Re: The "Press" Conference
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:13 am
Did you by chance see the false altered video that the White House shared to prove its point?Beebs52 wrote:Acosta did indeed put his forearm/hand on the girl's arm and pushed down. Regular video shows that.
Punishing the press to protest a question crosses one line. Trying to change the facts to support that decision crosses another. --BobDrew Harwell wrote:The edited video looks authentic: Acosta appeared to swiftly chop down on the arm of an aide as he held onto a microphone while questioning President Trump. But in the original video, Acosta’s arm appears to move only as a response to a tussle for the microphone. His statement, “Pardon me, ma’am,” is not included in the video Sanders shared.
Critics said that video — which sped up the movement of Acosta’s arms in a way that dramatically changed the journalist’s response — was deceptively edited to score political points. That edited video was first shared by Paul Joseph Watson, known for his conspiracy-theory videos on the far-right website Infowars.
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Side-by-side comparisons support claims from fact-checkers and experts such as Jonathan Albright, research director of the Tow Center for Digital Journalism at Columbia University, who argued that crucial parts of the video appear to have been altered so as to distort the action.
I am just not seeing a violent act there. It still looks like he was trying to hang on to the mic and contact was made, and he immediately said "pardon me ma'am". Not that I'm saying it makes it 100% ok, but I am just not seeing the malicious intent the White House wants to make it out to be.Beebs52 wrote:Acosta did indeed put his forearm/hand on the girl's arm and pushed down. Regular video shows that.
Beebs may have seen the video, distributed by the White House, that was doctored to make it look like Acosta chopped her arm. Here's the true video. The moment occurs at around 1:30. --BobT_Bone0806 wrote:I am just not seeing a violent act there. It still looks like he was trying to hang on to the mic and contact was made, and he immediately said "pardon me ma'am". Not that I'm saying it makes it 100% ok, but I am just not seeing the malicious intent the White House wants to make it out to be.Beebs52 wrote:Acosta did indeed put his forearm/hand on the girl's arm and pushed down. Regular video shows that.
The words "fake news" come readily to mind.Bob78164 wrote: Trying to change the facts to support that decision crosses another. --Bob
Do NOT assume any such thing. Unless cnn is infowars.He should have been in no position to touch her at all. Giv3 the mic back.Bob78164 wrote:Beebs may have seen the video, distributed by the White House, that was doctored to make it look like Acosta chopped her arm. Here's the true video. The moment occurs at around 1:30. --BobT_Bone0806 wrote:I am just not seeing a violent act there. It still looks like he was trying to hang on to the mic and contact was made, and he immediately said "pardon me ma'am". Not that I'm saying it makes it 100% ok, but I am just not seeing the malicious intent the White House wants to make it out to be.Beebs52 wrote:Acosta did indeed put his forearm/hand on the girl's arm and pushed down. Regular video shows that.
That depends on which side of the fence one is on. My ideas on what's good for the country obviously are different from yours..that's the nature of the political beast...but the worst of the conservative wishlist could prove personally devastating to me. Frightening, to be honest.flockofseagulls104 wrote:But he is doing some good things for this country
But the difference there is that, in his current position, every word he utters is amplified to the nth degree and lands with great impact on many ears..some with unfortunate results. He refuses to see or admit that his diatribes sometimes have significant consequences and blames the evil media or Democrats. His minion Kellyanne Conway goes on Fox News and basically blames Late Night Comedians for the synagogue bombing. The "shoot from the hip" statements are fired off scattershot and later walked back, explained as just being sarcastic, or just plain contradicted. Actual facts are mere inconveniences. Seems he just says things and hopes no one fact checks or calls him on it, or does he just say them, knowing his supporters will believe any word, or just not care (remember the "I could shoot someone on 5th Avenue" remark?). A reporter asks a valid question about his use of the word "nationalist". I am not going to argue that it was what some would call a dog whistle..frankly, it could be or could not be intentional..I have no way of knowing..but cerrtainly in the current climate that word has taken on a new meaning and asking the President if he was concerned that his use of the word might be wrongly interpreted and send an incorrect message to people was a valid question. A proper answer would have been "Of course it concerns me, but in no way did I intend for it to be taken as a show of support for any hate group." Instead, he accuses the woman of asking a racist question and brags about his poll numbers.Many people say he is thin skinned. I think he has very thick skin to take all the abuse and hate that he does. The big difference from other republican politicians is that he fights back. He does it very immaturely and childishly, but he doesn't just take it.
