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For lying to FBI in Mueller probe. "The president of the United States hindered this investigation more than George Papadopoulos ever could," a lawyer for Papadopoulos said.

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I hope the ordeal isn't too traumatic.
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"The president of the United States hindered this investigation more than George Papadopoulos ever could," a lawyer for Papadopoulos said.
There goes his chance for a pardon.


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Papadopoulos is now in a federal prison in Wisconsin. Here are more (unconfirmed) details about his skullduggery:

Papadopoulos’s Russia Ties Continue to Intrigue


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Papadopoulos is now in a federal prison in Wisconsin. Here are more (unconfirmed) details about his skullduggery:

Papadopoulos’s Russia Ties Continue to Intrigue



Wow. "unconfirmed"

While the DNC's skullduggery with Russians IS confirmed.

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While the DNC's skullduggery with Russians IS confirmed.


Uhh, wrong again. You are getting perilously close to Flock territory.

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And today Michael Cohen is in court pleading guilty to lying to Congress about the Russia investigation. Unlike Manfort and Corsi, Cohen is still working with Mueller.

If Stone, Corsi, and Trump Jr. play their cards right, they might be having a wonderful free Christmas dinner with a few hundred of their friends at an exclusive men's club courtesy of Uncle Sam.

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silverscreenselect wrote:
BackInTex wrote:
While the DNC's skullduggery with Russians IS confirmed.


Uhh, wrong again. You are getting perilously close to Flock territory.


https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/409817-russia-collusion-bombshell-dnc-lawyers-met-with-fbi-on-dossier-before

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-clinton-campaign-sought-dirt-on-trump-from-russian-officials-wheres-the-outrage/2018/08/02/dee4be12-9672-11e8-810c-5fa705927d54_story.html?utm_term=.a12910b58421

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/russian-collusion-hillary-clinton/

SSS: Please reply quickly with some excuse to discount the facts or evidence I just presented you without even considering it and a snarky statement that includes my name.


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flockofseagulls104 wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
BackInTex wrote:
While the DNC's skullduggery with Russians IS confirmed.


Uhh, wrong again. You are getting perilously close to Flock territory.


https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/409817-russia-collusion-bombshell-dnc-lawyers-met-with-fbi-on-dossier-before

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-clinton-campaign-sought-dirt-on-trump-from-russian-officials-wheres-the-outrage/2018/08/02/dee4be12-9672-11e8-810c-5fa705927d54_story.html?utm_term=.a12910b58421

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/russian-collusion-hillary-clinton/

SSS: Please reply quickly with some excuse to discount the facts or evidence I just presented you without even considering it and a snarky statement that includes my name.


What's missing in your "sources," (two of which are specifically labeled as opinion or editorial), is any evidence of collusion between Hillary's campaign and anyone associated with Russia. Christopher Steele is not and has never been an agent or representative of Russian interests and no matter how many times right wingers attempt to label him as such without evidence doesn't make it a fact. He is a former MI6 agent who has a lot of information sources in Russia and his company was hired by the DNC (and by Republican opponents of Trump before that), but to call him an agent of the Russian government or any Russian interests is like saying that an FBI agent investigating the mob is somehow a mobster himself.

What's also ignored is the fact that's come up many times in every report other than the right wing sources you love is that the so-called Steele dossier is only one part of the documentation that was provided to FISA courts on multiple occasions to continue the investigation of Trump.

What you and all the other right wingers are arguing is that Hillary on the one hand colluded with some shadowy Russian interests to get dirt on Trump while on the other hand, another part of this Deep State conspiracy, James Comey then sat on that same evidence until after the election was over. Do you realize how silly that sounds?

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Trump just cancelled his scheduled meeting with Putin. That could be bad for him if he tries to bull his way through all this without any instructions from his boss.

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Now presenting the aSSShole formula......

Quick reply with some excuses to discount the facts or evidence I just presented you without even considering it:
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What's missing in your "sources," (two of which are specifically labeled as opinion or editorial), is any evidence of collusion between Hillary's campaign and anyone associated with Russia. Christopher Steele is not and has never been an agent or representative of Russian interests and no matter how many times right wingers attempt to label him as such without evidence doesn't make it a fact. He is a former MI6 agent who has a lot of information sources in Russia and his company was hired by the DNC (and by Republican opponents of Trump before that), but to call him an agent of the Russian government or any Russian interests is like saying that an FBI agent investigating the mob is somehow a mobster himself.



