Guess I may be a bad person
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Guess I may be a bad person
I don't hold any person as an icon or idol. I admire and love certain peeps but don't idolize'em. That is all.
Well, then
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I don't understand the title. Why would your position be a bad one?
I like to think of our admiration of other people as a way for us to learn models of behaviors and virtues we'd like to live out in ourselves. If that's what it is, then we need to admire people with virtues and not just talent. If that makes sense.
I like to think of our admiration of other people as a way for us to learn models of behaviors and virtues we'd like to live out in ourselves. If that's what it is, then we need to admire people with virtues and not just talent. If that makes sense.
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It makes much sense. I've always told my son that I'm happy for him that he's smart, but I'm proud of him for how he uses his smarts. --BobRitterskoop wrote:I don't understand the title. Why would your position be a bad one?
I like to think of our admiration of other people as a way for us to learn models of behaviors and virtues we'd like to live out in ourselves. If that's what it is, then we need to admire people with virtues and not just talent. If that makes sense.
"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." Thomas Jefferson
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Unless he performs at an open mic night?Bob78164 wrote:It makes much sense. I've always told my son that I'm happy for him that he's smart, but I'm proud of him for how he uses his smarts.Ritterskoop wrote:I don't understand the title. Why would your position be a bad one?
I like to think of our admiration of other people as a way for us to learn models of behaviors and virtues we'd like to live out in ourselves. If that's what it is, then we need to admire people with virtues and not just talent. If that makes sense.
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Maybe bad choice of words, it just seems that whenever a prominent person dies, and not just McCain, who obviously accomplished a lot, but actors, musicians, etc , the media and public overblow everything.Ritterskoop wrote:I don't understand the title. Why would your position be a bad one?
I like to think of our admiration of other people as a way for us to learn models of behaviors and virtues we'd like to live out in ourselves. If that's what it is, then we need to admire people with virtues and not just talent. If that makes sense.
Well, then
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He has, in fact, done precisely that. He's quite musical. --BobEstonut wrote:Unless he performs at an open mic night?Bob78164 wrote:It makes much sense. I've always told my son that I'm happy for him that he's smart, but I'm proud of him for how he uses his smarts.Ritterskoop wrote:I don't understand the title. Why would your position be a bad one?
I like to think of our admiration of other people as a way for us to learn models of behaviors and virtues we'd like to live out in ourselves. If that's what it is, then we need to admire people with virtues and not just talent. If that makes sense.
"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." Thomas Jefferson
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So you are saying we shouldn't idolize people, which is an admirable stance. It sounds like you are saying people who DO idolize someone are the bad people, though. That's why I got confused about the title, which was the opposite. Maybe it is an extension of sarcasm, which often seems to be to be backwards-talking but for effect. Eh. It is not my strong suit.Beebs52 wrote:Maybe bad choice of words, it just seems that whenever a prominent person dies, and not just McCain, who obviously accomplished a lot, but actors, musicians, etc , the media and public overblow everything.Ritterskoop wrote:I don't understand the title. Why would your position be a bad one?
I like to think of our admiration of other people as a way for us to learn models of behaviors and virtues we'd like to live out in ourselves. If that's what it is, then we need to admire people with virtues and not just talent. If that makes sense.
To the original point, though, I wonder if maybe you are just weary of the reactions to celebrity deaths? I turn off the TV if there has been too much effusiveness about Aretha, or McCain, or whomever. Or let roomie change the channel to the swamp people, on which show I am always rooting for the gators. As long as he does not leave it on Family Guy, which is The Worst.
I don't think they will go overboard today on Neil Simon, who was 91 and there is only so much you can say past the obvious.
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I love you, I do. Yes my "bad" was sarcastic. I don't think peeps who idolize people are bad, just misguided.Ritterskoop wrote:So you are saying we shouldn't idolize people, which is an admirable stance. It sounds like you are saying people who DO idolize someone are the bad people, though. That's why I got confused about the title, which was the opposite. Maybe it is an extension of sarcasm, which often seems to be to be backwards-talking but for effect. Eh. It is not my strong suit.Beebs52 wrote:Maybe bad choice of words, it just seems that whenever a prominent person dies, and not just McCain, who obviously accomplished a lot, but actors, musicians, etc , the media and public overblow everything.Ritterskoop wrote:I don't understand the title. Why would your position be a bad one?
