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I don't think they're much in the business of referring abortions, rather, performing them.

No, they don't.
If you're saying Planned Parenthood clinics don't offer abortions, you're mistaken. --Bob

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I don't think they're much in the business of referring abortions, rather, performing them.

No, they don't.
If you're saying Planned Parenthood clinics don't offer abortions, you're mistaken. --Bob

They offer referrals to doctors, not perform them in their back room.

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No, they don't.
If you're saying Planned Parenthood clinics don't offer abortions, you're mistaken. --Bob

They offer referrals to doctors, not perform them in their back room.

Bob# is right. Their centers do indeed perform them
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn ... c-abortion
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/healt ... al-listing
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No, they don't.
If you're saying Planned Parenthood clinics don't offer abortions, you're mistaken. --Bob

They offer referrals to doctors, not perform them in their back room.
The link I provided was Planned Parenthood describing the process of an in-clinic abortion. --Bob

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If you're saying Planned Parenthood clinics don't offer abortions, you're mistaken. --Bob

They offer referrals to doctors, not perform them in their back room.

Bob# is right. Their centers do indeed perform them
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn ... c-abortion
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/healt ... al-listing
Houston -

Note this from the Houston link: Planned Parenthood health centers are operated by regional Planned Parenthood affiliate organizations.

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They offer referrals to doctors, not perform them in their back room.

Bob# is right. Their centers do indeed perform them
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn ... c-abortion
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/healt ... al-listing
Houston -

Note this from the Houston link: Planned Parenthood health centers are operated by regional Planned Parenthood affiliate organizations.

I'm sorry, is English your first language?
So? AND if you look at their site they are operated by Planned Paren5hood Gulf Coast.

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Note this from the Houston link: Planned Parenthood health centers are operated by regional Planned Parenthood affiliate organizations.

I'm sorry, is English your first language?
So? AND if you look at their site they are operated by Planned Paren5hood Gulf Coast.
The point of the corporate division is to be sure that, in compliance with federal law, no federal money is used to provide abortions. I've often seen people attempt to blur that division (falsely suggesting that Planned Parenthood is using federal money to provide abortions), so Bob's point is worth making. --Bob

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Note this from the Houston link: Planned Parenthood health centers are operated by regional Planned Parenthood affiliate organizations.

I'm sorry, is English your first language?
So? AND if you look at their site they are operated by Planned Paren5hood Gulf Coast.
The point of the corporate division is to be sure that, in compliance with federal law, no federal money is used to provide abortions. I've often seen people attempt to blur that division (falsely suggesting that Planned Parenthood is using federal money to provide abortions), so Bob's point is worth making. --Bob


Agreed. I'm sure similar segregation makes what the Clintons and their foundation do legal, technically. Morally, not so much for either entity.

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Note this from the Houston link: Planned Parenthood health centers are operated by regional Planned Parenthood affiliate organizations.

I'm sorry, is English your first language?
So? AND if you look at their site they are operated by Planned Paren5hood Gulf Coast.
The point of the corporate division is to be sure that, in compliance with federal law, no federal money is used to provide abortions. I've often seen people attempt to blur that division (falsely suggesting that Planned Parenthood is using federal money to provide abortions), so Bob's point is worth making. --Bob

Thank you.

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I'm sorry, is English your first language?
So? AND if you look at their site they are operated by Planned Paren5hood Gulf Coast.
The point of the corporate division is to be sure that, in compliance with federal law, no federal money is used to provide abortions. I've often seen people attempt to blur that division (falsely suggesting that Planned Parenthood is using federal money to provide abortions), so Bob's point is worth making. --Bob

Thank you.


Be sure to make a similar differentiation on all your comments about Churches, the Republican Party, and such as most everything is a separate legal entity these days.

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BackInTex wrote:
I'm sure similar segregation makes what the Clintons and their foundation do legal, technically. Morally, not so much for either entity.


I'm curious just which of these accomplishments of the Clinton Foundation offends your sense of morality

Fortune Magazine wrote:
Since 2005, according to [the Clinton Foundation], it has spawned initiatives that:
•Raised $313 million for R&D into new vaccines and medicines;
•Helped provide better maternal and child survival care to more than 110 million people, and;
•Provided treatment for more than 36 million people with tropical diseases.

Private firms are also in the mix. Biotech giant Gilead (gild, +0.13%) and the NAACP joined forces to recruit religious leaders in the African American community to help fight HIV/AIDS, which disproportionately affects blacks in the U.S. Medical tech company Becton Dickinson(bd), which ranked among the 50 companies in Fortune‘s Change the World list this year, has committed to dramatically cutting the price of CD4 immune cell tests for HIV-positive people across 55 countries. And in 2015, the American Society for Clinical Pathology (ASCP) and a host of other partners pledged to build up a world-class cancer diagnostic and treatment system in sub-Saharan Africa and Haiti, including boosting telemedicine and cloud-based electronic health records systems. The project is currently ongoing.

