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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:54 am 
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From a 10-year old Audubon club magazine-obviously, the scale of detruction has since gotten larger.

Since 1970, about a quarter of the world's mangroves have been destroyed to make shrimp farms.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:29 am 
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Global Warming is having even more catastrophic results in arctic regions already than were predicted.

Deforestation by various Big Businesses also has catastrophic effects on the environment.


And killing of animals people are not going to eat for trophy heads, skins & for tusks that have absolutely no medical value &/or "just for fun" renders species extinct all by itself.

Things don't have to be related to each other to be bad for the earth.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:35 pm 
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ghostjmf wrote:
Global Warming is having even more catastrophic results in arctic regions already than were predicted.

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Name one catastrophic results of global warming in the Arctic

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themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:
ghostjmf wrote:
Global Warming is having even more catastrophic results in arctic regions already than were predicted.

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Name one catastrophic results of global warming in the Arctic

It affects global weather. The recent arctic blasts show that.

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tmitsss says: Name one etc:

Lots of diminished icebergs. Nowhere for polar animals to hang out & raise their babies. Sea levels rising everywhere. Which is really bad if you're on an island. Or even in Miami!


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ghostjmf wrote:
tmitsss says: Name one etc:

Lots of diminished icebergs. Nowhere for polar animals to hang out & raise their babies. Sea levels rising everywhere. Which is really bad if you're on an island. Or even in Miami!


No evidence of sea level rising in my backyard. I would expect if the 'arctic blasts' are evidence of global warming, then I should see my backyard disappearing.

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ghostjmf wrote:
tmitsss says: Name one etc:

Lots of diminished icebergs. Nowhere for polar animals to hang out & raise their babies. Sea levels rising everywhere. Which is really bad if you're on an island. Or even in Miami!


None of there are catastrophic, Polar Bears are doing quite well. Arctic ice is sea ice and doesn't cause sealevel rise if it melts. Price of Miami real estate keeps rising.


https://polarbearscience.com/2018/01/21 ... ore-113760

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