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Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:18 pm
by flockofseagulls104
No comments on Lisa Bloom. I guess cause the left wing media has ignored it.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:26 pm
by Bob Juch
flockofseagulls104 wrote:No comments on Lisa Bloom. I guess cause the left wing media has ignored it.
What left-wing media do you read/view/listen to?

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:45 pm
by silverscreenselect
flockofseagulls104 wrote:No comments on Lisa Bloom. I guess cause the left wing media has ignored it.
The Lisa Bloom "story" was only a story because right wing sources like The Hill and Fox News tried to turn a lot of nothing into something as usual.

But, here is Bloom's defense of herself:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... rd-1068352

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:51 pm
by Bob78164
flockofseagulls104 wrote:No comments on Lisa Bloom. I guess cause the left wing media has ignored it.
That's because there's literally nothing to see here. An attorney who receives an offer on behalf of her client has a professional obligation to present the offer to her client. If she hadn't presented those offers, she'd have been in violation of ethics rules. --Bob

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:31 pm
by Estonut
silverscreenselect wrote:The Lisa Bloom "story" was only a story because right wing sources like The Hill and Fox News tried to turn a lot of nothing into something as usual.
I looked at many articles about The Hill when this story broke. It was started by a Democrat and now is run by his son. The first page of Google hits regarding the politics of The Hill list it as left- or center-leaning. I have yet to find one that lists it as right wing.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:16 pm
by mrkelley23
Estonut wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:The Lisa Bloom "story" was only a story because right wing sources like The Hill and Fox News tried to turn a lot of nothing into something as usual.
I looked at many articles about The Hill when this story broke. It was started by a Democrat and now is run by his son. The first page of Google hits regarding the politics of The Hill list it as left- or center-leaning. I have yet to find one that lists it as right wing.
I was going to question this too. The Hill is one of many places I have read, and I have never thought of it as anything other than, at best, a center-left publication.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:42 pm
by Estonut
Bob78164 wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:No comments on Lisa Bloom. I guess cause the left wing media has ignored it.
That's because there's literally nothing to see here. An attorney who receives an offer on behalf of her client has a professional obligation to present the offer to her client. If she hadn't presented those offers, she'd have been in violation of ethics rules.
I've always understood that to refer to a settlement offer from the defendant. Does she have no responsibility to report a third-party offer to support her client, but only if the client agrees to testify a certain way? What if she, her mom or Hillary solicited such offers?

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:30 pm
by Bob78164
Estonut wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:No comments on Lisa Bloom. I guess cause the left wing media has ignored it.
That's because there's literally nothing to see here. An attorney who receives an offer on behalf of her client has a professional obligation to present the offer to her client. If she hadn't presented those offers, she'd have been in violation of ethics rules.
I've always understood that to refer to a settlement offer from the defendant. Does she have no responsibility to report a third-party offer to support her client, but only if the client agrees to testify a certain way? What if she, her mom or Hillary solicited such offers?
Certainly not in California, which has particularly robust protection of the attorney-client relationship. If an attorney receives an offer that's illegal or for some other reason improper, whether and how to publicize it is entirely the client's decision to make. With very limited exceptions that this situation doesn't come close to (given that the offer wasn't accepted), the attorney's sole responsibility is to advance the client's best interests as the client determines them to be.

An attorney may not act on behalf of her client to make or solicit an offer that would clearly be in violation of the law or ethics, but that's different from the situation here, where the offer is being made to the client by someone else. Reading between the lines here, it wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that Bloom advised her client not to accept the offer because it was improper. But we'll probably never know for sure because she'd be bound by privilege not to discuss that advice. --Bob

