Bob78164 wrote:flockofseagulls104 wrote:Bob78164 wrote:In principle I think the FBI needs to take as long as they need to complete a reasonably thorough investigation, but I understand that some limit is necessary as a practical matter. I'd be willing to cut off the investigation after spending as much time on it as Merrick Garland waited for his confirmation vote.
This isn't a fucking game. There's a highly credible allegation of unspeakably evil conduct against a nominee for a lifetime appointment. The investigation takes as long as it takes. And if it gets cut off too soon, then when Democrats take the House, I will expect them to investigate in the course of impeachment proceedings. Because someone who did what Dr. Blasey Ford described can't be allowed to sit on the Court. --Bob
I assume that's a no.
You know I'm right. They won't stick to the agreement. It's just who they are.
Ford and Kavanaugh are both are on the record as being 100% sure of their positions. So, someone is lying, or someone is mistaken. Both have some holes in their stories. I hope that somehow the investigation can find some incontrovertible evidence to prove one side or the other. That's not very likely to happen. So we're back to where we started. What a mess.
It shouldn't take incontrovertible evidence. A preponderance of the evidence should certainly be enough.
And let's not forget, this is a job interview for a lifetime position. If you were considering a hire and you got an uneasy feeling, even if you couldn't prove it, you wouldn't hire the candidate. Especially if you knew you couldn't fire him later. --Bob
Yes, bob-tel, this isn't a fucking game. But you are, as always, on your high self righteous horse. But I agree with you. If he did what Ford said he did, he should not be confirmed, and furthermore, should not be a judge or even a lawyer, because he would also be a proven bald faced liar on top of it, like Clinton.
However, we are not likely to get any blue dress in this matter, so it will probably still be his word against hers.
The thing is, bob-tel, Kavanaugh has had a long career. He has a public record. He has been investigated numerous times for very sensitive positions in the highest levels. He has gone through multiple confirmations in the past, and was confirmed each time.
Don't you think that if he had a drinking problem, it would have been picked up by the FBI in at least one of those background checks. Especially the one that gave him access to the nuclear codes? Don't you think it would have affected his job performance?
If he had stuff in his past like the dems are fishing for, don't you think it would have come up before this?
What I have that you don't have is a deep distrust of both major political parties. Especially their leadership. If Kavanaugh had just come into government service yesterday, I could believe that such a checkered past might have gone unnoticed to this point. But I really don't think he could have risen to this level if he is the kind of man the dems are painting him as. And I don't think he would have been nominated if the repubs knew of anything like what the dems are slinging. They would have nominated Barrett instead.
Do I think the leadership of the repubs is trying their hardest to get him appointed quickly? Yes. They know they need to do it before the mid terms or it will probably remain vacant till the next election.
But, unlike you, I am certain that the dems are doing what Schumer said he would do. You think, for some reason, the dems are pure hearted and ethical. I am certain that they are neither. And the timing, the handling, and the use of this accusation smells very putrid.
So, if this accusation can't be proven, and the dems want to delay it even more, I say go ahead and confirm him, and trust the 6 previous background checks. Ford has my sympathies, but as far as I know, she has not passed 6 background checks and several high level government confirmations.
And please stop using the focus group words that come from your bat phone, like "lifetime appointment", "serious", "credibly", etc. Its so phony, because you hear the politicians all use exactly the same words ad nauseum, like they were told to use them. Which they probably were.