FRIDAY 11/2/07 QoD

[tanstaafl2]

WikiPedia is verboten for this QoD

I suppose it pays to read the rules. Not only did I not use Wiki I didn't bother to use google or anything else, which apparently would have been allowed. That would presumably have made this quiz a little bit easier.

[JBillyGirl]

1. What were the two camps from which Oskar Schindler obtained his workers?

I know this at one point, but I'm drawing a big ol' blank.

2. Who was the Commandant of the first of those camps?

Amon Goeth

3. Who portrayed that Commandant in the movie Schindler's List?

Ralph Fiennes

4. In what city was that Commandant born?

Frankfurt

5. In what city was Oskar Schindler born?

Frankfurt (WTF, I have no idea on either)

6. What is the name of the Memorial in Jerusalem in which Schindler is honored? (Please give the English transliteration, and not the original Hebrew)

Hall of the Righteous?

7. Oskar Schindler is credited with spending over 4 million German Marks to save approximately 1200 Jews. According to the movie, Schindler's List, approximately how many descendants of the Schindlerjuden were living at the time of the movie's production?

B. 6000

[tlynn78]

Spoiler

1. Plaszow and Auschwitz
2., Amon leopold Goeth
3. Ralph Fiennes
4. Vienna
5. Zwittau
6. Yad Vashem Memorial
7. 6000

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[TheCalvinator24]

1. What were the two camps from which Oskar Schindler obtained his workers?

What I was looking for here was Plaszow & Brunlitz, but given the sloppy wording, I also have to accept Auschwitz & Gross-Rosen.

2. Who was the Commandant of the first of those camps?

Regardless of the sloppiness of Q1, the first camp was Plaszow, so this is Amon Goeth.

3. Who portrayed that Commandant in the movie Schindler's List?

Ralph Fiennes

4. In what city was that Commandant born?

Vienna

5. In what city was Oskar Schindler born?

Zwittau

6. What is the name of the Memorial in Jerusalem in which Schindler is honored? (Please give the English transliteration, and not the original Hebrew)

Yad Vashen

7. Oskar Schindler is credited with spending over 4 million German Marks to save approximately 1200 Jews. According to the movie, Schindler's List, approximately how many descendants of the Schindlerjuden were living at the time of the movie's production?

A. 3000
B. 6000
C. 13,000
D. 16,000

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[mrkelley23]

1. What were the two camps from which Oskar Schindler obtained his workers?

What I was looking for here was Plaszow & Brunlitz, but given the sloppy wording, I also have to accept Auschwitz & Gross-Rosen.

2. Who was the Commandant of the first of those camps?

Regardless of the sloppiness of Q1, the first camp was Plaszow, so this is Amon Goeth.

3. Who portrayed that Commandant in the movie Schindler's List?

Ralph Fiennes

4. In what city was that Commandant born?

Vienna

5. In what city was Oskar Schindler born?

Zwittau

6. What is the name of the Memorial in Jerusalem in which Schindler is honored? (Please give the English transliteration, and not the original Hebrew)

Yad Vashen

I guess I misunderstood this question, too. Not my week for reading, I guess. I saw Yad Vashem, but figured those were the Hebrew words. So I looked for an English translation of Yad Vashem.

7. Oskar Schindler is credited with spending over 4 million German Marks to save approximately 1200 Jews. According to the movie, Schindler's List, approximately how many descendants of the Schindlerjuden were living at the time of the movie's production?

A. 3000
B. 6000
C. 13,000
D. 16,000

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[TheCalvinator24]

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[Odyssey]

6. What is the name of the Memorial in Jerusalem in which Schindler is honored? (Please give the English transliteration, and not the original Hebrew)

Yad Vashen


E

I don't get how this is the English translation?

[TheCalvinator24]

6. What is the name of the Memorial in Jerusalem in which Schindler is honored? (Please give the English transliteration, and not the original Hebrew)

Yad Vashen


E

I don't get how this is the English translation?

I didn't ask for the English translation

[Odyssey]

D'oh!

I don't get how this is the English translation?

I didn't ask for the English translation

[mrkelley23]

D'oh!

I don't get how this is the English translation?

I didn't ask for the English translation

Yeah, Cal was trying to keep us from using that Hebrew font that was part of the latest IE update.

[Odyssey]

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Yeah, Cal was trying to keep us from using that Hebrew font that was part of the latest IE update.[/quote]

Just what I was thinking--How in the heck was I ever, ever going to post in Hebrew?
It actually took more time to get the translation than it did to find the Yad Vashem. But if I am ever asked what that means, I'm so ready.

