinating, indeed. Impossible to make sense of, but fascinating...
Maybe you haven't read enough of CrypticNameDropper's posts to understand them yet.
PS In all seriousness, ghost, glad you are OK.
Oh, and since when is Boston mid-USA?
I think my confusion is at least sort of understandable...
She ate something. Her throat swelled up. She worried she would suffocate, but she never stopped breathing.
Eventually her swelling went down, and now she's looking to get an epi-pen in case it happens again...because the doctors wouldn't give her one until her throat ever swelled up (and luckily, waiting for that to happen wasn't "too late" for her).
Where she lives and what she ate are irrelevant to what she wanted to communicate, and dangerous to send out over the Web anyway.
How hard is that to understand?

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In this case, it would be "My 'ilk' and I can put whatever ..."sunflower wrote:So my "ilk" and I (or is it me and my ilk?) can put whatever we want in them, I guess.
Courtesy dictates that you put yourself second in that clause.
Grammar dictates that you think of the sentence without the other party when deciding whether to use "and I" or "and me."
For example:
Fanny and I chatted with lb13 last night.
NOT "Fanny and me chatted with lb13 last night."
lb13 flirted with Fanny and me.
NOT "lb13 flirted with Fanny and I."
And I've now broken a ghostrule-for-everyone-but-ghost by dragging the 3 of them into this.
A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five.
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Thanks...I knew the regular grammar rules, I just wondered if "ilk" had special grammar rules, it seemed like one of those words that just might...Estonut wrote:In this case, it would be "My 'ilk' and I can put whatever ..."sunflower wrote:So my "ilk" and I (or is it me and my ilk?) can put whatever we want in them, I guess.
Courtesy dictates that you put yourself second in that clause.
Grammar dictates that you think of the sentence without the other party when deciding whether to use "and I" or "and me."
For example:
Fanny and I chatted with lb13 last night.
NOT "Fanny and me chatted with lb13 last night."
lb13 flirted with Fanny and me.
NOT "lb13 flirted with Fanny and I."
And I've now broken a ghostrule-for-everyone-but-ghost by dragging the 3 of them into this.
And those were great examples!! LOL...

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I believe "My ilk" can be contracted (contractioned?) to M'ilk...sunflower wrote:I just wondered if "ilk" had special grammar rules
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