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:24 pm
by silverscreenselect
mrkelley23 wrote:
Estonut wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:The Lisa Bloom "story" was only a story because right wing sources like The Hill and Fox News tried to turn a lot of nothing into something as usual.
I looked at many articles about The Hill when this story broke. It was started by a Democrat and now is run by his son. The first page of Google hits regarding the politics of The Hill list it as left- or center-leaning. I have yet to find one that lists it as right wing.
I was going to question this too. The Hill is one of many places I have read, and I have never thought of it as anything other than, at best, a center-left publication.
Regardless of what the reputation of The Hill in general, John Solomon (who wrote the article) is the former editor-in-chief of the Washington Times. His other recent investigative efforts lately have dealt largely with attempts to tie Hillary and Obama into the Russian uranium "scandal." Here are Lisa Bloom's comments about Solomon:

https://www.thewrap.com/lisa-bloom-slam ... s-article/

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:40 pm
by Estonut
silverscreenselect wrote:
mrkelley23 wrote:
Estonut wrote:I looked at many articles about The Hill when this story broke. It was started by a Democrat and now is run by his son. The first page of Google hits regarding the politics of The Hill list it as left- or center-leaning. I have yet to find one that lists it as right wing.
I was going to question this too. The Hill is one of many places I have read, and I have never thought of it as anything other than, at best, a center-left publication.
Regardless of what the reputation of The Hill in general, John Solomon (who wrote the article) is the former editor-in-chief of the Washington Times. His other recent investigative efforts lately have dealt largely with attempts to tie Hillary and Obama into the Russian uranium "scandal." Here are Lisa Bloom's comments about Solomon:

https://www.thewrap.com/lisa-bloom-slam ... s-article/
Really? She is the accusee. An opinion from most anyone else might be more reliable.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:55 pm
by Bob78164
Estonut wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
mrkelley23 wrote:I was going to question this too. The Hill is one of many places I have read, and I have never thought of it as anything other than, at best, a center-left publication.
Regardless of what the reputation of The Hill in general, John Solomon (who wrote the article) is the former editor-in-chief of the Washington Times. His other recent investigative efforts lately have dealt largely with attempts to tie Hillary and Obama into the Russian uranium "scandal." Here are Lisa Bloom's comments about Solomon:

https://www.thewrap.com/lisa-bloom-slam ... s-article/
Really? She is the accusee. An opinion from most anyone else might be more reliable.
I've now read the story on The Hill. There is no there there. No one was offered money for testifying in a certain way, and each of the women (including the one who served as the primary source of the story) confirmed that Bloom never asked anyone to say anything that she didn't believe to be the truth. --Bob

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:11 pm
by silverscreenselect
Estonut wrote: Really? She is the accusee. An opinion from most anyone else might be more reliable.
How about this one:

https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2017/ ... nal/218318
Hannity was promoting a report by John Solomon, the executive vice president of The Hill, which purported to advance the Uranium One story. According to Solomon’s anonymous sources, “Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow.” Solomon provides no evidence that the Clintons were aware this was happening, and of course the underlying conspiracy theory that Clinton pushed the Uranium One deal through still makes no sense. But it’s something the right-wing press can use to try to shift attention away from Trump.

Solomon is an investigative journalist who has had many acts in the business. This year, he’s drawn attention for his work as chief operating officer of Circa News, a mobile-first platform with an independent brand that the conservative goliath Sinclair Broadcast Group bought in 2015, hollowed out, and turned into its own pro-Trump news website. At Circa, Solomon and his colleague Sara Carter excelled at turning out stories -- often anonymously sourced -- alleging impropriety by former Obama national security officials and former FBI Director James Comey. Feeding into the right-wing narratives about efforts by nefarious deep-state actors to tear down the president, Circa’s reporting received glowing reviews from Trump’s most conspiratorial supporters.

But Circa’s biggest fan is Hannity -- as The Hill put it in March, he “has repeatedly lauded Circa as the gold standard.” Indeed, for all intents and purposes, Solomon’s operation replaced Fox’s own journalists in providing the pro-Trump reporting Hannity needs to confirm his biases. According to Media Matters research, Carter appeared on 30 episodes of Hannity from May 15 through the end of August -- the only guests to show up more often were Trump lawyer Jay Sekulow and Fox legal analyst Gregg Jarrett. Solomon made 14 appearances on Hannity’s Fox News show during the same time frame.

