welcome ununquadium and ununhexium
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welcome ununquadium and ununhexium
nThe IUPAC (International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry) has officially recognized the discovery of elements 114 (unumquadium) and 116 (unumhexium). Their official names will be flerovium (for Russian nuclear physicist Georgy Flyorov - sometimes spelled Florov) and muscovium (named for Moscow Oblast [administrative district]).
Fixed - thanks smilergrogan.
Fixed - thanks smilergrogan.
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Re: welcome unumquadium and unumhexium
I remember when there were only 3 elements.earendel wrote:The IUPAC (International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry) has officially recognized the discovery of elements 114 (unumquadium) and 116 (unumhexium). Their official names will be flerovium (for Russian nuclear physicist Georgy Flyorov - sometimes spelled Florov) and muscovium (named for Moscow Oblast [administrative district]).
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Speaking of elements, what are the four elements that have the highest percentage of mass in the human body? That was a TeamTrivia question Monday night.
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Re: welcome unumquadium and unumhexium
Actually I think they are unun quadium and hexium, i.e., 114-ium and 116-ium
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Re: welcome unumquadium and unumhexium
The answer is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositio ... human_bodyBob Juch wrote:Speaking of elements, what are the four elements that have the highest percentage of mass in the human body? That was a TeamTrivia question Monday night.
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Re: welcome unumquadium and unumhexium
Yep, and I've fixed the thread title. Thanks.smilergrogan wrote:Actually I think they are unun quadium and hexium, i.e., 114-ium and 116-ium
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Congrats to Mr. Flyorov. As one of the few people who has had an element named after him, I can appreciate what a truly rare honor this is.earendel wrote:Their official names will be flerovium (for Russian nuclear physicist Georgy Flyorov - sometimes spelled Florov)
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Are you grey and shiny too?silverscreenselect wrote:Congrats to Mr. Flyorov. As one of the few people who has had an element named after him, I can appreciate what a truly rare honor this is.earendel wrote:Their official names will be flerovium (for Russian nuclear physicist Georgy Flyorov - sometimes spelled Florov)
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Re: welcome ununquadium and ununhexium
What about element 115?
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It hasn't been detected yet.Estonut wrote:What about element 115?
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Sporcle has not update the appropriate quiz. I expect a similar problem when Southern Sudan becomes a nation state in July.
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Re: welcome ununquadium and ununhexium
Still patiently waiting for Element #118.....
86498 of 218892: Question of the Day 8/8
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Yesterday's answer: The Lounge. BTW- The other secret passage
connects the kitchen to the study. I can always remember this
because the same room set-up was used in the 1985 movie,
which even after seeing 30+ times still has me ROTFL!
Today's question:
Of all the elements which are gases at room temperature, which
has the highest atomic number?
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I think it's Radon.
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Radon.
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Radon, unless I change my mind later
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I can use one point- Radon
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Of all the elements which are gases at room temperature, which
has the highest atomic number?
Not to be a booger about this, but the answer is probably a lot
more funky than you intend it to be. The highest known element's
atomic number is 118, for an unnamed element which is a noble
gas and which was synthesized at Berkeley. They created a total
of three atoms of this "stuff," which almost immediately
decomposed to element 116, which is also unnamed. They
created this stuff by fusing other atoms (I think krypton and lead;
maybe they should call it kryptonite), in order to make a new,
previously unknown element.
In the real world (the world outside of California) the highest
atomic number for an element that is a gas at room temperature is
radon.
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Are we sure thst element 118 existed in a gaseous state? Being
in the Noble Gasses is not sufficient, in my mind. If they created
only 2 atoms and it almost immediately decomposed, how were
they able to determine any properties? Especially at room
temperature. The fusion on two elements requires some pretty
extreme conditions. Seems as the sample size was too small
and too unstable for any accurate observations. I do not believe
it ever achieved "Room Temperature".
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Are we sure thst element 118 existed in a gaseous state? Being
in the Noble Gasses is not sufficient, in my mind. If they created
only 2 atoms and it almost immediately decomposed, how were
they able to determine any properties?
