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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:08 am 
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Former New England Patriot and convicted murderer committed suicide in his prison cell early this morning, just days after being found not guilty of two other murders.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/ ... story.html

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 Post subject: Re: Aaron Hernandez
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:05 am 
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Well, I hadn't turned on the news this morning, & I don't subscribe to newsfeeds (I have enough e-mail harrassment) so I really did "hear it here" 1st.

I would have convicted him of the murders in the most recent trial, based on the evidence I heard, but I was not on the jury.

Hernandez is a very big story here in Boston.


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This following story is of much more importance:

Prosecutors will drop thousands of cases in Dookhan scandal

Prosecutors across the state on Tuesday said they would collectively throw out more than 20,000 cases that relied on evidence handled by a disgraced drug lab chemist, Annie Dookhan.

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Pastor Fireball wrote:
Former New England Patriot and convicted murderer committed suicide in his prison cell early this morning, just days after being found not guilty of two other murders.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/ ... story.html


Couldn't have happened to a more deserving guy.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:55 am 
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From the Mass Bar Association: Under Mass law, Aaron Hernandez's murder conviction gets vacated since he died before his appeal was exhausted.

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 Post subject: Re: Aaron Hernandez
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:16 am 
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From the Mass Bar Association: Under Mass law, Aaron Hernandez's murder conviction gets vacated since he died before his appeal was exhausted.
Odin Lloyd's family sued Hernandez for wrongful death. His other alleged victims' families may sue his estate. If his estate is larger because he's not a convicted felon, the families (and their lawyers) have a bigger pot to go after.


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According to the local experts, Lloyd's family will essentially have to retry the case, instead of just referring to the guilty verdict. And the other families don't even have a guilty verdict to rebuild.

Of course, neither did OJ's victims' families, & they won damages.


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I wonder if his death makes his retirement accounts subjest to creditor's claims

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themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:
I wonder if his death makes his retirement accounts subjest to creditor's claims

By retirement accounts, if you mean his NFL pension, that's a non-event. Like most pensions, you die, it's over (unless it's some kind of joint-and-survivor setup, which I doubt he had).

If he had anything like personal IRAs, I would suspect they may or not be in play, depending upon how things were set up. If they would go to a person as a beneficiary, that's outside of the estate so I'd say no. If it's not and just goes into his general estate, it well might. But that's my (limited) logic on this, and law is often illogical.

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Apparently CTE is being blamed for his problems.

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Bob Juch wrote:
Apparently CTE is being blamed for his problems.



More than likely, it's his G-A-N-G.

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Aaron Hernandez’s conviction for the 2013 murder of Odin Lloyd officially was vacated Tuesday by Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court Judge E. Susan Garsh.

Hernandez’s appeal of his conviction had yet to be heard by the court when the former New England Patriots tight end committed suicide in his jail cell last month. By Massachusetts law, a conviction must be abated if the defendant dies before his or her appeal is settled.

Hernandez was found not guilty in the double murder of Daniel de Abreu and Safiro Furtado just days before his death.

Sports Illustrated legal expert Michael McCann explained last week why getting Hernandez’s conviction abated would be “good news for Hernandez’s estate”:

“If Hernandez’s convictions are vacated, those convictions can no longer be used in civil lawsuits filed by the families of Hernandez’s victims and his alleged victims. Family members of Lloyd, de Abreu and Furtado all have wrongful death claims pending against Hernandez’s estate. In a wrongful death lawsuit, the victim’s family must prove by a preponderance of evidence (more likely than not) that the defendant’s negligence caused the killing of the family member.

“The burden in a wrongful death lawsuit is far lower than in a criminal prosecution, where guilt beyond a reasonable doubt is required. If, as prosecutors demand, abatement is denied, Hernandez’s conviction in murdering Lloyd would make it nearly certain for Lloyd’s mother, Ursula Ward, to prevail. Also, even though Hernandez was not convicted of murdering de Abreu and Furtado, some of the evidence from that prosecution would be admissible in a civil trial if abatement does not occur.”

The abatement also could allow Hernandez’s family to recoup some or all of the $5.91 million in guaranteed money the Patriots withheld from Hernandez after his arrest.


http://nesn.com/2017/05/aaron-hernandezs-murder-conviction-vacated-by-court-ruling/

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Aaron Hernandez’s conviction for the 2013 murder of Odin Lloyd officially was vacated Tuesday by Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court Judge E. Susan Garsh.

Hernandez’s appeal of his conviction had yet to be heard by the court when the former New England Patriots tight end committed suicide in his jail cell last month. By Massachusetts law, a conviction must be abated if the defendant dies before his or her appeal is settled.

Hernandez was found not guilty in the double murder of Daniel de Abreu and Safiro Furtado just days before his death.

Sports Illustrated legal expert Michael McCann explained last week why getting Hernandez’s conviction abated would be “good news for Hernandez’s estate”:

“If Hernandez’s convictions are vacated, those convictions can no longer be used in civil lawsuits filed by the families of Hernandez’s victims and his alleged victims. Family members of Lloyd, de Abreu and Furtado all have wrongful death claims pending against Hernandez’s estate. In a wrongful death lawsuit, the victim’s family must prove by a preponderance of evidence (more likely than not) that the defendant’s negligence caused the killing of the family member.

“The burden in a wrongful death lawsuit is far lower than in a criminal prosecution, where guilt beyond a reasonable doubt is required. If, as prosecutors demand, abatement is denied, Hernandez’s conviction in murdering Lloyd would make it nearly certain for Lloyd’s mother, Ursula Ward, to prevail. Also, even though Hernandez was not convicted of murdering de Abreu and Furtado, some of the evidence from that prosecution would be admissible in a civil trial if abatement does not occur.”

The abatement also could allow Hernandez’s family to recoup some or all of the $5.91 million in guaranteed money the Patriots withheld from Hernandez after his arrest.
http://nesn.com/2017/05/aaron-hernandezs-murder-conviction-vacated-by-court-ruling/
The abatement should not be allowed in the case of the convict's suicide.

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The abatement should not be allowed in the case of the convict's suicide.
In civilized societies, death is considered sufficient punishment for any crime. And Hernandez's estate is still vulnerable to civil suits.


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He had severe CTE. --Bob

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