Re: ABC Cancels "Roseanne"
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 9:46 am
But trump doesn't make the distinction between legal and illegal immigrants. He apparently has forgotten about the illegals in his family tree.flockofseagulls104 wrote:The main thing that is not 'normal' is the left's definition of 'racism', which they are using to divide our country and to hit their opponents over the head with. Trump, to my knowledge, has never said ANYTHING that indicates that he thinks 'white' people, or any other racial group, is better or superior than any other. That is the true definition of 'racism'. What he does is make a distinction between people who are legitimate citizens of this country, along with those who have followed the legal steps to live or be in this country, and those who ignore the laws and enter this country illegally. A distinction that has always been non-controversial until recently.Bob78164 wrote:This is exactly what I mean when I talk about normalizing Donny. What Donny is doing by frankly pandering to racists is not equivalent that anything any other national politician has done since the '60s. And Donny's consistent complete, total, and utter disregard for the truth is, as far as I can tell, completely unprecedented in American political history (again, among prominent politicians).BackInTex wrote:
And that is different from other politicians because......?
What he's doing to our country isn't normal. Claiming this is just business as usual makes it normal. I won't agree to that. Neither should anyone else. --Bob
Somehow, that distinction has been blurred. Every time I see a 'news' story where illegal aliens are grouped together in the term 'immigrants', it is concerning to me. Why is it 'racist' to make a distinction between those who complied with our laws to be in our country and those who ignore our laws? Yes, we all know they are people, and they are deserving of compassion, but they made a conscious decision to break the law, regardless of their circumstances. And it just so happens that the majority of the people who are in this group come from south of the border. And why is it 'racist' to be concerned that people who are entering this country anonomously and without any vetting may pose a danger to the existing citizens? Isn't that why we, and every other civilized country, have immigration laws, passports and visas?
Branding trump, or anyone else as a racist because they make the distinction between legal and illegal immigration is WRONG. And it is a form of bias and intolerance all by itself. And many people are coming to that conclusion, and are frankly tired of it.
No, his discussion of "shithole countries" just happen to be countries in which the vast majority of people are dark skinned.Trump, to my knowledge, has never said ANYTHING that indicates that he thinks 'white' people, or any other racial group, is better or superior than any other. That is the true definition of 'racism'.
He certainly does. And he always has. It is democrats and the biased MSM that makes no distinction.Bob Juch wrote:But trump doesn't make the distinction between legal and illegal immigrants. He apparently has forgotten about the illegals in his family tree.flockofseagulls104 wrote:The main thing that is not 'normal' is the left's definition of 'racism', which they are using to divide our country and to hit their opponents over the head with. Trump, to my knowledge, has never said ANYTHING that indicates that he thinks 'white' people, or any other racial group, is better or superior than any other. That is the true definition of 'racism'. What he does is make a distinction between people who are legitimate citizens of this country, along with those who have followed the legal steps to live or be in this country, and those who ignore the laws and enter this country illegally. A distinction that has always been non-controversial until recently.Bob78164 wrote:This is exactly what I mean when I talk about normalizing Donny. What Donny is doing by frankly pandering to racists is not equivalent that anything any other national politician has done since the '60s. And Donny's consistent complete, total, and utter disregard for the truth is, as far as I can tell, completely unprecedented in American political history (again, among prominent politicians).
What he's doing to our country isn't normal. Claiming this is just business as usual makes it normal. I won't agree to that. Neither should anyone else. --Bob
Somehow, that distinction has been blurred. Every time I see a 'news' story where illegal aliens are grouped together in the term 'immigrants', it is concerning to me. Why is it 'racist' to make a distinction between those who complied with our laws to be in our country and those who ignore our laws? Yes, we all know they are people, and they are deserving of compassion, but they made a conscious decision to break the law, regardless of their circumstances. And it just so happens that the majority of the people who are in this group come from south of the border. And why is it 'racist' to be concerned that people who are entering this country anonomously and without any vetting may pose a danger to the existing citizens? Isn't that why we, and every other civilized country, have immigration laws, passports and visas?
Branding trump, or anyone else as a racist because they make the distinction between legal and illegal immigration is WRONG. And it is a form of bias and intolerance all by itself. And many people are coming to that conclusion, and are frankly tired of it.
flockofseagulls104 wrote:He certainly does. And he always has. It is democrats and the biased MSM that makes no distinctionBob Juch wrote: But trump doesn't make the distinction between legal and illegal immigrants. He apparently has forgotten about the illegals in his family tree.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/11/politics ... index.htmlOne of the sources briefed on the Thursday Oval Office meeting with lawmakers confirmed Trump asked, "Why do we want all these people from 'shithole countries' coming here?" A person familiar with the meeting said Illinois Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin and South Carolina GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham brought a plan to Trump that involved cutting the visa lottery in half and, at the behest of the Congressional Black Caucus, the rest would go to underrepresented countries in Africa and Temporary Protective Status nations, including Haiti. The person said the language was salty on both sides.
One person briefed on the meeting said when Durbin got to Haiti, Trump began to ask why we want people from Haiti and more Africans in the US and added that the US should get more people from countries like Norway. A person familiar with what was said at the meeting told CNN that Trump also said: "Why do we need more Haitians? Take them out."
