silverscreenselect wrote:flockofseagulls104 wrote: Read the emails between Strozok and Page and the other Agents 1 - 5.
I'm sure that the Inspector General read those e-mails, and probably a heck of a lot of other e-mails and texts that didn't make their way into his report and concluded: “We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that improper considerations, including political bias, directly affected the specific investigative actions we reviewed.” In fact, he found that Strzok "advocated for more aggressive investigative measures" against Hillary.
So your reading of one e-mail or even a handful of e-mails taken out of context outweighs the findings of the Inspector General which looked at the entire course of dealing involved in the case, including, I'm sure, a lot of information that wasn't made public and most assuredly a lot of information the conspiracy mongers didn't report.
You are more than willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt on every stupid, lying, or suspicious thing he does but you can't accept that these e-mails in all likelihood were the equivalent of bedroom talk between two illicit lovers. That's something that the Inspector General should have condemned because FBI agents should avoid the appearance of impropriety. But it doesn't turn bedroom talk into a conspiracy that created all the evidence against the various Trump associates. And there is certainly plenty of loose language floating around in various FBI communications and Devin Nunes admitting that "good" FBI agents leaked information detrimental to Hillary's campaign to him. Where's your outrage about that?
For what it's worth, I'm sure that if any of the Mueller indictments go to a jury trial, the defense will have ample opportunity to raise these theories. Paul Manafort already has and they haven't done him any good.
I am going to tell you this ONE LAST TIME. If you choose to ignore what I'm telling you and go on with your innane reponses to me, it's on you.
I do NOT like trump. I did not vote for him, not in the primary or for president. He is a jerk. His personal behavior is very unprofessional and certainly unpresidential. He is an egomaniac. He is also a liar.
That being said, most politicians are personally jerks. They are mostly egomaniacs as well. Any person who would voluntarily put themselves through a campaign for a national office almost has to be an egomaniac. The big difference is that those professional egocentric political jerks have people that do their best to groom their public image. trump lets his many faults hang right out there for all to see. The downside to that is he makes himself a target to all his enemies and gives them ammunition that they wouldn't normally have with a protected politician who isn't found out to be the scumbag he/she really is. The upside is that we can see exactly what he is thinking without buffers.
I find it very doubtful that he entered the presidential race for financial gain. That argument is as politically driven as the 'No Blood for Oil' mantra. Maybe he entered the race to gain more power. In that case, he has a lot of company in Washington DC. Maybe just for ego. Ditto.
I would guess (opinion) that he entered the race because he saw many problems in Washington he thought he could fix, and/or that he really loathed the Washington culture, and/or he believed he was the only person in the world who could fix everything. Maybe I'm wrong, but to me these seem to be the most logical reasons.
Be that what it may, he touched a nerve in this country that is fed up with Washington DC. And he found himself in a race with Hillary Clinton, who, to many people, rightly or wrongly, is viewed as the epitome of the problems in DC, and who has many faults of her own. He won.
He is our president, and because of that, I support him. I acknowledge he was not even close to my first choice, but he holds the office. I didn't agree with Obama, (who also is a liar, ego-centric and pretty much a jerk), but I never vowed to work to get him impeached, called him names or posted incipit, juvenile cartoons making fun of him. I know others did, but I try not to do that. I posted many times disagreeing with things he did. But nowhere near the depth that you trump-haters have sunk to.
He IS doing a lot of things I agree with (much more than Obama did), and many things I totally disagree with. I will criticise him when I believe what he's doing is damaging our country (like totally disregarding the national debt, and piling up more, and ignoring the constutional limits of his office, just like Obama did).
I am NOT a trump supporter. But I do believe the US is still the best country in the world. It is totally wrong that we are separating illegal aliens from their children, and that must stop. But if you think about it, if what we are being told is true, that these people are fleeing violent situations in their home countries, why do they NEED to come here? Why is Mexico not taking them in? Or some other country?
One thing I agree with trump on is that we need to STOP illegal immigration BEFORE we can determine what to do with the millions that are here already, or we will never solve the problem. I would put this test to anyone running for congress: If you believe a wall is not the answer, submit another solution, but GET SOMETHING DONE TO STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION and do it NOW, even if you have to compromise.
So, SSS, if you make another post that contradicts what I have just told you, you can go shove it where the sun doesn't shine.