Did I dream it?

[tlynn78]

Did anyone else hear a report this morning of Pelosi's husband having been attached at this home in San Fran?

[mellytu74]

Nope - he was attacked with a hammer.

The suspect is in custody.

He was in the house yelling, "Where's Nancy?" Apparently, Paul Pelosi was not the intended target. Speaker Pelosi was in DC.

Press conference momentarily (1:30 p.m. Eastern) - it was supposed to be earlier. No idea of the holdup.

[Bob78164]

Nope - he was attacked with a hammer.

The suspect is in custody.

He was in the house yelling, "Where's Nancy?" Apparently, Paul Pelosi was not the intended target. Speaker Pelosi was in DC.

Press conference momentarily (1:30 p.m. Eastern) - it was supposed to be earlier. No idea of the holdup.

Mr. Pelosi is undergoing brain surgery.

Tgirl, may I respectfully suggest that the word "imagine" better reflects your intent than does "dream" in the thread's title? The word you chose can be understood to connote a positive or hoped-for result, and I'm quite confident that's not the thought you meant to convey. --Bob

[tlynn78]

Nope - he was attacked with a hammer.

The suspect is in custody.

He was in the house yelling, "Where's Nancy?" Apparently, Paul Pelosi was not the intended target. Speaker Pelosi was in DC.

Press conference momentarily (1:30 p.m. Eastern) - it was supposed to be earlier. No idea of the holdup.

Holy crap. That's some bullshit - where the heck was security, surely they have some?

[Bob Juch]

I am apprehensive about Democrats who win the upcoming election being attacked, especially in states like Arizona, where there's close to a 50/50 split.

[mellytu74]

Nope - he was attacked with a hammer.

The suspect is in custody.

He was in the house yelling, "Where's Nancy?" Apparently, Paul Pelosi was not the intended target. Speaker Pelosi was in DC.

Press conference momentarily (1:30 p.m. Eastern) - it was supposed to be earlier. No idea of the holdup.

Holy crap. That's some bullshit - where the heck was security, surely they have some?

Apparently, from what I could gather at what was a short press conference, it was the alarm system that got the cops there so quickly. They didn't answer specific questions about the house's security sytem.

[jarnon]

And a few days ago, a Rubio volunteer in Florida was attacked by two men and their dogs. This is getting crazy.

Mr. Pelosi is 82 years old. Have they no decency?

[tlynn78]

And a few days ago, a Rubio volunteer in Florida was attacked by two men and their dogs. This is getting crazy.

Mr. Pelosi is 82 years old. Have they no decency?

Criminals and decency? Did you really just ask that?

[tlynn78]

Nope - he was attacked with a hammer.

The suspect is in custody.

He was in the house yelling, "Where's Nancy?" Apparently, Paul Pelosi was not the intended target. Speaker Pelosi was in DC.

Press conference momentarily (1:30 p.m. Eastern) - it was supposed to be earlier. No idea of the holdup.

Holy crap. That's some bullshit - where the heck was security, surely they have some?

Apparently, from what I could gather at what was a short press conference, it was the alarm system that got the cops there so quickly. They didn't answer specific questions about the house's security sytem.

Thank goodness they got there quickly enough to catch the perp.

[BackInTex]

I am apprehensive about Democrats who win the upcoming election being attacked, especially in states like Arizona, where there's close to a 50/50 split.

Sounds as it you don't care if Republicans who win get attacked, only the Dems.

[tlynn78]

I am apprehensive about Democrats who win the upcoming election being attacked, especially in states like Arizona, where there's close to a 50/50 split.

Sounds as it you don't care if Republicans who win get attacked, only the Dems.

Well, duh. When it's not a Dem, well, they just had it coming.

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

Mr. Pelosi was attacked by a hemp jewelry designer with his own hammer after the police arrived. The perp was looking for the speaker.

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

Mr. Pelosi was attacked by a hemp jewelry designer with his own hammer after the police arrived. The perp was looking for the speaker.

you are more likely to be injured by your own hammer than a stranger’s hammer

[tlynn78]

Mr. Pelosi was attacked by a hemp jewelry designer with his own hammer after the police arrived. The perp was looking for the speaker.

you are more likely to be injured by your own hammer than a stranger’s hammer

Bizarre

[BackInTex]

More things that should make you go "hmm..."

NBC News pulls report on Paul Pelosi attack

Among things said in the report was that Paul Pelosi was the person that answered the door when the police knocked. And that DePape had been in the home for 30 minutes prior to police arriving.

