RIH Anwar Al-Awlaki

[jarnon]

Born in America, he was a leader of Al-Qaeda in Yemen and trained terrorists such as the failed "underwear bomber." He was killed in a U.S. air raid. He joins his mentor Bin Laden in hell.

Anwar al-Awlaki Killed: Officials in Yemen Confirm Al Qaeda Cleric Dead

[jarnon]

Happy New Year!

[Flybrick]

AMF.

[Buffacuse]

To borrow a line from the Charlton Heston classic, Two Minute Warning:

"Goodbye, a**hole."

[peacock2121]

What does AMF mean?

[silvercamaro]

What does AMF mean?

It starts with "Adios."

[peacock2121]

What does AMF mean?

It starts with "Adios."

LOL - that was the word I couldn't figure out!

Thanks.

[ulysses5019]

What does AMF mean?

It starts with "Adios."

I guess pea is not bi-lingual.

[smilergrogan]

What does AMF mean?

I think they dropped a bowling ball on him.

[tanstaafl2]

Almost as satisfying as the elimination of OBL. Just a shame they couldn't capture this traitor and revoke his citizenship at the end of a rope or rifle.

[Bob78164]

Interestingly, after the news broke Ron Paul spoke in opposition to Al-Awlaki's "assassination." --Bob

[BackInTex]

Interestingly, after the news broke Ron Paul spoke in opposition to Al-Awlaki's "assassination." --Bob

Yes, because Al-Awlaki was an American citizen.

No trial.

No jury.

No last meal request.

Just an execution via assasination with missle.

I'm not sure what all, if anything he actually claimed to have done. I know he was associated with the underwear bomber and associated with the Ft. Hood shooter, but our own president is associated with known terrorists.

Had Al-Awalki actually claimed any responsibility? Or has he only mouthed off about America like Rev. Wright?

[jarnon]

He was charged, but not convicted, of conspiracy to kill foreigners in Yemen:
Yemen orders arrest of al-Awlaki

Apparently, in Yemen, a judge can order a fugitive to be caught dead or alive, like in our Old West. It doesn't say that his lawyer asked the American Embassy to protect his due process rights. That would have been ironic.

(I'll ignore the stuff about Obama and Wright.)

[jarnon]

The ACLU, on Al-Awlaki's behalf, did ask a federal judge to protect Al-Awlaki's due process rights, but the judge refused:
Targeted killing of al-Awlaki raises legal questions

[Flybrick]

Ron Paul is an absolute strict libertarian.

I can respect his stance without agreeing with it.

This traitor took up arms and aided others who sought to as well as actually did kill Americans and other nations' innocent civilians.

He voluntarily did so; he thus gives up his rights as an American in my opinion.

Or as a human.

Kudos to the UAV operator who pulled the trigger, kudos to the intel specialists who tracked and found him, and kudos to this Administration for not waffling on the need to eliminate this vermin.

Some folks just need killin'. Not a valid legal opinion but a more basic, elemental human moral compass. Evil is evil. Kill it when you can.

[DevilKitty100]

What does AMF mean?

It starts with "Adios."

LOL - that was the word I couldn't figure out!

Thanks.

It's technical political jargon. Here's an illustration of how you use it:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/ri ... 5-14317667

[Bob Juch]

Ron Paul is an absolute strict libertarian.

I can respect his stance without agreeing with it.

This traitor took up arms and aided others who sought to as well as actually did kill Americans and other nations' innocent civilians.

He voluntarily did so; he thus gives up his rights as an American in my opinion.

Or as a human.

Kudos to the UAV operator who pulled the trigger, kudos to the intel specialists who tracked and found him, and kudos to this Administration for not waffling on the need to eliminate this vermin.

Some folks just need killin'. Not a valid legal opinion but a more basic, elemental human moral compass. Evil is evil. Kill it when you can.

The guy who pulled the trigger is probably in New Mexico.

[Estonut]

The guy who pulled the trigger is probably in New Mexico.

How do you know it was a guy?

[Flybrick]

Because BobJ. said so. And about his location.

Never mind the other RPV (UAV) operating locations known throughout the U.S. and overseas.

Or even those ones that are not known.

It's the New Mexican guy without a doubt.

And I'm glad that guy was there to pull the trigger and I hope the now dead SOB had a second to see the streak of fire right before impact. Seeing his dead friends with a soiled dishdash would make a specatular entrance into hell.

[earendel]

Because BobJ. said so. And about his location.

