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#26 Post by jarnon » Wed May 02, 2018 8:02 pm

I didn’t realize Clinton's mouth had room for her other foot too.

Clinton: Being a capitalist 'probably' hurt me with Dem voters
Hillary Clinton wrote:It’s hard to know, but I mean if you’re in the Iowa caucuses and 41 percent of Democrats are socialists or self-described socialists, and I’m asked “Are you a capitalist?” and I say, “Yes, but with appropriate regulation and appropriate accountability.” You know, that probably gets lost in the “Oh my gosh, she’s a capitalist!”
So America is split between bigots and socialists. Everyone can pick what kind of deplorable they are.
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#27 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu May 03, 2018 8:18 am

Clinton: Being a capitalist 'probably' hurt me with Dem voters
Hillary Clinton wrote:It’s hard to know, but I mean if you’re in the Iowa caucuses and 41 percent of Democrats are socialists or self-described socialists, and I’m asked “Are you a capitalist?” and I say, “Yes, but with appropriate regulation and appropriate accountability.” You know, that probably gets lost in the “Oh my gosh, she’s a capitalist!”
"Darn, if I only said I was a socialist, I would have won!"
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#28 Post by tlynn78 » Thu May 03, 2018 9:52 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote:Clinton: Being a capitalist 'probably' hurt me with Dem voters
Hillary Clinton wrote:It’s hard to know, but I mean if you’re in the Iowa caucuses and 41 percent of Democrats are socialists or self-described socialists, and I’m asked “Are you a capitalist?” and I say, “Yes, but with appropriate regulation and appropriate accountability.” You know, that probably gets lost in the “Oh my gosh, she’s a capitalist!”
"Darn, if I only said I was a socialist, I would have won!"

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#29 Post by Bob78164 » Thu May 03, 2018 10:48 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote:Clinton: Being a capitalist 'probably' hurt me with Dem voters
Hillary Clinton wrote:It’s hard to know, but I mean if you’re in the Iowa caucuses and 41 percent of Democrats are socialists or self-described socialists, and I’m asked “Are you a capitalist?” and I say, “Yes, but with appropriate regulation and appropriate accountability.” You know, that probably gets lost in the “Oh my gosh, she’s a capitalist!”
"Darn, if I only said I was a socialist, I would have won!"
That's funny. I could have sworn you've written that if the Democrats had nominated Senator Sanders you'd probably have voted for him. --Bob
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#30 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu May 03, 2018 11:00 am

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flockofseagulls104 wrote:Clinton: Being a capitalist 'probably' hurt me with Dem voters
Hillary Clinton wrote:It’s hard to know, but I mean if you’re in the Iowa caucuses and 41 percent of Democrats are socialists or self-described socialists, and I’m asked “Are you a capitalist?” and I say, “Yes, but with appropriate regulation and appropriate accountability.” You know, that probably gets lost in the “Oh my gosh, she’s a capitalist!”
"Darn, if I only said I was a socialist, I would have won!"
That's funny. I could have sworn you've written that if the Democrats had nominated Senator Sanders you'd probably have voted for him. --Bob
I probably would have, bob-tel. Either that or I would have voted the way I did anyway. I would never under any circumstances have voted for Clinton. My state probably would have voted for Sanders too. But I don't think he would have gotten elected anyway. Even so, if he did get elected, I am very sure that NOTHING that he wanted to implement would ever have passed Congress. But at least I didn't get the idea he is massively corrupt. Just totally whacko.

What's really funny is for someone to pledge they will do anything they can to subvert the will of the American people even before the elected person took office.
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#31 Post by Bob Juch » Thu May 03, 2018 11:06 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote:What's really funny is for someone to pledge they will do anything they can to subvert the will of the American people even before the elected person took office.
Do you mean like the Republican Congress did when Obama was elected?
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#32 Post by Bob78164 » Thu May 03, 2018 11:12 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote:What's really funny is for someone to pledge they will do anything they can to subvert the will of the American people even before the elected person took office.
How fortunate for me, then, that I've never done that. What I have done is to pledge to do everything in my power to advance the policy and social goals of the majority of the electorate who opposed Donny, and the plurality who voted to elect Secretary Clinton. Not to mention the goals enshrined in our Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Civil War Amendments.