I like to think of our admiration of other people as a way for us to learn models of behaviors and virtues we'd like to live out in ourselves. If that's what it is, then we need to admire people with virtues and not just talent. If that makes sense.
To the original point, though, I wonder if maybe you are just weary of the reactions to celebrity deaths? I turn off the TV if there has been too much effusiveness about Aretha, or McCain, or whomever. Or let roomie change the channel to the swamp people, on which show I am always rooting for the gators. As long as he does not leave it on Family Guy, which is The Worst.
I don't think they will go overboard today on Neil Simon, who was 91 and there is only so much you can say past the obvious.
I have been bingewatching HGTV, behind everyone I know. Fixer Upper rocks. Plus TCM, and I do like the swamp peoples.
Well, then
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I resent that they put subtitles on there when I can understand every damn word.
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No kidding. But the shot sequences are sorta bogus. Didja see the one wi5h 5he python and gator at midnight?Ritterskoop wrote:I resent that they put subtitles on there when I can understand every damn word.
Well, then
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1) Swamp People?? How did I NOT know of this before now? :O
2) HGTV - I pick ideas from different shows. I am a big fan of rehab stuff - Nicole from the Midwest and Marnie from Delaware beaches (which are things we can actually use here). I also really like Beachfront Bargain Hunt - especially when "bargain" means different things in different places.
3) I had Fixer Uppere overload for a bit, but returned to it. I also really like to look at all the Magnolia stuff that Joanna Gaines has come up with.
4) TCM - goes without saying.
2) HGTV - I pick ideas from different shows. I am a big fan of rehab stuff - Nicole from the Midwest and Marnie from Delaware beaches (which are things we can actually use here). I also really like Beachfront Bargain Hunt - especially when "bargain" means different things in different places.
3) I had Fixer Uppere overload for a bit, but returned to it. I also really like to look at all the Magnolia stuff that Joanna Gaines has come up with.
4) TCM - goes without saying.
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When I was in the waiting room on jury duty they had the TVs on HGTV all the time, which I guess is a good, neutral show, except that none of us can afford any of the houses or renovations. Our days it was on a loop of a show called something like Love it or list it, where the show would renovate to your specs and then you could decide to keep the house or sell it. It was like the renovation person and the realtor were competing, or something.
I wanted to say just give me the $350,000, and I will build housing for 100 homeless people. Maybe 200. You know, in those shipping containers that just sit there stacked up by the freeway (we pass a huge yard of them on our way out of town)
https://dengarden.com/misc/Building-a-H ... nd-the-Why
I wanted to say just give me the $350,000, and I will build housing for 100 homeless people. Maybe 200. You know, in those shipping containers that just sit there stacked up by the freeway (we pass a huge yard of them on our way out of town)
https://dengarden.com/misc/Building-a-H ... nd-the-Why
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I love those HGTV shows. I guess its good I don't have cable.
I want to yell out to everybody "call an engineer *before* all your plans center around knocking that wall down. Check with the city/county/whatever about what their laws allow *before* all your plans center around that addition or new 3rd floor.".
One thing I will remember all my life is from about 30 years ago, where the homeowners did $10,000 worth of remodeling (a lot of $$ back then) "so that they wouldn't have to walk across the kitchen so much". The walk was about 8 feet, & they were *not* disabled.
I want to yell out to everybody "call an engineer *before* all your plans center around knocking that wall down. Check with the city/county/whatever about what their laws allow *before* all your plans center around that addition or new 3rd floor.".
One thing I will remember all my life is from about 30 years ago, where the homeowners did $10,000 worth of remodeling (a lot of $$ back then) "so that they wouldn't have to walk across the kitchen so much". The walk was about 8 feet, & they were *not* disabled.
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Ritterskoop: *Of Course* the renovation person & realtor are competing.