Paull Pelosi did not try to flee or escape when he had the chance. Why?

I know some of you will discredit the story because NBC chose to pull it, but really, the story is there, told by an NBC reporter and the sources are just as credible as any other sources quoted to date.

There will be more to this. Just like there was more to the Hutner Biden laptop story, but also like there wasn't more to the Steele Dossier story. The press is crap.

[jarnon]

More things that should make you go "hmm..."

NBC News pulls report on Paul Pelosi attack

Among things said in the report was that Paul Pelosi was the person that answered the door when the police knocked. And that DePape had been in the home for 30 minutes prior to police arriving.

Paull Pelosi did not try to flee or escape when he had the chance. Why?

I know some of you will discredit the story because NBC chose to pull it, but really, the story is there, told by an NBC reporter and the sources are just as credible as any other sources quoted to date.

There will be more to this. Just like there was more to the Hutner Biden laptop story, but also like there wasn't more to the Steele Dossier story. The press is crap.

A network source told CNN it pulled the segment after the source of the report’s information was found to be unreliable.

Unreliable like the Steele dossier, or the reporting about President Bush that got Dan Rather in trouble. What’s crappy is not that NBC News had the integrity to pull the story, but that they went after the “scoop” without proper verification. People remember allegations and ignore later retractions.

[jarnon]

Paul Pelosi did not try to flee or escape when he had the chance. Why?

Any number of reasons. He felt safer in his home with a security system (which should have been better) than the street at 2 a.m. The attacker was focused on Nancy, so Paul didn’t feel endangered at first. He’s an old man.

Skepticism has value, but most of the time things are what they seem to be.

[Bob Juch]

More things that should make you go "hmm..."

NBC News pulls report on Paul Pelosi attack

Among things said in the report was that Paul Pelosi was the person that answered the door when the police knocked. And that DePape had been in the home for 30 minutes prior to police arriving.

Paull Pelosi did not try to flee or escape when he had the chance. Why?

I know some of you will discredit the story because NBC chose to pull it, but really, the story is there, told by an NBC reporter and the sources are just as credible as any other sources quoted to date.

There will be more to this. Just like there was more to the Hutner Biden laptop story, but also like there wasn't more to the Steele Dossier story. The press is crap.

‘Putin’s chef’ admits to interfering in U.S. elections

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/28151659 ... -elections

Yevgeny Prigozhin, an entrepreneur known as “Putin’s chef” because of his catering contracts with the Kremlin, on Monday admitted he had interfered in U.S. elections and said he would continue to do so — for the first time confirming the accusations he has been rejecting for years.

“We have interfered, are interfering and will continue to interfere. Carefully, precisely, surgically and in our own way,” Prigozhin said in remarks posted by his spokespeople on social media.

Prigozhin, a dozen other Russian nationals and three Russian companies were charged with operating a covert social media campaign aimed at fomenting discord and dividing American public opinion ahead of the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

They were indicted in 2018 as part of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian election interference.

The Justice Department in 2020 moved to dismiss charges against two of the indicted firms, Concord Management and Consulting LLC and Concord Catering, saying they had concluded that a trial against a corporate defendant with no presence in the United States and no prospect of meaningful punishment even if convicted would likely expose sensitive law enforcement tools and techniques.

Prigozhin had denied involvement in election interference until now.

He also previously denied ties to the Wagner mercenary force, but in September admitted to founding and financing it in 2014 and started speaking openly about its involvement in the war in Ukraine.

[Bob Juch]

By Tom Wilson, MS in Organization Development & Process Theology, American University.

The attempt to control the narrative is characteristic of the Fascist distortion of Hume’s theory of perception, which posits that subjective, or phenomenal, reality is a construct of sensory perception of noumena existence which is generally accepted.

The Fascist distortion, as practiced by Rush Limbaugh, among others, is that reality can be created if you control perceptions; that is, perception is reality, and if you can control the narrative which defines perception, you can control reality.

Perception is the source of subjective reality, which may or not comport usefully with the existential phenomena independent of perception that provides the sensory stimulus that produces subjective reality. The goal of the Fascist narrative is to control the subjective reality so that it conforms with the Fascist political agenda instead of providing a proper objective inquiry into the nature of existence as a point of departure for effective collective action for the general welfare.