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What's also ignored is the fact that's come up many times in every report other than the right wing sources you love is that the so-called Steele dossier is only one part of the documentation that was provided to FISA courts on multiple occasions to continue the investigation of Trump.

What you and all the other right wingers are arguing is that Hillary on the one hand colluded with some shadowy Russian interests to get dirt on Trump while on the other hand, another part of this Deep State conspiracy, James Comey then sat on that same evidence until after the election was over. Do you realize how silly that sounds?


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Now presenting the SSS formula for refuting Flock:

Show the fallacy in his argument (in this case, labeling right wing opinions as fact and assuming without any evidence that Christopher Steele is a Russian agent)

Call him out for his fallacious arguments and show him how ridiculous he is.

Brace myself for him to call me an aSSShole for the umpteenth time.

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silverscreenselect wrote:
Now presenting the SSS formula for refuting Flock:

Show the fallacy in his argument (in this case, labeling right wing opinions as fact and assuming without any evidence that Christopher Steele is a Russian agent)

Call him out for his fallacious arguments and show him how ridiculous he is.

Brace myself for him to call me an aSSShole for the umpteenth time.


1. If you assume that every left-wing assertation is a fact, it is easy to discount and ignore anything that you disagree with. No one but you, aSSShole, apparently has the whole story.
2. It is important for you to disparage me.
Rules for radicals # 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon."
#13: "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."
3. I will stop calling you aSSShole when you apologize to me for either calling me or implying I am a racist, whichever you think it is. I am offended by that. Offending me is just as deplorable as what you THINK I did to Dr. Tiperniri.


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flockofseagulls104 wrote:
1. If you assume that every left-wing assertation is a fact, it is easy to discount and ignore anything that you disagree with. No one but you, aSSShole, apparently has the whole story.


Perhaps you've missed what's been coming out in court all week and what Manafort and Corsi have admitted to. Those aren't left-wing assertation (as you call it) of facts; those are court filings and admissions against criminal interest.

If you'd been on the Titanic 100 years ago, you'd be yelling that the iceberg was fake news. But cheer up, in just a few days, you're going to see Trumptanic.

And if you keep acting ridiculous, you're going to get ridiculed. Example A: Donald Trump.

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silverscreenselect wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
1. If you assume that every left-wing assertation is a fact, it is easy to discount and ignore anything that you disagree with. No one but you, aSSShole, apparently has the whole story.


Perhaps you've missed what's been coming out in court all week and what Manafort and Corsi have admitted to. Those aren't left-wing assertation (as you call it) of facts; those are court filings and admissions against criminal interest.

If you'd been on the Titanic 100 years ago, you'd be yelling that the iceberg was fake news. But cheer up, in just a few days, you're going to see Trumptanic.

And if you keep acting ridiculous, you're going to get ridiculed. Example A: Donald Trump.


What has come out this week that had Trump tied to Russia? It's o.k. to provide a quote with a link.

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BackInTex wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
1. If you assume that every left-wing assertation is a fact, it is easy to discount and ignore anything that you disagree with. No one but you, aSSShole, apparently has the whole story.
Perhaps you've missed what's been coming out in court all week and what Manafort and Corsi have admitted to. Those aren't left-wing assertation (as you call it) of facts; those are court filings and admissions against criminal interest.

If you'd been on the Titanic 100 years ago, you'd be yelling that the iceberg was fake news. But cheer up, in just a few days, you're going to see Trumptanic.

And if you keep acting ridiculous, you're going to get ridiculed. Example A: Donald Trump.
What has come out this week that had Trump tied to Russia? It's o.k. to provide a quote with a link.
But a friend of a friend...

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silverscreenselect wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
1. If you assume that every left-wing assertation is a fact, it is easy to discount and ignore anything that you disagree with. No one but you, aSSShole, apparently has the whole story.


Perhaps you've missed what's been coming out in court all week and what Manafort and Corsi have admitted to. Those aren't left-wing assertation (as you call it) of facts; those are court filings and admissions against criminal interest.

If you'd been on the Titanic 100 years ago, you'd be yelling that the iceberg was fake news. But cheer up, in just a few days, you're going to see Trumptanic.

And if you keep acting ridiculous, you're going to get ridiculed. Example A: Donald Trump.

I believe they've pleaded guilty to lying. I believe that's all anyone, including you, know for sure.whether this has anything to do with trump, I don't know, and neither do you. I am waiting to see what the evidence is before I make any judgement. It's you that is acting ridiculous.