Donny's presidency was never the will of the American people. Just a minority who happen to live in the right places. And his policy goals are grossly unpopular. Why do you think the Republican Party expects the American people to vote them out of their Congressional offices en masse this November? --Bob
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#33 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu May 03, 2018 12:06 pm

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flockofseagulls104 wrote:What's really funny is for someone to pledge they will do anything they can to subvert the will of the American people even before the elected person took office.
How fortunate for me, then, that I've never done that. What I have done is to pledge to do everything in my power to advance the policy and social goals of the majority of the electorate who opposed Donny, and the plurality who voted to elect Secretary Clinton. Not to mention the goals enshrined in our Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Civil War Amendments.

Donny's presidency was never the will of the American people. Just a minority who happen to live in the right places. And his policy goals are grossly unpopular. Why do you think the Republican Party expects the American people to vote them out of their Congressional offices en masse this November? --Bob
No, I don't think so, bob-tel. I believe you are revising history. I don't have time to go back and drag it out. But your pledge was PERSONAL, if I remember correctly. Mainly to do with what he said privately that was recorded, which you gave a pass to Bill Clinton when he actually did it.

Again, bob-tel, you are entitled to your opinion, but they are NOT facts. The will of the American people was to elect trump as President. That is the fact. His policy goals are unpopular with YOU. Like every president before him, he is doing some things that are good and some things that are bad. Which is which depends on your particular point of view. While I did not like the policy goals of Obama, I never waged the hate war that you and yours are doing against trump, which started before he even took office and did anything. Like it or not, to us reasonable people, Hillary is your spokesperson, and she paints you and yours as childish whiners.
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#34 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu May 03, 2018 12:30 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote: Hillary is your spokesperson, and she paints you and yours as childish whiners.
Spoken by a man who refers to people he disagrees with as bobtel and hockey puck.
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#35 Post by tlynn78 » Thu May 03, 2018 12:35 pm

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flockofseagulls104 wrote: Hillary is your spokesperson, and she paints you and yours as childish whiners.
Spoken by a man who refers to people he disagrees with as bobtel and hockey puck.
I've heard worse. On here.
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#36 Post by Beebs52 » Thu May 03, 2018 1:12 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote: Hillary is your spokesperson, and she paints you and yours as childish whiners.
Spoken by a man who refers to people he disagrees with as bobtel and hockey puck.
I've heard worse. On here.
Oh, like racist, white supremacist, simple-minded Republicans? Like that?

Surely u jest.
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#37 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu May 03, 2018 1:49 pm

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flockofseagulls104 wrote: Hillary is your spokesperson, and she paints you and yours as childish whiners.
Spoken by a man who refers to people he disagrees with as bobtel and hockey puck.
I believe you've been changed to asshole. Hockey Puck didn't work. You still have no concept of sarcasm. Asshole fits someone who accuses someone he doesn't know of racism, insults him and his family, is proven wrong and refuses to apologize.

And it's bob-tel with a dash. If he doesn't like it, he can sue me.
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#38 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu May 03, 2018 6:53 pm

One of the main reasons Hillary lost is that she called half the electorate racist bigots to their face. People don't forget that. (Note that AH, formerly hockey puck, formerly SSS). I don't think she has even acknowledged that on her neverending book tour, much less admitted it was wrong. If she did acknowledge it was a mistake, I'm sure that admission was in the vein that it cost her votes, not that she was wrong in saying it. I don't think she has ever apologized for it.
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#39 Post by BackInTex » Thu May 03, 2018 8:22 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
tlynn78 wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
Spoken by a man who refers to people he disagrees with as bobtel and hockey puck.
I've heard worse. On here.
Oh, like racist, white supremacist, simple-minded Republicans? Like that?