The Foundation says that another one of its arms, a collaboration with the American Heart Association (AHA) called the Alliance for a Healthier Generation, has helped provide access to healthier meals across more than 31,000 American schools and boosted physical education, the availability of nutritious meals, and extracurricular exercise in poor communities with high obesity rates. But the Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI), which is an independent entity of the Clinton Foundation, may have had the most wide-ranging impact on global public health to date. It has helped negotiate HIV/AIDS therapy price cuts as high as 90%, ensuring access to these treatments for more than 11.5 million people across more than 70 countries, the Foundation says.


http://fortune.com/2016/08/27/clinton-f ... alth-work/

I'm curious how many good deeds Michael Cohen's slush fund has done. We'll probably find out soon enough when he starts singing to Mueller.

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I'm sorry, is English your first language?
So? AND if you look at their site they are operated by Planned Paren5hood Gulf Coast.
The point of the corporate division is to be sure that, in compliance with federal law, no federal money is used to provide abortions. I've often seen people attempt to blur that division (falsely suggesting that Planned Parenthood is using federal money to provide abortions), so Bob's point is worth making. --Bob


Agreed. I'm sure similar segregation makes what the Clintons and their foundation do legal, technically. Morally, not so much for either entity.
Leaving aside the false factual innuendo about the Clinton Foundation, I don't think I understand your point. My understanding is that you think abortion is immoral in all circumstances (unless necessary to save the life of the mother), and that if you could impose a nationwide ban on abortion, you would do so. Am I mistaken about that? If not, then I don't see why you care who is paying for or performing the procedures. --Bob

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I don't see why you care who is paying for or performing the procedures. --Bob


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I don't see why you care who is paying for or performing the procedures. --Bob


I need to know who's ass to kick.
Given some of the violence that's occurred against abortion providers, that's really not funny. --Bob

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I don't see why you care who is paying for or performing the procedures. --Bob


I need to know who's ass to kick.
Given some of the violence that's occurred against abortion providers, that's really not funny. --Bob


It is funny, witty, and the delivery was perfect.

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Given some of the violence that's occurred against abortion providers, that's really not funny. --Bob


It is funny, witty, and the delivery was perfect.


One must appreciate metaphors, jokes and hyperbole to not get one's panties soiled, especially when the same supposed jokes, metaphors and hyperbole are employed by YOUR political side.

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I'm sure similar segregation makes what the Clintons and their foundation do legal, technically. Morally, not so much for either entity.


I'm curious just which of these accomplishments of the Clinton Foundation offends your sense of morality

Fortune Magazine wrote:
Since 2005, according to [the Clinton Foundation], it has spawned initiatives that:
•Raised $313 million for R&D into new vaccines and medicines;
•Helped provide better maternal and child survival care to more than 110 million people, and;
•Provided treatment for more than 36 million people with tropical diseases.

Private firms are also in the mix. Biotech giant Gilead (gild, +0.13%) and the NAACP joined forces to recruit religious leaders in the African American community to help fight HIV/AIDS, which disproportionately affects blacks in the U.S. Medical tech company Becton Dickinson(bd), which ranked among the 50 companies in Fortune‘s Change the World list this year, has committed to dramatically cutting the price of CD4 immune cell tests for HIV-positive people across 55 countries. And in 2015, the American Society for Clinical Pathology (ASCP) and a host of other partners pledged to build up a world-class cancer diagnostic and treatment system in sub-Saharan Africa and Haiti, including boosting telemedicine and cloud-based electronic health records systems. The project is currently ongoing.

The Foundation says that another one of its arms, a collaboration with the American Heart Association (AHA) called the Alliance for a Healthier Generation, has helped provide access to healthier meals across more than 31,000 American schools and boosted physical education, the availability of nutritious meals, and extracurricular exercise in poor communities with high obesity rates. But the Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI), which is an independent entity of the Clinton Foundation, may have had the most wide-ranging impact on global public health to date. It has helped negotiate HIV/AIDS therapy price cuts as high as 90%, ensuring access to these treatments for more than 11.5 million people across more than 70 countries, the Foundation says.


http://fortune.com/2016/08/27/clinton-f ... alth-work/

I'm curious how many good deeds Michael Cohen's slush fund has done. We'll probably find out soon enough when he starts singing to Mueller.
How much has this wonderful foundation raised since Hillary lost the election and no longer had any pay-to-play to offer?

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I need to know who's ass to kick.
Given some of the violence that's occurred against abortion providers, that's really not funny. --Bob


It is funny, witty, and the delivery was perfect.
No, for the delivery to be perfect, you'd have needed to say whose, not who's. --Bob

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Given some of the violence that's occurred against abortion providers, that's really not funny. --Bob


It is funny, witty, and the delivery was perfect.
No, for the delivery to be perfect, you'd have needed to say whose, not who's. --Bob


Glad you agree it was funny and witty.

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It is funny, witty, and the delivery was perfect.
No, for the delivery to be perfect, you'd have needed to say whose, not who's. --Bob


Glad you agree it was funny and witty.


I imagine it's hard to have a sense of humor when one is wallowing in angst.

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