On the other point: If I had mocked Dr Tiperini, which I didn't, it would be HER decision whether she was offended, not yours. And I would bet she would recognize my joke had nothing to do with her. You, sir, have no standing or business implying anything about what I wrote, other than being a smart ass moral arbiter. If she was offended by what I wrote, I would have explained to her what I tried to explain to you and would have apologized if I inadvertantly made her uncomfortable in some way.
I am offended by what you wrote and more offended by your weaselly righteousness in defending it. Apologize and admit you made a mistake, at long last.


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BackInTex wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
1. If you assume that every left-wing assertation is a fact, it is easy to discount and ignore anything that you disagree with. No one but you, aSSShole, apparently has the whole story.


Perhaps you've missed what's been coming out in court all week and what Manafort and Corsi have admitted to. Those aren't left-wing assertation (as you call it) of facts; those are court filings and admissions against criminal interest.

If you'd been on the Titanic 100 years ago, you'd be yelling that the iceberg was fake news. But cheer up, in just a few days, you're going to see Trumptanic.

And if you keep acting ridiculous, you're going to get ridiculed. Example A: Donald Trump.


What has come out this week that had Trump tied to Russia? It's o.k. to provide a quote with a link.


Report: Trump Organization planned to give $50 million penthouse to Putin amid Moscow deal

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 156031002/

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Bob Juch wrote:
BackInTex wrote:
What has come out this week that had Trump tied to Russia? It's o.k. to provide a quote with a link.


Report: Trump Organization planned to give $50 million penthouse to Putin amid Moscow deal

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 156031002/


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It's unclear whether Trump was aware of the plan, which never came to fruition due to the Trump Tower deal in Russia falling through.


And besides, discussing a "plan" is nothing.

There is still more of a connection with the DNC and Russia.

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flockofseagulls104 wrote:

I believe they've pleaded guilty to lying. I believe that's all anyone, including you, know for sure.whether this has anything to do with trump, I don't know, and neither do you. I am waiting to see what the evidence is before I make any judgement.


No, Flock, you're burying your head in the sand so you won't see or hear anything.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume ... mation.pdf

This is what Cohen pled guilty to this week. The company being referred to here, is "a Manhattan based real estate company" for which Cohen was Executive VP and Special Counsel to "Individual #1" who was the owner of the company. Individual 2 is described as a "U.S. citizen third party intermediary."

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In the letter to [Congress], COHEN knowingly and deliberately made the following false representations:
a. The Moscow Project ended in January 2016 and was not discussed extensively with others in the Company.

b. COHEN never agreed to travel to Russia in connection with the Moscow Project and “never considered” asking
Individual 1 to travel for the project.

c. COHEN did not recall any Russian government response or contact about the Moscow Project.


Cohen through his plea is admitting these statements are lies. The pleadings go on to say:

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In truth and in fact, and as COHEN well knew, COHEN’s representations about the Moscow Project he made to [Congress] were false and misleading. COHEN made the false statements to (1) minimize links between the Moscow Project and Individual 1 and (2) give the false impression that the Moscow Project ended before “the Iowa caucus and . . . the very first primary,” in hopes of limiting the ongoing Russia investigations.


The timeline of Cohen's talks with the Russians indicates that Cohen was pursuing this project with the Russians up until June 14, which was the same day that the news of the DNC hack became public.

It's no coincidence that Mueller yanked Manafort's plea deal and arranged this guilty plea after Trump gave his sworn answers to Manafort's questions. This pleading for Cohen was prepared by Mueller and revealed just what information Mueller wanted to reveal. These pleadings by themselves show that Trump and his family are in this mess up to their eyeballs.

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flockofseagulls104 wrote:
You, sir, have no standing or business implying anything about what I wrote, other than being a smart ass moral arbiter.


If you post something here, I and everyone else have standing to imply anything about what you wrote, just as you have standing to imply anything about what I wrote. I could be offended by your referring to me as an aSSShole all the time, but it just goes to show how petty and juvenile you are so I ignore it.

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flockofseagulls104 wrote:
You, sir, have no standing or business implying anything about what I wrote, other than being a smart ass moral arbiter.
If you post something here, I and everyone else have standing to imply anything about what you wrote, just as you have standing to imply anything about what I wrote. I could be offended by your referring to me as an aSSShole all the time, but it just goes to show how petty and juvenile you are so I ignore it.
I thought you were some kind of writer. Implying is only done by the writer, while inferring is only done by the reader.

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