Well, Dick Durbin is certainly a non-partisan confirmation. Several other participants say he didn't say anything in those terms. But I tend to agree he probably did.silverscreenselect wrote:flockofseagulls104 wrote:He certainly does. And he always has. It is democrats and the biased MSM that makes no distinctionBob Juch wrote: But trump doesn't make the distinction between legal and illegal immigrants. He apparently has forgotten about the illegals in his family tree.https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/11/politics ... index.htmlOne of the sources briefed on the Thursday Oval Office meeting with lawmakers confirmed Trump asked, "Why do we want all these people from 'shithole countries' coming here?" A person familiar with the meeting said Illinois Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin and South Carolina GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham brought a plan to Trump that involved cutting the visa lottery in half and, at the behest of the Congressional Black Caucus, the rest would go to underrepresented countries in Africa and Temporary Protective Status nations, including Haiti. The person said the language was salty on both sides.
One person briefed on the meeting said when Durbin got to Haiti, Trump began to ask why we want people from Haiti and more Africans in the US and added that the US should get more people from countries like Norway. A person familiar with what was said at the meeting told CNN that Trump also said: "Why do we need more Haitians? Take them out."
This was a discussion about various methods of legal immigration. And, in case you want to complain about "fake news," Dick Durbin has confirmed this information.
Someone in the PR Department earned his or her paycheck today. --BobSanofi Corporation wrote:While all pharmaceutical treatments have side effects, racism is not a known side effect of any Sanofi medication.
But would you use that as an argument for discouraging immigration from those countries? That was the context in which Trump made the statement.flockofseagulls104 wrote: I would describe a country with a completely corrupt government and little or no rule of law a shithole.
<snark>Canadians will soon be asking themselves that question in response to an influx of potential immigrants from the United States.</snark> --Bobfranktangredi wrote:But would you use that as an argument for discouraging immigration from those countries? That was the context in which Trump made the statement.flockofseagulls104 wrote: I would describe a country with a completely corrupt government and little or no rule of law a shithole.
Should the fact that a country has a completely corrupt government and little or no rule of law be held against someone who wants to get OUT of a country that has a completely corrupt government and little or no rule of law?
You're a comedian, you are. Slapped my garters at that one.Bob78164 wrote:<snark>Canadians will soon be asking themselves that question in response to an influx of potential immigrants from the United States.</snark> --Bobfranktangredi wrote:But would you use that as an argument for discouraging immigration from those countries? That was the context in which Trump made the statement.flockofseagulls104 wrote: I would describe a country with a completely corrupt government and little or no rule of law a shithole.
Should the fact that a country has a completely corrupt government and little or no rule of law be held against someone who wants to get OUT of a country that has a completely corrupt government and little or no rule of law?
Sometimes ya gotta laugh to keep from cryin'. --BobBeebs52 wrote:You're a comedian, you are. Slapped my garters at that one.Bob78164 wrote:<snark>Canadians will soon be asking themselves that question in response to an influx of potential immigrants from the United States.</snark> --Bobfranktangredi wrote:
But would you use that as an argument for discouraging immigration from those countries? That was the context in which Trump made the statement.
Should the fact that a country has a completely corrupt government and little or no rule of law be held against someone who wants to get OUT of a country that has a completely corrupt government and little or no rule of law?
Costco has great deals on tissues. Kirkland. Just saying.Bob78164 wrote:Sometimes ya gotta laugh to keep from cryin'. --BobBeebs52 wrote:You're a comedian, you are. Slapped my garters at that one.Bob78164 wrote:<snark>Canadians will soon be asking themselves that question in response to an influx of potential immigrants from the United States.</snark> --Bob
Don't you have to be a member to shop there? Would I want to be a member of a club that would have me? --BobBeebs52 wrote:Costco has great deals on tissues. Kirkland. Just saying.Bob78164 wrote:Sometimes ya gotta laugh to keep from cryin'. --BobBeebs52 wrote:
You're a comedian, you are. Slapped my garters at that one.
I know I wouldn't.Bob78164 wrote:Don't you have to be a member to shop there? Would I want to be a member of a club that would have me? --BobBeebs52 wrote:Costco has great deals on tissues. Kirkland. Just saying.Bob78164 wrote:Sometimes ya gotta laugh to keep from cryin'. --Bob
No we won’t. We can see what you are escaping from, and Canadians are compassionateBob78164 wrote:<snark>Canadians will soon be asking themselves that question in response to an influx of potential immigrants from the United States.</snark> --Bobfranktangredi wrote:But would you use that as an argument for discouraging immigration from those countries? That was the context in which Trump made the statement.flockofseagulls104 wrote: I would describe a country with a completely corrupt government and little or no rule of law a shithole.
Should the fact that a country has a completely corrupt government and little or no rule of law be held against someone who wants to get OUT of a country that has a completely corrupt government and little or no rule of law?
I don't know the Canadian numbers, but in the U.S. the viewers fell to less than half of those who watched the first episode.Brit Canuck wrote:CTV, the Canadian network that aired 'Roseanne', has banished the series from both of its broadcast channels, its online website and mobile 'Go' app, and has also pulled the show from all national on-demand providers.
Understandable, but a big shame, considering that more than 2.1 million CTV viewers (huge numbers for a Canadian network) watched the first episode.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/ctv ... -1.3950555
Wouldn't surprise me if Cohen's better as an actor than a lawyer. But he may have another "commitment" for the next few years.silverscreenselect wrote:Maybe Tom Arnold will guest star on the new show and bring his new buddy Michael Cohen with him.