[mrkelley23]

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Yeah, Cal was trying to keep us from using that Hebrew font that was part of the latest IE update.

Just what I was thinking--How in the heck was I ever, ever going to post in Hebrew?
It actually took more time to get the translation than it did to find the Yad Vashem. But if I am ever asked what that means, I'm so ready.[/quote]

And if you want to get really technical, I think he wanted "transcription," rather than transliteration.

At least I"m not bitter.

[earendel]

And if you want to get really technical, I think he wanted "transcription," rather than transliteration.

No, "transliteration" is what I believe Cal wanted - the English letters substituted for the Hebrew ones, and written in correct order (left to right as opposed to right to left).

Literally it means "a memorial and a name" and is taken from Isaiah 56:6.

[Odyssey]

I found Garden of the Righteous--what's that then?

[mrkelley23]

And if you want to get really technical, I think he wanted "transcription," rather than transliteration.

No, "transliteration" is what I believe Cal wanted - the English letters substituted for the Hebrew ones, and written in correct order (left to right as opposed to right to left).

Literally it means "a memorial and a name" and is taken from Isaiah 56:6.

I don't know a lot about Hebrew (okay, practically nothing) but my understanding is that transliteration attempts to reproduce the pronunciation faithfully in the language being converted to. So a native English speaker could read Yad Vashem and be reasonably certain that she is pronouncing it close to correctly. I don't see how that's possible without any diacritical marks.

Transcription, on the other hand, is merely converting alphabets -- taking the letters of the word in its original language and substituting the nearest equivalents in the new language. My ignorance of Hebrew may be showing, but that appears to me to be closer to what Yad Vashem is.

[earendel]

And if you want to get really technical, I think he wanted "transcription," rather than transliteration.

No, "transliteration" is what I believe Cal wanted - the English letters substituted for the Hebrew ones, and written in correct order (left to right as opposed to right to left).

Literally it means "a memorial and a name" and is taken from Isaiah 56:6.

I don't know a lot about Hebrew (okay, practically nothing) but my understanding is that transliteration attempts to reproduce the pronunciation faithfully in the language being converted to. So a native English speaker could read Yad Vashem and be reasonably certain that she is pronouncing it close to correctly. I don't see how that's possible without any diacritical marks.

Transcription, on the other hand, is merely converting alphabets -- taking the letters of the word in its original language and substituting the nearest equivalents in the new language. My ignorance of Hebrew may be showing, but that appears to me to be closer to what Yad Vashem is.

I'd say it's both - the English letters are chosen because they represent the same sound made by the Hebrew equivalent - the English "y" replaces the Hebrew "yodh", the English dipthong "sh" replaces the Hebrew consonant "shin", etc.

[earendel]

I found Garden of the Righteous--what's that then?

Well, the Hebrew word for "garden" is "gan" or "gath", and the Hebrew word for "righteous" is "tzedek". The phrase refers to a memorial garden that is part of the Yad Vashem complex, dedicated to those Gentiles who risked their lives to rescue Jews during the Holocaust.

[Odyssey]

Ahh, thanks Earendel. Now I'm ready.
Anything else in the Yad Vashem complex that is noteworthy from a trivia perspective?

[mrkelley23]

I'd say it's both - the English letters are chosen because they represent the same sound made by the Hebrew equivalent - the English "y" replaces the Hebrew "yodh", the English dipthong "sh" replaces the Hebrew consonant "shin", etc.

If you look at my answer post in this thread, and then Cal's answers, you'll see that I spelled the second camp as "Brinnlitz" and Cal spelled it as "Brunlitz." Mine is a transliteration (the "inn" approximates the umlauted u) while his is a transcription (the u is there in the German name, but it has an umlaut, which gives it a different pronunciation)

It's possible that "Yad Vashem" is the same whether it's transliterated or transcribed, but I doubt it.

[earendel]

If you look at my answer post in this thread, and then Cal's answers, you'll see that I spelled the second camp as "Brinnlitz" and Cal spelled it as "Brunlitz." Mine is a transliteration (the "inn" approximates the umlauted u) while his is a transcription (the u is there in the German name, but it has an umlaut, which gives it a different pronunciation)

It's possible that "Yad Vashem" is the same whether it's transliterated or transcribed, but I doubt it.

It's both - the English letters produce a pronunciation that is very close to the Hebrew (or at least modern Hebrew - the "Yemenite" pronunciation I learned in the seminary would require the second word to be transliterated as "washem").