Never mind the other RPV (UAV) operating locations known throughout the U.S. and overseas.

Or even those ones that are not known.

It's the New Mexican guy without a doubt.

And I'm glad that guy was there to pull the trigger and I hope the now dead SOB had a second to see the streak of fire right before impact. Seeing his dead friends with a soiled dishdash would make a specatular entrance into hell.

There was one story over the weekend that indicated this might have been a "two-fer" - that another American-born jihadist, the one who was doing the propaganda in English - was taken out by the same strike. I haven't heard any follow-up on that report, though.

[Weyoun]

Thank goodness he wasn't rendered to Egypt, or sent to Guantanamo. Then people would be really mad!

[BackInTex]

this guy was associated with two failed terrorist plots and was an American citizen. ZAP! with the missile. Good riddance.

And yet 9/11 Mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who was NOT a US citizen and actually planned the very succesful terroist plot that killed 3,000 Americans gets a trial by jury in a civilian court, or at least that was the initial desire. Thankfully it was overridden. But still.

[Bob78164]

this guy was associated with two failed terrorist plots and was an American citizen. ZAP! with the missile. Good riddance.

And yet 9/11 Mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who was NOT a US citizen and actually planned the very succesful terroist plot that killed 3,000 Americans gets a trial by jury in a civilian court, or at least that was the initial desire. Thankfully it was overridden. But still.

The issues are quality control and accountability (of the accusers).

The fundamental purpose of the criminal justice system, and particularly the beyond-a-reasonable-doubt standard, is to give us as much confidence as reasonably possible that the accused really did the crime. (See Shirley Sherrod, Richard Jewell.) We are and should be very leery of short-cutting those procedures when there is a practical alternative because it is a precedent that could be subject to abuse. I don't want my government assassinating people merely because the current Administration finds them embarassing.

For me, the two keys to bypassing the criminal justice system, especially for an American citizen, are (1) we are sure the target really is doing what he's accused of, and that what he's accused of is a threat to, or actually harmed, the physical safety of one or more Americans, and (2) there is no reasonably practical way to capture him. --Bob

[wintergreen48]

this guy was associated with two failed terrorist plots and was an American citizen. ZAP! with the missile. Good riddance.

And yet 9/11 Mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who was NOT a US citizen and actually planned the very succesful terroist plot that killed 3,000 Americans gets a trial by jury in a civilian court, or at least that was the initial desire. Thankfully it was overridden. But still.

The issues are quality control and accountability (of the accusers).

The fundamental purpose of the criminal justice system, and particularly the beyond-a-reasonable-doubt standard, is to give us as much confidence as reasonably possible that the accused really did the crime. (See Shirley Sherrod, Richard Jewell.) We are and should be very leery of short-cutting those procedures when there is a practical alternative because it is a precedent that could be subject to abuse. I don't want my government assassinating people merely because the current Administration finds them embarassing.

For me, the two keys to bypassing the criminal justice system, especially for an American citizen, are (1) we are sure the target really is doing what he's accused of, and that what he's accused of is a threat to, or actually harmed, the physical safety of one or more Americans, and (2) there is no reasonably practical way to capture him. --Bob

Why limit it to cases when

(2) there is no reasonably practical way to capture him

? After all, if

(1) we are sure the target really is doing what he's accused of, and that what he's accused of is a threat to, or actually harmed, the physical safety of one or more Americans,

well, why bother with niceties like 'trials' and so on? I mean, if being really sure of the guy's guilt is enough to justify killing him when we cannot easily capture him, surely being really sure of the guy's guilt is enough to lock him away for life (or otherwise penalize hm) if we can capture him. As long as we are sure.

[Bob78164]

Why limit it to cases when

(2) there is no reasonably practical way to capture him

? After all, if

(1) we are sure the target really is doing what he's accused of, and that what he's accused of is a threat to, or actually harmed, the physical safety of one or more Americans,

well, why bother with niceties like 'trials' and so on? I mean, if being really sure of the guy's guilt is enough to justify killing him when we cannot easily capture him, surely being really sure of the guy's guilt is enough to lock him away for life (or otherwise penalize hm) if we can capture him. As long as we are sure.

Because if we can capture him, we don't need to rely on the Administation's say-so, but if we can't, there's no other practical way to prevent the continued threat to American lives. (And I didn't say "easy," I said "reasonably practical.") That's why we try murderous bank robbers, even when we have them dead to rights on video, unless they resist with deadly force, in which case we're fine with the cops shooting them dead, without a trial or other niceties. --Bob