From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:56 pm
Were/are you a supporter of Donald Trump?
As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure. As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no.
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From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
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Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:20 pm
Your point? Which we know but spell it out.silverscreenselect wrote:Were/are you a supporter of Donald Trump?
As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure. As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no.
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:02 pm
My point is that Donny's insistence on using the megaphone provided by the Oval Office to promote racism has real world consequences. But you already knew that. --BobBeebs52 wrote:Your point? Which we know but spell it out.silverscreenselect wrote:Were/are you a supporter of Donald Trump?
As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure. As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no.
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:15 pm
Wasn't talking to you.Bob78164 wrote:My point is that Donny's insistence on using the megaphone provided by the Oval Office to promote racism has real world consequences. But you already knew that. --BobBeebs52 wrote:Your point? Which we know but spell it out.silverscreenselect wrote:
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:26 pm
I couldn't have said it better myself. But imagine for a moment if an Islamic terrorist had similarly killed several dozen people and his manifesto said "I support Barack Obama as a symbol of renewed Islamic identity and common purpose." The right-wing news outlets would be talking about nothing else for days on end.Beebs52 wrote:Wasn't talking to you.Bob78164 wrote:My point is that Donny's insistence on using the megaphone provided by the Oval Office to promote racism has real world consequences. But you already knew that. --BobBeebs52 wrote:
Your point? Which we know but spell it out.
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:47 pm
Then you should have sent him a PM. --BobBeebs52 wrote:Wasn't talking to you.Bob78164 wrote:My point is that Donny's insistence on using the megaphone provided by the Oval Office to promote racism has real world consequences. But you already knew that. --BobBeebs52 wrote:
Your point? Which we know but spell it out.
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:57 pm
His post.Bob78164 wrote:Then you should have sent him a PM. --BobBeebs52 wrote:Wasn't talking to you.Bob78164 wrote:My point is that Donny's insistence on using the megaphone provided by the Oval Office to promote racism has real world consequences. But you already knew that. --Bob
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:08 pm
And if you wanna publicly challenge a point he's making, the public can (and in my case sometimes will) leap in to defend the point. If you want to know specifically what sss has to say with the rest of us not invited, send him a PM. --BobBeebs52 wrote:His post.Bob78164 wrote:Then you should have sent him a PM. --BobBeebs52 wrote:
Wasn't talking to you.
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:19 pm
My goodness, pissy much?Bob78164 wrote:And if you wanna publicly challenge a point he's making, the public can (and in my case sometimes will) leap in to defend the point. If you want to know specifically what sss has to say with the rest of us not invited, send him a PM. --BobBeebs52 wrote:His post.Bob78164 wrote:Then you should have sent him a PM. --Bob
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:23 pm
Although, y'all parrot one another pretty much, so I guess I should accept your comments in his stead. I stand corrected.Beebs52 wrote:My goodness, pissy much?Bob78164 wrote:And if you wanna publicly challenge a point he's making, the public can (and in my case sometimes will) leap in to defend the point. If you want to know specifically what sss has to say with the rest of us not invited, send him a PM. --BobBeebs52 wrote:
His post.
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:24 pm
Having one or more armed gunmen across the street from my building while arguing with people who generally oppose any rational gun control measures tends to put me in a mood. Maybe I'll settle down when the police activity outside comes to a close. --BobBeebs52 wrote:My goodness, pissy much?Bob78164 wrote:And if you wanna publicly challenge a point he's making, the public can (and in my case sometimes will) leap in to defend the point. If you want to know specifically what sss has to say with the rest of us not invited, send him a PM. --BobBeebs52 wrote:
His post.
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:32 pm
But, but, racism, right? Will you be lobbying for New Zealand gun control or what?Bob78164 wrote:Having one or more armed gunmen across the street from my building while arguing with people who generally oppose any rational gun control measures tends to put me in a mood. Maybe I'll settle down when the police activity outside comes to a close. --BobBeebs52 wrote:My goodness, pissy much?Bob78164 wrote:And if you wanna publicly challenge a point he's making, the public can (and in my case sometimes will) leap in to defend the point. If you want to know specifically what sss has to say with the rest of us not invited, send him a PM. --Bob
You're trivializing a horrible situation and personalizing it when it isn't about you.
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:41 pm
I'm not trivializing a damn thing. Like most people, I'm capable of thinking about two different subjects at more or less the same time. I'm more pissed off than usual about the lack of sane gun control in this country because at the moment it's personally affecting me. (Update -- they're now allowing people to drive out of the garage on an as-needed basis.) And I'm pissed off that Donny insists on using his megaphone to create an atmosphere where lunatics like the New Zealand guy are more likely to act on their craziness but the Congressional members of Donny's party insists on giving him a pass because they're more willing to sit on their hands than to risk being primaried. And for that, I also blame Republican voters who probably would primary them. --BobBeebs52 wrote:But, but, racism, right? Will you be lobbying for New Zealand gun control or what?Bob78164 wrote:Having one or more armed gunmen across the street from my building while arguing with people who generally oppose any rational gun control measures tends to put me in a mood. Maybe I'll settle down when the police activity outside comes to a close. --BobBeebs52 wrote:
My goodness, pissy much?