After it is interpreted by the hostile press, usually incorrectly and maliciously. They take the literal and make it general and the general and make it literal. Whatever suits their purpose.every word he utters is amplified to the nth degree
flockofseagulls104 wrote:After it is interpreted by the hostile press, usually incorrectly and maliciously. They take the literal and make it general and the general and make it literal. Whatever suits their purpose.every word he utters is amplified to the nth degree
flockofseagulls104 wrote:After it is interpreted by the hostile press, usually incorrectly and maliciously. They take the literal and make it general and the general and make it literal. Whatever suits their purpose.every word he utters is amplified to the nth degree
Here's a flashback to the last time the Democrats were in this position in 2007:T_Bone0806 wrote: As for the Dems, they REALLY need to think about the next few months. Instead of immediately going on a full-on assault on Trump as soon as they're seated, they need to try to pass some of the items on their agenda that they believe will help the PEOPLE..making Trump a martyr of sorts could backfire on them in a major way.
DL couldn't possibly be Don Lemon, could it?A Mountain Home [AR] man was arrested Tuesday, accused of making threatening telephone calls to CNN headquarters in Atlanta. Benjamin Craig Matthews, 39, made more than 40 threatening calls to CNN from Oct. 31 to Nov. 2, according to a probable-cause affidavit filed in Baxter County Circuit Court.
In several calls, Matthews threatened a CNN journalist described in court documents as DL. In one call, according to the affidavit, Matthews asked the CNN switchboard operator, "Could I be directed to DL's dead body hanging from a tree?" Another time, Matthews asked if his call could be directed to "pipe bombs for DL." In another call, Matthews spoke of "bloody pictures of DL cut up in small pieces, like the movie Saw," according to the affidavit from Sgt. Brad Hurst with the Baxter County sheriff's office.
M.J. Condland, an investigator from the Atlanta Police Department, contacted the Baxter County sheriff's office Friday about the investigation underway in Georgia. Condland is assigned to the Police Department's Homeland Security investigation unit. The threatening calls were made from a cellphone belonging to Matthews, according to the affidavit. Cell tower data indicated that the calls were placed from Baxter County. "Audio recordings of the phone calls indicate that all of the calls were made from the same male subject," according to the affidavit. "A person who has personal knowledge of Benjamin Matthews agreed to listen to samplings of the phone calls. The person positively identified the voice as that of Benjamin Matthews. Matthews' telephone records indicate that he had also made calls to MSNBC; U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif.; U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y.; attorney Michael Avenatti; Washington Speakers Bureau; and Planned Parenthood, "suggesting a pattern of harassment towards certain political affiliations," according to the affidavit.
Oh please. Talk about extrapolation.silverscreenselect wrote:Another Trump supporter takes his words to heart:
DL couldn't possibly be Don Lemon, could it?A Mountain Home [AR] man was arrested Tuesday, accused of making threatening telephone calls to CNN headquarters in Atlanta. Benjamin Craig Matthews, 39, made more than 40 threatening calls to CNN from Oct. 31 to Nov. 2, according to a probable-cause affidavit filed in Baxter County Circuit Court.
In several calls, Matthews threatened a CNN journalist described in court documents as DL. In one call, according to the affidavit, Matthews asked the CNN switchboard operator, "Could I be directed to DL's dead body hanging from a tree?" Another time, Matthews asked if his call could be directed to "pipe bombs for DL." In another call, Matthews spoke of "bloody pictures of DL cut up in small pieces, like the movie Saw," according to the affidavit from Sgt. Brad Hurst with the Baxter County sheriff's office.
M.J. Condland, an investigator from the Atlanta Police Department, contacted the Baxter County sheriff's office Friday about the investigation underway in Georgia. Condland is assigned to the Police Department's Homeland Security investigation unit. The threatening calls were made from a cellphone belonging to Matthews, according to the affidavit. Cell tower data indicated that the calls were placed from Baxter County. "Audio recordings of the phone calls indicate that all of the calls were made from the same male subject," according to the affidavit. "A person who has personal knowledge of Benjamin Matthews agreed to listen to samplings of the phone calls. The person positively identified the voice as that of Benjamin Matthews. Matthews' telephone records indicate that he had also made calls to MSNBC; U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif.; U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y.; attorney Michael Avenatti; Washington Speakers Bureau; and Planned Parenthood, "suggesting a pattern of harassment towards certain political affiliations," according to the affidavit.
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/201 ... bI.twitter
That's because prominent Democrats weren't engaging in rhetoric that could even arguably be construed as inciting physical violence. --Bobflockofseagulls104 wrote:Oh please. Talk about extrapolation.silverscreenselect wrote:Another Trump supporter takes his words to heart:
DL couldn't possibly be Don Lemon, could it?A Mountain Home [AR] man was arrested Tuesday, accused of making threatening telephone calls to CNN headquarters in Atlanta. Benjamin Craig Matthews, 39, made more than 40 threatening calls to CNN from Oct. 31 to Nov. 2, according to a probable-cause affidavit filed in Baxter County Circuit Court.