In the case of the attack on Paul Pelosi, the object of the exercise is to characterize the attack as a result of Pelosi’s personal moral depravity as opposed to the effects of the trickle-down effects of the GOP’s deliberate appeal to violence and extremist behavior in the pursuit of their authoritarian ambitions. This, of course, is a result of Newt Gingrich’s politics of personal destruction he adopted as part of his general Trotsky-inspired GOPAC political strategy to become Speaker and, since then, to impose the authoritarian agenda of the John Birch Society as a substitute for the US Constitution.

But it all goes back to a misappropriation of David Hume’s theory of perception: if perception is reality, control perceptions, and you control reality.

[BackInTex]

More things that should make you go "hmm..."

NBC News pulls report on Paul Pelosi attack

Among things said in the report was that Paul Pelosi was the person that answered the door when the police knocked. And that DePape had been in the home for 30 minutes prior to police arriving.

Paull Pelosi did not try to flee or escape when he had the chance. Why?

I know some of you will discredit the story because NBC chose to pull it, but really, the story is there, told by an NBC reporter and the sources are just as credible as any other sources quoted to date.

There will be more to this. Just like there was more to the Hutner Biden laptop story, but also like there wasn't more to the Steele Dossier story. The press is crap.

‘Putin’s chef’ admits to interfering in U.S. elections

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/28151659 ... -elections

Yevgeny Prigozhin, an entrepreneur known as “Putin’s chef” because of his catering contracts with the Kremlin, on Monday admitted he had interfered in U.S. elections and said he would continue to do so — for the first time confirming the accusations he has been rejecting for years.

“We have interfered, are interfering and will continue to interfere. Carefully, precisely, surgically and in our own way,” Prigozhin said in remarks posted by his spokespeople on social media.

Prigozhin, a dozen other Russian nationals and three Russian companies were charged with operating a covert social media campaign aimed at fomenting discord and dividing American public opinion ahead of the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

They were indicted in 2018 as part of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian election interference.

The Justice Department in 2020 moved to dismiss charges against two of the indicted firms, Concord Management and Consulting LLC and Concord Catering, saying they had concluded that a trial against a corporate defendant with no presence in the United States and no prospect of meaningful punishment even if convicted would likely expose sensitive law enforcement tools and techniques.

Prigozhin had denied involvement in election interference until now.

He also previously denied ties to the Wagner mercenary force, but in September admitted to founding and financing it in 2014 and started speaking openly about its involvement in the war in Ukraine.

I don't think anyone is denying external actors are trying to interfere with out elections. Heck, we do the same. The problem you have is your side keeps trying to tie Trump and others to the interference which has undermined your integrity on anything else you report.

[BackInTex]

The Fascist distortion, as practiced by Rush Limbaugh, among others, is that reality can be created if you control perceptions; that is, perception is reality, and if you can control the narrative which defines perception, you can control reality.

What specifically is Fascist about how Rush presented his side of things vs. say, how the MSN's Dan Ratherish distortions of the truth?

I'll tell you, nothing, other than it is 10 to 1 MSN against Rush (though he had one hand tied behind his back just to make it fair).

[Vandal]

David DePape found guilty in Paul Pelosi hammer attack

A jury has found David DePape guilty on two counts in the violent attack on Paul Pelosi, the husband of former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, last year in the couple’s San Francisco home.

DePape was convicted in federal court of one count of assault on the immediate family member of a federal official, and a second count of attempted kidnapping of a federal official. He faces a maximum sentence of 30 years and 20 years, respectively.

A state case against DePape that includes charges of attempted murder, burglary and assault is expected to go to trial later this month.


https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/16/politics ... index.html

[BackInTex]

David DePape found guilty in Paul Pelosi hammer attack

A jury has found David DePape guilty on two counts in the violent attack on Paul Pelosi, the husband of former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, last year in the couple’s San Francisco home.

DePape was convicted in federal court of one count of assault on the immediate family member of a federal official, and a second count of attempted kidnapping of a federal official. He faces a maximum sentence of 30 years and 20 years, respectively.

A state case against DePape that includes charges of attempted murder, burglary and assault is expected to go to trial later this month.


https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/16/politics ... index.html

Assault on the immediate family memeber of a federal official is 30 years max, but attempting to kidnap said official is only 20? Hmm... Maybe because it was only "attempted". What would it be if it were kidnapping?

[jarnon]

Assault on the immediate family member of a federal official is 30 years max, but attempting to kidnap said official is only 20? Hmm... Maybe because it was only "attempted". What would it be if it were kidnapping?

Man who attacked Minnesota congresswoman in her Washington apartment building gets 27-month sentence

Apparently there's an enormous range in sentences, and the maximum sentence is rarely imposed.