Hannity heavily promoted Solomon’s story on his Fox show, devoting extensive segments to the “explosive” “bombshell” on the night it broke and the next two nights. He’s hosted Solomon, Carter, and Schweizer, harangued the rest of the press for not covering the story, and declared Uranium One “one of the biggest scandals this country has ever seen.” And on the night the story broke, he made clear what he thought should happen next:

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:33 pm
by flockofseagulls104
You lefties are sooooooo predictable. Laughing out loud at you.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:38 pm
by silverscreenselect
flockofseagulls104 wrote:You lefties are sooooooo predictable. Laughing out loud at you.
Flock, to find out what you're going to say tomorrow, all I'd have to do is listen to Hannity's show tonight.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:54 am
by BackInTex
silverscreenselect wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:You lefties are sooooooo predictable. Laughing out loud at you.
Flock, to find out what you're going to say tomorrow, all I'd have to do is listen to Hannity's show tonight.
How would you know this? Do you actually listen to Hannity?

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:54 pm
by flockofseagulls104
BackInTex wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:You lefties are sooooooo predictable. Laughing out loud at you.
Flock, to find out what you're going to say tomorrow, all I'd have to do is listen to Hannity's show tonight.
How would you know this? Do you actually listen to Hannity?
Ah, leave him alone. He has some kind of obsession with Hannity. Whenever he doesn't have a response to something, or he knows his response will be stupid, he brings up Hannity. It's just a debating technique, I guess.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:28 pm
by silverscreenselect
As a public service, USA Today and I have compiled a list of entertainment celebrities who have been accused. Politicians like Al Franken and Roy Moore are not on the list, but some broadcasters like Matt Lauer and Charlie Rose are (Garrison Keillor is not on the list).

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/peo ... 827004001/

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:03 am
by Pastor Fireball
Silicon Valley star T.J. Miller is now on the list... but he also punched the woman, so that makes him not only a pervert but a bastard.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/silicon-v ... ng-a-woman

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:32 am
by ghostjmf
PastorFB:

According to the article, he did a lot worse than "just" punch her. And how is rape less bad than being punched in the face.

She should have dental records about having the tooth he fractured fixed. Young people's teeth don't "just fall apart" (sadly, my old teeth do).

She had plenty ear-witnesses while the rape was going on, who should have knocked down the door, & eye-witnesses to her bruised face the next morning. She should have gone to the police. But back in those days date-rape cases often weren't prosecuted.

She did take the attack, about a year after, to one of those ridiculous student courts; they have no authority beyond as pertains to the school.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:24 am
by Bob Juch
Pastor Fireball wrote:Silicon Valley star T.J. Miller is now on the list... but he also punched the woman, so that makes him not only a pervert but a bastard.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/silicon-v ... ng-a-woman
I guess he wasn't method acting, he really is a son of a bitch. :evil:

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:02 pm
by ghostjmf
Local PBS TV is airing "Let There Be Light", about modern stained-glass crafters, narrated by Garrison Keillor. "Finding Your Roots", on PBS, kicked Keillor's segment off, but as of tonight's schedule his voice is still narrating "Light".

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:46 pm
by jarnon
Charles Dutoit: Conductor relieved of duties after sex assault claims

He isn't as famous as Weinstein or Louis C.K., but he's a big shot in classical music.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:01 pm
by silverscreenselect
jarnon wrote:Charles Dutoit: Conductor relieved of duties after sex assault claims

He isn't as famous as Weinstein or Louis C.K., but he's a big shot in classical music.
I think it's spelled D-E-T-R-O-I-T, as in Nathan.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:30 am
by ghostjmf
Narrator on "Light" was not Keillor & as date given at end was 2015, & other narrator's name was in opening credits this was a quick switch if they did it.

Re: The Harvey List

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:36 am
by jarnon
Miss America CEO Suspended After Vulgar Emails About Contestants Revealed

Though his offenses aren't as bad as those of the former owner of Miss Universe (couldn't resist that little political jab).