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The FISA memo

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:52 pm
by tlynn78
Hmmm.

Re: The FISA memo

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:08 pm
by flockofseagulls104
tlynn78 wrote:Hmmm.
Looks like lots a lyin' is goin' on. And not by trump.

Re: The FISA memo

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:16 pm
by Bob78164
Please splain. Preferably with a link. I don't think I know anything about this. Thanks. --Bob

Re: The FISA memo

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:17 pm
by silverscreenselect
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
tlynn78 wrote:Hmmm.
Looks like lots a lyin' is goin' on. And not by trump.
Yeah, by Devin Nunes, who can release the memo any time he wants.

Of course then people will see it's all another boatload of the same crap Nunes has been peddling for years.

Re: The FISA memo

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:17 pm
by silverscreenselect
silverscreenselect wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
tlynn78 wrote:Hmmm.
Looks like lots a lyin' is goin' on. And not by trump.
Yeah, by Devin Nunes, who can release the memo any time he wants, seeing as how it's his memo.

Of course then people will see it's all another boatload of the same crap Nunes has been peddling for years.

Re: The FISA memo

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:20 pm
by silverscreenselect
Bob78164 wrote:Please splain. Preferably with a link. I don't think I know anything about this. Thanks. --Bob
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/19/politics/ ... index.html

More Republican fake news or non-news; take your pick.

Re: The FISA memo

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:23 pm
by flockofseagulls104
5 months worth of text messages 'lost' by the FBI? Nixon lost his job because of 18 minutes of erased tapes. Will anyone lose their job? Not likely. Let's see if the MSM evening news gives it more than 5 seconds.
Page, Strzok and Lynch knew Hillary wouldn't be prosecuted before Comey interviewed her? Nothing to see here.

Re: The FISA memo

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:43 pm
by silverscreenselect
flockofseagulls104 wrote:5 months worth of text messages 'lost' by the FBI? Nixon lost his job because of 18 minutes of erased tapes. Will anyone lose their job? Not likely. Let's see if the MSM evening news gives it more than 5 seconds.
Page, Strzok and Lynch knew Hillary wouldn't be prosecuted before Comey interviewed her? Nothing to see here.
I have yet to see any confirmation of this from anything other than the usual right wing sources. Please provide some independent confirmation of a statement by the FBI in this regard (hint: Devin Nunes and Ron Johnson are not independent confirmation, nor is Breitbart)

Re: The FISA memo

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:02 pm
by flockofseagulls104
silverscreenselect wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:5 months worth of text messages 'lost' by the FBI? Nixon lost his job because of 18 minutes of erased tapes. Will anyone lose their job? Not likely. Let's see if the MSM evening news gives it more than 5 seconds.
Page, Strzok and Lynch knew Hillary wouldn't be prosecuted before Comey interviewed her? Nothing to see here.
I have yet to see any confirmation of this from anything other than the usual right wing sources. Please provide some independent confirmation of a statement by the FBI in this regard (hint: Devin Nunes and Ron Johnson are not independent confirmation, nor is Breitbart)
The usual left wing sources (MSM) probably won't even mention it.

Re: The FISA memo

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:22 pm
by Bob78164
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:5 months worth of text messages 'lost' by the FBI? Nixon lost his job because of 18 minutes of erased tapes. Will anyone lose their job? Not likely. Let's see if the MSM evening news gives it more than 5 seconds.
Page, Strzok and Lynch knew Hillary wouldn't be prosecuted before Comey interviewed her? Nothing to see here.
I have yet to see any confirmation of this from anything other than the usual right wing sources. Please provide some independent confirmation of a statement by the FBI in this regard (hint: Devin Nunes and Ron Johnson are not independent confirmation, nor is Breitbart)
The usual left wing sources (MSM) probably won't even mention it.
I think you misspelled "responsible journalists." --Bob

Re: The FISA memo

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:11 pm
by silverscreenselect
Devin Nunes and Ron Johnson are like Joe McCarthy, who kept telling people that he had a list of 57 card carrying members of the Communist Party in the State Department, except he never revealed that list to anyone.

Flock, if you don't see a problem with "reporting" what a politician claims that an FBI letter in his possession says without showing anyone the letter, then you might go back and study up on Tail Gunner Joe.

Re: The FISA memo

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:16 pm
by SportsFan68
flockofseagulls104 wrote:5 months worth of text messages 'lost' by the FBI? Nixon lost his job because of 18 minutes of erased tapes. Will anyone lose their job? Not likely. Let's see if the MSM evening news gives it more than 5 seconds.
Page, Strzok and Lynch knew Hillary wouldn't be prosecuted before Comey interviewed her? Nothing to see here.
Flock, please. Nixon did not lose his job over an 18 1/2 minute gap.