Surely u jest.
I wish I had saved what SSS called me on an older version of the board. It was pretty bad. Pastor bad. He's not one to talk.
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#40 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu May 03, 2018 9:36 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:One of the main reasons Hillary lost is that she called half the electorate racist bigots to their face. People don't forget that.
Well, you've apparently forgotten what she said. She didn't call half the electorate racist bigots. She called half of Trump's supporters "deplorables," after prefacing it with the phrase, "to be grossly generalistic." Admittedly, that was a very unfortunate choice of words which she got lambasted for, but it's not calling half the electorate racist bigots (and since I doubt many of them were in the audience at the fundraiser where she was speaking, she didn't call them that to their face).
You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?

The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people — now how 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric.

Now, some of those folks — they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America. But the other basket — and I know this because I see friends from all over America here — I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas — as well as, you know, New York and California — but that other basket of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they’re just desperate for change. It doesn’t really even matter where it comes from. They don’t buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won’t wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroine, feel like they’re in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well.


Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump both put their feet in their mouths a lot. The difference is that Trump gets much more of a free pass with people like Flock, who can't be bothered with trivialities like facts.
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#41 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu May 03, 2018 9:39 pm

BackInTex wrote: I wish I had saved what SSS called me on an older version of the board. It was pretty bad. Pastor bad. He's not one to talk.
I honestly don't remember what I said, but if I did say something that went beyond the pale of the normal give and take political banter here and was personally offensive, I sincerely apologize.
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#42 Post by BackInTex » Thu May 03, 2018 10:07 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
BackInTex wrote: I wish I had saved what SSS called me on an older version of the board. It was pretty bad. Pastor bad. He's not one to talk.
I honestly don't remember what I said, but if I did say something that went beyond the pale of the normal give and take political banter here and was personally offensive, I sincerely apologize.
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#43 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri May 04, 2018 1:44 am

BackInTex wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
BackInTex wrote: I wish I had saved what SSS called me on an older version of the board. It was pretty bad. Pastor bad. He's not one to talk.
I honestly don't remember what I said, but if I did say something that went beyond the pale of the normal give and take political banter here and was personally offensive, I sincerely apologize.
Bored Admins, someone has hacked SSS’s account.

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#44 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri May 04, 2018 1:47 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:One of the main reasons Hillary lost is that she called half the electorate racist bigots to their face. People don't forget that.
Well, you've apparently forgotten what she said. She didn't call half the electorate racist bigots. She called half of Trump's supporters "deplorables," after prefacing it with the phrase, "to be grossly generalistic." Admittedly, that was a very unfortunate choice of words which she got lambasted for, but it's not calling half the electorate racist bigots (and since I doubt many of them were in the audience at the fundraiser where she was speaking, she didn't call them that to their face).
You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?

The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people — now how 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric.

Now, some of those folks — they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America. But the other basket — and I know this because I see friends from all over America here — I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas — as well as, you know, New York and California — but that other basket of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they’re just desperate for change. It doesn’t really even matter where it comes from. They don’t buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won’t wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroine, feel like they’re in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well.


Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump both put their feet in their mouths a lot. The difference is that Trump gets much more of a free pass with people like Flock, who can't be bothered with trivialities like facts.
Which half was she referring to?
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#45 Post by Bob Juch » Fri May 04, 2018 7:20 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:One of the main reasons Hillary lost is that she called half the electorate racist bigots to their face. People don't forget that.
Well, you've apparently forgotten what she said. She didn't call half the electorate racist bigots. She called half of Trump's supporters "deplorables," after prefacing it with the phrase, "to be grossly generalistic." Admittedly, that was a very unfortunate choice of words which she got lambasted for, but it's not calling half the electorate racist bigots (and since I doubt many of them were in the audience at the fundraiser where she was speaking, she didn't call them that to their face).
You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?

The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people — now how 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric.

Now, some of those folks — they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America. But the other basket — and I know this because I see friends from all over America here — I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas — as well as, you know, New York and California — but that other basket of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they’re just desperate for change. It doesn’t really even matter where it comes from. They don’t buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won’t wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroine, feel like they’re in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well.


Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump both put their feet in their mouths a lot. The difference is that Trump gets much more of a free pass with people like Flock, who can't be bothered with trivialities like facts.
So since only one-third of the electorate were trump supporters, that means she called just one-sixth deplorables. I think she underestimated.
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