The fundamental principal underlying the Periodic Table is that
you can predict the properties of an element simply based upon
where it falls on the table; that would indicate that anything that
falls in the column of noble gases must be a gas at room
temperature.
But you are right, Eyegor, about the extreme conditions needed
to create element 118 (which I would REALLY like to see called
"kryptonite"): they had to fire particles accelerated to an energy
level of over 400 million electron volts, they created about one atom
for every trillion interactions, and it lasts about as long as a
politician's promise (about a fifth of a millisecond); which is why
element 118 is a "booger" answer. But still, technically, I think it is
the right answer (I am SURE it will come up on WWTBAM
someday...)
86551 of 218898: element 118 aka Kryptonite
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The fundamental principal underlying the Periodic Table is that
you can predict the properties of an element simply based upon
where it falls on the table; that would indicate that anything that
falls in the column of noble gases must be a gas at room
temperature.
I agree that that is the principal. But the periodic table was
devised based upon the observations of the known elements
(and has held up remarkably well). However, without empirical
data, I respect that you chose to pick the "booger" (blech!), but
I have to stick with Radon.
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Yesterday's answer: The Lounge. BTW- The other secret passage
connects the kitchen to the study. I can always remember this
because the same room set-up was used in the 1985 movie,
which even after seeing 30+ times still has me ROTFL!
Today's question:
Of all the elements which are gases at room temperature, which
has the highest atomic number?
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I think it's Radon.
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Radon.
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Radon, unless I change my mind later
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I can use one point- Radon
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Of all the elements which are gases at room temperature, which
has the highest atomic number?
Not to be a booger about this, but the answer is probably a lot
more funky than you intend it to be. The highest known element's
atomic number is 118, for an unnamed element which is a noble
gas and which was synthesized at Berkeley. They created a total
of three atoms of this "stuff," which almost immediately
decomposed to element 116, which is also unnamed. They
created this stuff by fusing other atoms (I think krypton and lead;
maybe they should call it kryptonite), in order to make a new,
previously unknown element.
In the real world (the world outside of California) the highest
atomic number for an element that is a gas at room temperature is
radon.
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Are we sure thst element 118 existed in a gaseous state? Being
in the Noble Gasses is not sufficient, in my mind. If they created
only 2 atoms and it almost immediately decomposed, how were
they able to determine any properties? Especially at room
temperature. The fusion on two elements requires some pretty
extreme conditions. Seems as the sample size was too small
and too unstable for any accurate observations. I do not believe
it ever achieved "Room Temperature".
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Are we sure thst element 118 existed in a gaseous state? Being
in the Noble Gasses is not sufficient, in my mind. If they created
only 2 atoms and it almost immediately decomposed, how were
they able to determine any properties?
The fundamental principal underlying the Periodic Table is that
you can predict the properties of an element simply based upon
where it falls on the table; that would indicate that anything that
falls in the column of noble gases must be a gas at room
temperature.
But you are right, Eyegor, about the extreme conditions needed
to create element 118 (which I would REALLY like to see called
"kryptonite"): they had to fire particles accelerated to an energy
level of over 400 million electron volts, they created about one atom
for every trillion interactions, and it lasts about as long as a
politician's promise (about a fifth of a millisecond); which is why
element 118 is a "booger" answer. But still, technically, I think it is
the right answer (I am SURE it will come up on WWTBAM
someday...)
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Posted by: Ey�gor (2063 Msgs)
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The fundamental principal underlying the Periodic Table is that
you can predict the properties of an element simply based upon
where it falls on the table; that would indicate that anything that
falls in the column of noble gases must be a gas at room
temperature.
I agree that that is the principal. But the periodic table was
devised based upon the observations of the known elements
(and has held up remarkably well). However, without empirical
data, I respect that you chose to pick the "booger" (blech!), but
I have to stick with Radon.
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Re: welcome ununquadium and ununhexium
The problem with all these element is they are not naturally occuring and are very transient in nature.
Hard to remember since my memory is also transient in nature.
Hard to remember since my memory is also transient in nature.
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