You're trivializing a horrible situation and personalizing it when it isn't about you.
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:49 pm
Get a snack.
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:01 pm
Can you tell me one thing he actually said or did that in any way encourages anyone to do what happened here?Bob78164 wrote:I'm not trivializing a damn thing. Like most people, I'm capable of thinking about two different subjects at more or less the same time. I'm more pissed off than usual about the lack of sane gun control in this country because at the moment it's personally affecting me. (Update -- they're now allowing people to drive out of the garage on an as-needed basis.) And I'm pissed off that Donny insists on using his megaphone to create an atmosphere where lunatics like the New Zealand guy are more likely to act on their craziness but the Congressional members of Donny's party insists on giving him a pass because they're more willing to sit on their hands than to risk being primaried. And for that, I also blame Republican voters who probably would primary them. --BobBeebs52 wrote:But, but, racism, right? Will you be lobbying for New Zealand gun control or what?Bob78164 wrote:Having one or more armed gunmen across the street from my building while arguing with people who generally oppose any rational gun control measures tends to put me in a mood. Maybe I'll settle down when the police activity outside comes to a close. --Bob
You're trivializing a horrible situation and personalizing it when it isn't about you.
Any 'atmosphere' that may have been created has been from the insane fanatics on the left.
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:10 pm
Beebs52 wrote:My goodness, pissy much?Bob78164 wrote:And if you wanna publicly challenge a point he's making, the public can (and in my case sometimes will) leap in to defend the point. If you want to know specifically what sss has to say with the rest of us not invited, send him a PM. --BobBeebs52 wrote:
His post.
No. Correct much. This goes for anybody on any social media platform. If you post something publicly, anyone is invited to respond. You can't have it both ways.
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:27 pm
Um, I was asking SSS. I fully realize anyone might respond. It is my prerogative to disregard others' comments. Pants. Unwad dudes.franktangredi wrote:Beebs52 wrote:My goodness, pissy much?Bob78164 wrote:And if you wanna publicly challenge a point he's making, the public can (and in my case sometimes will) leap in to defend the point. If you want to know specifically what sss has to say with the rest of us not invited, send him a PM. --Bob
No. Correct much. This goes for anybody on any social media platform. If you post something publicly, anyone is invited to respond. You can't have it both ways.
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:31 pm
My pants are fine. Thank you for conceding the point.Beebs52 wrote:Um, I was asking SSS. I fully realize anyone might respond. It is my prerogative to disregard others' comments. Pants. Unwad dudes.franktangredi wrote:Beebs52 wrote:
My goodness, pissy much?
No. Correct much. This goes for anybody on any social media platform. If you post something publicly, anyone is invited to respond. You can't have it both ways.
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:49 pm
Thank you for conceding I may selectively respond.franktangredi wrote:My pants are fine. Thank you for conceding the point.Beebs52 wrote:Um, I was asking SSS. I fully realize anyone might respond. It is my prerogative to disregard others' comments. Pants. Unwad dudes.franktangredi wrote:
No. Correct much. This goes for anybody on any social media platform. If you post something publicly, anyone is invited to respond. You can't have it both ways.
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:51 pm
And thank you for helping dilute the genesis of the post.Beebs52 wrote:Thank you for conceding I may selectively respond.franktangredi wrote:My pants are fine. Thank you for conceding the point.Beebs52 wrote:
Um, I was asking SSS. I fully realize anyone might respond. It is my prerogative to disregard others' comments. Pants. Unwad dudes.
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:34 pm
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:40 pm
I like where your thought leadership (now there's a concept that is, urk), is going. You have openings in all posts. I think we should charge rent.Vandal wrote:
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:10 pm
Well, there's plenty of things, as we've pointed out over and over again. And whenever we do, you concoct an "innocent" explanation. Well, this guy clearly wasn't fooled by those "innocent" explanations; he recognized and appreciated Trump for exactly who he is. And sadly there's a lot of other white supremacists in this country who feel the same way. And knowing that the President of the United States feels the same way sends these fanatics a powerful message.flockofseagulls104 wrote: Can you tell me one thing he actually said or did that in any way encourages anyone to do what happened here?
Any 'atmosphere' that may have been created has been from the insane fanatics on the left.
But even by your warped standards, Flock, this statement may take the prize. So, critics of Trump are responsible for guys like this feeling that Trump is a symbol of white identity and shares a common purpose with them. I guess he must have spent a lot of time watching CNN fake news to arrive at that conclusion. If only the news media and insane fanatics on the left would quit criticizing Trump, then guys like this wouldn't get the wrong idea about him and go on shooting sprees.
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:37 pm
Just one specific, incontrovertible example would do. Your made up 'dog whistles' don't count.Well, there's plenty of things, as we've pointed out over and over again.
Re: From the Manifesto of the New Zealand Shooter
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:53 pm
My goodness panties are in a twist, aren't they. Poor boos. Try decaf.