Re: The FISA memo

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:20 pm
by flockofseagulls104
SportsFan68 wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:5 months worth of text messages 'lost' by the FBI? Nixon lost his job because of 18 minutes of erased tapes. Will anyone lose their job? Not likely. Let's see if the MSM evening news gives it more than 5 seconds.
Page, Strzok and Lynch knew Hillary wouldn't be prosecuted before Comey interviewed her? Nothing to see here.
Flock, please. Nixon did not lose his job over an 18 1/2 minute gap.
No, I am well aware he did not resign his job 'because' of the tape erasure, but it was part of the story. And I was comparing it to the report that the FBI has lost 5 months of important and possibly incriminating information. This is the kind of bullshit bob's 'responsible journalists' do to trump, and do not do to the politicians they agree with. Give me a frickin' break. You knew what I meant. Why waste a post pointing out the obvious? Can you not extrapolate a little, or does everything have to be literal?

Re: The FISA memo

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:49 pm
by flockofseagulls104
silverscreenselect wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:5 months worth of text messages 'lost' by the FBI? Nixon lost his job because of 18 minutes of erased tapes. Will anyone lose their job? Not likely. Let's see if the MSM evening news gives it more than 5 seconds.
Page, Strzok and Lynch knew Hillary wouldn't be prosecuted before Comey interviewed her? Nothing to see here.
I have yet to see any confirmation of this from anything other than the usual right wing sources. Please provide some independent confirmation of a statement by the FBI in this regard (hint: Devin Nunes and Ron Johnson are not independent confirmation, nor is Breitbart)
Washington Post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... d4f68876b4

Truthfully, I watch both the network news and Fox News. Fox news reports every important political news story that the networks do, and they report the facts accurately, and in their opinion shows, they present viewpoints from all sides. But they also report stories that for some reason are ignored by the networks. The networks don't seem to be shy in presenting poorly sourced stories that benefit the left, (ask Brian Ross) but they have a lot of trouble with stories that show the ugly side of the left.

I saw nothing on the NBC Nightly News tonight about the FBI losing 5 months of texts between Page and Stzrok, of trump insurance policy fame, although they might have mentioned it during my bathroom break. This time period is just coincidentally right after the 'insurance policy' text to the day before Mueller started his investigation. Do you think that might have been an important story? Do you think Fox News would go with that story and be so specific if they knew it was untrue? Do you really think all the people who watch Fox News would still be watching if every story they report turns out to be untrue?

The left has brainwashed its followers to believe that Fox News is the devil incarnate. They do what they do to every conservative politician that threatens them. They denigrate and demonize them, and do their best to brand them with an image. Reagan was stupid, Gingrich was smart, but mean and greedy, G.W.Bush was a bumbling idiot, Romney was an out of touch elitist. And now Trump is mentally impaired, if not Hitler. When are you going to wise up, SSS?

Re: The FISA memo

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:54 am
by silverscreenselect
flockofseagulls104 wrote: Fox news reports every important political news story that the networks do, and they report the facts accurately, and in their opinion shows, they present viewpoints from all sides. But they also report stories that for some reason are ignored by the networks.
Your opinion of Fox News seems to be shared by no responsible person in the world of journalism.

I did look at the Washington Post article, and the source is a memo from Jeff Sessions' assistant AG (and former communications director) Stephen Boyd. He has been very eager to put forward information that never seems to pan out, such as his report that senior Justice Department officials were seriously weighing the appointing of a special counsel to look into Hillary Clinton's affairs yet again. Nothing came out of that.

He's the one who is describing the nature of the alleged FBI loss of records and the reason, not an FBI source. So, once again a Trump lackey puts out some spin trying to make it look like there's a conspiracy going on when the FBI is turning over hundreds of pages of text messages. And the same thing is going to happen. Nothing will come of this because there is nothing there, which the right wing will claim is further proof of an FBI conspiracy against Trump.

Re: The FISA memo

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:14 am
by flockofseagulls104
silverscreenselect wrote: Your opinion of Fox News seems to be shared by no responsible person in the world of journalism.
There don't seem to be very many of those anymore.

Do you ever watch the daily press briefings? Or any other reports where 'responsible journalists' ask questions? Most of the 'responsible journalists' seem to ask the most innane, ill-informed and stupid questions they can come up with. And very few, if any, ever ask any questions that I would like to see answered in the various situations. And when they do get answers, they spin those answers into whatever narrative they support. These are responsible journalists?

Re: The FISA memo

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:03 am
by Bob78164
flockofseagulls104 wrote:Do you ever watch the daily press briefings?
From the White House? Of course not. There's no reason to watch them as long as there's an inveterate liar in the Oval Office. I'll regain interest in what the White House has to say when Donny's successor takes office. --Bob

Re: The FISA memo

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:31 am
by BackInTex
Bob78164 wrote:Please splain. Preferably with a link. I don't think I know anything about this. Thanks. --Bob
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