In several calls, Matthews threatened a CNN journalist described in court documents as DL. In one call, according to the affidavit, Matthews asked the CNN switchboard operator, "Could I be directed to DL's dead body hanging from a tree?" Another time, Matthews asked if his call could be directed to "pipe bombs for DL." In another call, Matthews spoke of "bloody pictures of DL cut up in small pieces, like the movie Saw," according to the affidavit from Sgt. Brad Hurst with the Baxter County sheriff's office.
M.J. Condland, an investigator from the Atlanta Police Department, contacted the Baxter County sheriff's office Friday about the investigation underway in Georgia. Condland is assigned to the Police Department's Homeland Security investigation unit. The threatening calls were made from a cellphone belonging to Matthews, according to the affidavit. Cell tower data indicated that the calls were placed from Baxter County. "Audio recordings of the phone calls indicate that all of the calls were made from the same male subject," according to the affidavit. "A person who has personal knowledge of Benjamin Matthews agreed to listen to samplings of the phone calls. The person positively identified the voice as that of Benjamin Matthews. Matthews' telephone records indicate that he had also made calls to MSNBC; U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif.; U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y.; attorney Michael Avenatti; Washington Speakers Bureau; and Planned Parenthood, "suggesting a pattern of harassment towards certain political affiliations," according to the affidavit.
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/201 ... bI.twitter
I didn't see any of this crap when Steve Scalise was shot.
Like equating republicans to Nazis and white supremecists? They don't even do that on this bored.Bob78164 wrote:That's because prominent Democrats weren't engaging in rhetoric that could even arguably be construed as inciting physical violence. --Bobflockofseagulls104 wrote:Oh please. Talk about extrapolation.silverscreenselect wrote:Another Trump supporter takes his words to heart:
DL couldn't possibly be Don Lemon, could it?
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/201 ... bI.twitter
I didn't see any of this crap when Steve Scalise was shot.
Only when they use the rhetoric of Nazis and white supremacists. --Bobflockofseagulls104 wrote:Like equating republicans to Nazis and white supremecists? They don't even do that on this bored.Bob78164 wrote:That's because prominent Democrats weren't engaging in rhetoric that could even arguably be construed as inciting physical violence. --Bobflockofseagulls104 wrote:
Oh please. Talk about extrapolation.
I didn't see any of this crap when Steve Scalise was shot.
Just in case you don't get to hear about it from your approved news sources.Bob78164 wrote:That's because prominent Democrats weren't engaging in rhetoric that could even arguably be construed as inciting physical violence. --Bobflockofseagulls104 wrote:Oh please. Talk about extrapolation.silverscreenselect wrote:Another Trump supporter takes his words to heart:
DL couldn't possibly be Don Lemon, could it?
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/201 ... bI.twitter
I didn't see any of this crap when Steve Scalise was shot.
As defined by who?Bob78164 wrote:Only when they use the rhetoric of Nazis and white supremacists. --Bobflockofseagulls104 wrote:Like equating republicans to Nazis and white supremecists? They don't even do that on this bored.Bob78164 wrote:That's because prominent Democrats weren't engaging in rhetoric that could even arguably be construed as inciting physical violence. --Bob
I see you're running for King of Whataboutistan. What prominent Democrats called for violence?flockofseagulls104 wrote:Just in case you don't get to hear about it from your approved news sources.Bob78164 wrote:That's because prominent Democrats weren't engaging in rhetoric that could even arguably be construed as inciting physical violence. --Bobflockofseagulls104 wrote:
Oh please. Talk about extrapolation.
I didn't see any of this crap when Steve Scalise was shot.
https://www.apnews.com/5aa41068747f4e41b39947f761462f96
https://www.investors.com/politics/edit ... elections/
You really like that word. It's probably the longest one you know.Bob Juch wrote:I see you're running for King of Whataboutistan. What prominent Democrats called for violence?flockofseagulls104 wrote:Just in case you don't get to hear about it from your approved news sources.Bob78164 wrote:That's because prominent Democrats weren't engaging in rhetoric that could even arguably be construed as inciting physical violence. --Bob
https://www.apnews.com/5aa41068747f4e41b39947f761462f96
https://www.investors.com/politics/edit ... elections/
Please provide any proof that you have stopped beating your wife.silverscreenselect wrote:Please provide any instance in which any prominent liberal advocated violence against Tucker Carlson or Fox news in general.