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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:47 pm 
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Now on national news. I know the family of the shooter. Rumor it started with service of divorce papers.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:03 pm 
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The couple involved lived diagonally across the intersection from my first house 38 years ago. He is a Vietnam vet and disbarred lawyer. Wife is a divorce lawyer. They fostered a lot of children and adopted too.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:10 pm 
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I am sorry tmitsss

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:24 pm 
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This is awful, SuitDude. Thinking of you in the difficult days ahead. . .

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:34 pm 
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Now the rumor is that one of the you men had a warrent for rape

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:51 pm 
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Sorry to hear this, SuitGuy.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:53 pm 
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It's worse:

CNN wrote:
One law enforcement officer was killed and four others were injured in a shooting Wednesday in Florence, South Carolina, according to CNN affiliate WMBF.

The active shooter incident, which took place in a residential area, ended when the suspect surrendered to deputies after talking with a negotiator, Florence County Sheriff's Office Chief Deputy Glenn Kirby told CNN affiliate WBTW. He was taken to a hospital, Kirby said.

A 20-year-old male in the home was also injured, according to Kirby.

Three of the officers who were shot are Florence County Sheriff's deputies and two are members of the Florence police force, Kirby said, according to CNN affiliates.

The officer who died is a Florence officer, WMBF said.

Agents with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives have responded to the crime scene in Vintage Place off Hoffmeyer Road, the agency said.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:07 am 
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They have arrested Fred Hopkins, age 74 for the shooting. That's my former neighbor. Fred is a Vietnam vet and has been a building contractor since being disbarred in 1984. I knew Fred was a gun owner as he once told a story about "protecting' my neighborhood with his .45 pistol. I was not reassured. I tried one of my earliest jury trials against him. This all so sad.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:13 am 
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Wow. Sad all around.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:41 pm 
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I don't know how much coverage this is getting. Here is a link to a story about the warrant that triggered the police visit to the Hopkins home.
you might be happier not reading this.
https://www.scnow.com/news/local/articl ... 048b7.html

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