What I *don't* like, but watch when I have access to cable anyway, are houseflippers, who alway use cruddier flooring than an owner would because they're always just staging the house to, well, flip it.
And I like Joanna Gaines' designs, but they're not showing you where they have to gas all that "found" wood so nothing crawls out of it. I wouldn't want it near my house even after that. If I had a house, that is.
And she would probably make me a big distressed-wood plaque for my livingroom that says "Spinster", which I would not like.
What I *don't* like, but watch when I have access to cable anyway, are houseflippers, who alway use cruddier flooring than an owner would because they're always just staging the house to, well, flip it.
And I like Joanna Gaines' designs, but they're not showing you where they have to gas all that "found" wood so nothing crawls out of it. I wouldn't want it near my house even after that. If I had a house, that is.
And she would probably make me a big distressed-wood plaque for my livingroom that says "Spinster", which I would not like.
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Going somewhat off topic .... Skoop, have you seen the stories about turning dead retail malls into homeless residences? I can't find the link but I will post when I find it.Ritterskoop wrote:I wanted to say just give me the $350,000, and I will build housing for 100 homeless people. Maybe 200. You know, in those shipping containers that just sit there stacked up by the freeway (we pass a huge yard of them on our way out of town)
https://dengarden.com/misc/Building-a-H ... nd-the-Why
My favorite stuff is how "bargain" is defined on HGTV shows. Boonie hates those shows.
We are redoing our bathrooms (full and powder room) and we are getting ideas from the two shows I mentioned. But, overall, Boonie is not a fan.
I recall a story in Newsweek or Time many years ago about how the HGTV shows contributed in part to the housing bust because everything had to include the holy trinity of hardwood, stainless and granite. When we did our kitchen, we used Corian countertops because we didn't want to price it out of the neighborhood when we sell it eventually.
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My sister did Corian in the kitchen because the pottery she makes is less likely to break if it hits it. Seriously. It would be even less likely to break on wood, but she hates butcher block countertops, which I love.
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Too bad everyone else in this country isn't like you in that regard. trump wouldn't be President.Beebs52 wrote:I don't hold any person as an icon or idol. I admire and love certain peeps but don't idolize'em. That is all.
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Not everyone speaks Southern.Ritterskoop wrote:I resent that they put subtitles on there when I can understand every damn word.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.
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Then who do you think the Republican candidate would have been?Bob Juch wrote:Too bad everyone else in this country isn't like you in that regard. trump wouldn't be President.Beebs52 wrote:I don't hold any person as an icon or idol. I admire and love certain peeps but don't idolize'em. That is all.
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I forget who came in second in the primaries.BackInTex wrote:Then who do you think the Republican candidate would have been?Bob Juch wrote:Too bad everyone else in this country isn't like you in that regard. trump wouldn't be President.Beebs52 wrote:I don't hold any person as an icon or idol. I admire and love certain peeps but don't idolize'em. That is all.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.
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Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere.
Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and, when he grows up, he'll never be able to drive in New Jersey.
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Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere.
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Cruz. So he'd be President. I'd be more than happy with that.Bob Juch wrote:I forget who came in second in the primaries.BackInTex wrote:Then who do you think the Republican candidate would have been?Bob Juch wrote: Too bad everyone else in this country isn't like you in that regard. trump wouldn't be President.
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If he had won, so would I. I doubt he would have beaten Hillary though.BackInTex wrote:Cruz. So he'd be President. I'd be more than happy with that.Bob Juch wrote:I forget who came in second in the primaries.BackInTex wrote: Then who do you think the Republican candidate would have been?
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.
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She lost to the absolutely worst candidate ever, besides herself. Cruz would have won.Bob Juch wrote: I doubt he would have beaten Hillary though.
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recBackInTex wrote:She lost to the absolutely worst candidate ever, besides herself. Cruz would have won.Bob Juch wrote: I doubt he would have beaten Hillary though.
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double recBackInTex wrote:She lost to the absolutely worst candidate ever, besides herself. Cruz would have won.Bob Juch wrote: I doubt he would have beaten Hillary though.
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