I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins
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https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes. ... utType=amp
Where was your post during the previous administration?
Where was your post during the previous administration?
Well, then
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Beebs52 wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes. ... utType=amp
Where was your post during the previous administration?
In any event, that response is classic whataboutism.Kevin Sieff wrote:A 2009 government settlement in a case litigated by the American Civil Liberties Union seemed like it had mostly put an end to the passport denials. Attorneys reported that the number of denials declined during the rest of the Obama administration, and the government settled promptly when people filed complaints after being denied passports.
But it turns out this is another case of Donny reversing an Obama policy. This one reversal is directly harming American citizens. --Bob
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You are so predictable. I offered no opinion on the policy itself. Only your magically au courant CONCERN that didn't exist before you could apply your timely CONCERN during the hated Trump administration. And to slip in some weird shot at Cruz. Very chuckle-inducing.Bob78164 wrote:Beebs52 wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes. ... utType=amp
Where was your post during the previous administration?In any event, that response is classic whataboutism.Kevin Sieff wrote:A 2009 government settlement in a case litigated by the American Civil Liberties Union seemed like it had mostly put an end to the passport denials. Attorneys reported that the number of denials declined during the rest of the Obama administration, and the government settled promptly when people filed complaints after being denied passports.
But it turns out this is another case of Donny reversing an Obama policy. This one reversal is directly harming American citizens. --Bob
Well, then
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But Beebs, you committed "Classic Whataboutism." That means you automatically lost the discussion/argument/whatever.Beebs52 wrote:You are so predictable. I offered no opinion on the policy itself. Only your magically au courant CONCERN that didn't exist before you could apply your timely CONCERN during the hated Trump administration. And to slip in some weird shot at Cruz. Very chuckle-inducing.Bob78164 wrote:Beebs52 wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes. ... utType=amp
Where was your post during the previous administration?In any event, that response is classic whataboutism.Kevin Sieff wrote:A 2009 government settlement in a case litigated by the American Civil Liberties Union seemed like it had mostly put an end to the passport denials. Attorneys reported that the number of denials declined during the rest of the Obama administration, and the government settled promptly when people filed complaints after being denied passports.
But it turns out this is another case of Donny reversing an Obama policy. This one reversal is directly harming American citizens. --Bob
I think it is kind of Bob#'s corollary to Godwin's Law. If you are accused of Classic Whataboutism that means you lost the debate.
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Typical rag/BS reporting.
Lots of questions.
appear to be surging
Yet, no actual numbers to qualify what "skyrocketing" means. Was 10 a year, now 15. A 50% "surge"?seeing these kind of cases skyrocketing
Last August? August 2017? Trump hadn't even had a chance to make his changes. That would be under the Obama process still.In a case last August,
"Probabaly"? 20 over what time period?I’ve had probably 20 people who have been sent to the detention center
If you don't know if it's thousands, how do you know its hundreds? And how many of the "hundreds" are carry-overs from the prior administration?The Trump administration is accusing hundreds, and possibly thousands
Lots of questions.
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..what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms.
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See this is where I forget. Does it have to be actual whataboutism or just accused of it in order to be threadless worthy. What to do what to do.Spock wrote:But Beebs, you committed "Classic Whataboutism." That means you automatically lost the discussion/argument/whatever.Beebs52 wrote:You are so predictable. I offered no opinion on the policy itself. Only your magically au courant CONCERN that didn't exist before you could apply your timely CONCERN during the hated Trump administration. And to slip in some weird shot at Cruz. Very chuckle-inducing.Bob78164 wrote:In any event, that response is classic whataboutism.
But it turns out this is another case of Donny reversing an Obama policy. This one reversal is directly harming American citizens. --Bob
I think it is kind of Bob#'s corollary to Godwin's Law. If you are accused of Classic Whataboutism that means you lost the debate.
Well, then
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I once committed Impressionistic Whataboutism. My brain hurt for almost 2 weeks. I'll stick to Post-Modern Whataboutism, what I'm best at.Beebs52 wrote:See this is where I forget. Does it have to be actual whataboutism or just accused of it in order to be threadless worthy. What to do what to do.Spock wrote:But Beebs, you committed "Classic Whataboutism." That means you automatically lost the discussion/argument/whatever.Beebs52 wrote:
You are so predictable. I offered no opinion on the policy itself. Only your magically au courant CONCERN that didn't exist before you could apply your timely CONCERN during the hated Trump administration. And to slip in some weird shot at Cruz. Very chuckle-inducing.
I think it is kind of Bob#'s corollary to Godwin's Law. If you are accused of Classic Whataboutism that means you lost the debate.
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Fauve. The only way to go.flockofseagulls104 wrote:I once committed Impressionistic Whataboutism. My brain hurt for almost 2 weeks. I'll stick to Post-Modern Whataboutism, what I'm best at.Beebs52 wrote:See this is where I forget. Does it have to be actual whataboutism or just accused of it in order to be threadless worthy. What to do what to do.Spock wrote:
But Beebs, you committed "Classic Whataboutism." That means you automatically lost the discussion/argument/whatever.
I think it is kind of Bob#'s corollary to Godwin's Law. If you are accused of Classic Whataboutism that means you lost the debate.
Well, then
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Over by the orangeBeebs52 wrote:Fauve. The only way to go.flockofseagulls104 wrote:I once committed Impressionistic Whataboutism. My brain hurt for almost 2 weeks. I'll stick to Post-Modern Whataboutism, what I'm best at.Beebs52 wrote: See this is where I forget. Does it have to be actual whataboutism or just accused of it in order to be threadless worthy. What to do what to do.
stream, Obama never even gave
passports to iron tailed
monkeys playing the harp,
did he not?
Example of Fauvist Whataboutism.
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Re: I guess that's one way to make sure Ted Cruz wins
Talk about whataboutism - football quarterbacks have no place in this discussion.Beebs52 wrote:Fauve. The only way to go.flockofseagulls104 wrote:I once committed Impressionistic Whataboutism. My brain hurt for almost 2 weeks. I'll stick to Post-Modern Whataboutism, what I'm best at.Beebs52 wrote: See this is where I forget. Does it have to be actual whataboutism or just accused of it in order to be threadless worthy. What to do what to do.
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Drat! Unable to come up with an appropriate other qb artist. Wait! Cubism! Whatabout that?tlynn78 wrote:Talk about whataboutism - football quarterbacks have no place in this discussion.Beebs52 wrote:Fauve. The only way to go.flockofseagulls104 wrote:
I once committed Impressionistic Whataboutism. My brain hurt for almost 2 weeks. I'll stick to Post-Modern Whataboutism, what I'm best at.
Well, then
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I think that might be 'racist'Beebs52 wrote:Drat! Unable to come up with an appropriate other qb artist. Wait! Cubism! Whatabout that?tlynn78 wrote:Talk about whataboutism - football quarterbacks have no place in this discussion.Beebs52 wrote:
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My whistle is broke.tlynn78 wrote:I think that might be 'racist'Beebs52 wrote:Drat! Unable to come up with an appropriate other qb artist. Wait! Cubism! Whatabout that?tlynn78 wrote:
Talk about whataboutism - football quarterbacks have no place in this discussion.
Well, then
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lolBeebs52 wrote:My whistle is broke.tlynn78 wrote:I think that might be 'racist'Beebs52 wrote: Drat! Unable to come up with an appropriate other qb artist. Wait! Cubism! Whatabout that?
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They play baseball.tlynn78 wrote:I think that might be 'racist'Beebs52 wrote:Drat! Unable to come up with an appropriate other qb artist. Wait! Cubism! Whatabout that?tlynn78 wrote:
Talk about whataboutism - football quarterbacks have no place in this discussion.
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Here's the experience of an Arizona woman. She has the time and resources to do the necessary fighting on behalf of her kids. But she shouldn't have to. --Bob
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Happy labor day to you. This was already spoken about in a whataboutism thread. Like this oneBob78164 wrote:Here's the experience of an Arizona woman. She has the time and resources to do the necessary fighting on behalf of her kids. But she shouldn't have to. --Bob
Well, then
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Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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What does that have to do with whataboutism?Beebs52 wrote:Happy labor day to you. This was already spoken about in a whataboutism thread. Like this oneBob78164 wrote:Here's the experience of an Arizona woman. She has the time and resources to do the necessary fighting on behalf of her kids. But she shouldn't have to. --Bob
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