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#1 Post by Weyoun » Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:18 pm

The new era for backdoor political contributions has begun.

Trump’s Truth Social website went public today. He is mad at NYC’s attempts to claw back his ill-gotten gains, so he listed the stock on NASDAQ, which is based out of New York City.

The IPO is vastly over inflated in price, likely driven up by mouth breathers (flock) and investors who are trying to get in good with Trump. I believe the Hyatt hit today was $78. A closer analysis, based on the subscriber base of the website and the general financials, would suggest that the stock is more accurately valued at two dollars.

The company has never made money, and is thought to have severe cash flow issues, since no one wants to advertise on a website associated with people who call for the murder of political opponents, immigrants, gays, etc.

So, like all other Trump businesses, like the USFL, his wine label, his vacation company, his casinos, his university, etc. etc. it will go bankrupt. The people left holding the bag will be the goobers who gave the huckster money.

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#2 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:31 pm

Weyoun wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:18 pm
The new era for backdoor political contributions has begun.

Trump’s Truth Social website went public today. He is mad at NYC’s attempts to claw back his ill-gotten gains, so he listed the stock on NASDAQ, which is based out of New York City.

The IPO is vastly over inflated in price, likely driven up by mouth breathers (flock) and investors who are trying to get in good with Trump. I believe the Hyatt hit today was $78. A closer analysis, based on the subscriber base of the website and the general financials, would suggest that the stock is more accurately valued at two dollars.

The company has never made money, and is thought to have severe cash flow issues, since no one wants to advertise on a website associated with people who call for the murder of political opponents, immigrants, gays, etc.

So, like all other Trump businesses, like the USFL, his wine label, his vacation company, his casinos, his university, etc. etc. it will go bankrupt. The people left holding the bag will be the goobers who gave the huckster money.
I think one of the leftist loonies on this bored once said you were conservative. Shows how much they think they know that they are mistaken about. You have a life-threatening case of TDS mixed with delirium tremens. (Of course, that is my opinion.)
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#3 Post by Beebs52 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:45 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:31 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:18 pm
The new era for backdoor political contributions has begun.

Trump’s Truth Social website went public today. He is mad at NYC’s attempts to claw back his ill-gotten gains, so he listed the stock on NASDAQ, which is based out of New York City.

The IPO is vastly over inflated in price, likely driven up by mouth breathers (flock) and investors who are trying to get in good with Trump. I believe the Hyatt hit today was $78. A closer analysis, based on the subscriber base of the website and the general financials, would suggest that the stock is more accurately valued at two dollars.

The company has never made money, and is thought to have severe cash flow issues, since no one wants to advertise on a website associated with people who call for the murder of political opponents, immigrants, gays, etc.

So, like all other Trump businesses, like the USFL, his wine label, his vacation company, his casinos, his university, etc. etc. it will go bankrupt. The people left holding the bag will be the goobers who gave the huckster money.
I think one of the leftist loonies on this bored once said you were conservative. Shows how much they think they know that they are mistaken about. You have a life-threatening case of TDS mixed with delirium tremens. (Of course, that is my opinion.)
Ok. I'm gonna be blasted by ya both. I was tempted not to vote at all. I still reserve my decision to do so.

With that I don't understand Doc's overarching venom against Trump and none for Biden.
Well, then

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#4 Post by Weyoun » Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:31 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:45 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:31 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:18 pm
The new era for backdoor political contributions has begun.

Trump’s Truth Social website went public today. He is mad at NYC’s attempts to claw back his ill-gotten gains, so he listed the stock on NASDAQ, which is based out of New York City.

The IPO is vastly over inflated in price, likely driven up by mouth breathers (flock) and investors who are trying to get in good with Trump. I believe the Hyatt hit today was $78. A closer analysis, based on the subscriber base of the website and the general financials, would suggest that the stock is more accurately valued at two dollars.

The company has never made money, and is thought to have severe cash flow issues, since no one wants to advertise on a website associated with people who call for the murder of political opponents, immigrants, gays, etc.

So, like all other Trump businesses, like the USFL, his wine label, his vacation company, his casinos, his university, etc. etc. it will go bankrupt. The people left holding the bag will be the goobers who gave the huckster money.
I think one of the leftist loonies on this bored once said you were conservative. Shows how much they think they know that they are mistaken about. You have a life-threatening case of TDS mixed with delirium tremens. (Of course, that is my opinion.)
Ok. I'm gonna be blasted by ya both. I was tempted not to vote at all. I still reserve my decision to do so.

With that I don't understand Doc's overarching venom against Trump and none for Biden.
Oh Biden’s not a good president. At a minimum, he is doddering, and not in command of anything. He has no ability to bring about any kind of consensus. The fact that he is so vulnerable is because he is just not an effective leader at this point.

And he’s wrong on several policy points. I actually think we do need some sort of regulation of the border. Unlike the bigots on the board, I think we need ongoing immigration to keep this country, working and going, but it does need to be better structured, and not so chaotic.

But everything that he is wrong about, Trump is even more wrong about. Trump would shut the border down, which poses huge demographic problems, as well as problems with filling jobs.

And he is an existential threat to our democracy, threatening to destroy all of our institutions that worked so well for us for greater than 200 years.

So not really a difficult call for me

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#5 Post by Weyoun » Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:34 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:31 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:18 pm
The new era for backdoor political contributions has begun.

Trump’s Truth Social website went public today. He is mad at NYC’s attempts to claw back his ill-gotten gains, so he listed the stock on NASDAQ, which is based out of New York City.

The IPO is vastly over inflated in price, likely driven up by mouth breathers (flock) and investors who are trying to get in good with Trump. I believe the Hyatt hit today was $78. A closer analysis, based on the subscriber base of the website and the general financials, would suggest that the stock is more accurately valued at two dollars.

The company has never made money, and is thought to have severe cash flow issues, since no one wants to advertise on a website associated with people who call for the murder of political opponents, immigrants, gays, etc.

So, like all other Trump businesses, like the USFL, his wine label, his vacation company, his casinos, his university, etc. etc. it will go bankrupt. The people left holding the bag will be the goobers who gave the huckster money.
I think one of the leftist loonies on this bored once said you were conservative. Shows how much they think they know that they are mistaken about. You have a life-threatening case of TDS mixed with delirium tremens. (Of course, that is my opinion.)
This, of course, is a comment from the same person who is “not a Republican,” because some Republicans are people like Mitt Romney, and because Republicans are secretly part of the uniparty.

I would say my religious beliefs drive my politics more than anything else. I think we should try to do simple things to help each other. Your entire belief system is based on hating other people and making sure other people are deprived because you think they deserve suffering.

Do you hold a single political position that if enacted would make large numbers of people better off than they would be otherwise? From what I can tell here, no.

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#6 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:39 pm

Yeah, doc. I try to oppress at least one person every day.

You are certifiable.
Your friendly neighborhood racist. On the waiting list to be a nazi. Designated an honorary 'snowflake'. Trolled by the very best, as well as by BJ. Always typical, unlike others.., Fulminator, Hopelessly in the tank for trump... inappropriate... Flocking himself... Probably a tucking sexist, too... All thought comes from the right wing noise machine(TM)... A clear and present threat to The Future Of Our Democracy.. Doesn't understand anything... Made the trump apologist and enabler playoffs... Heathen bastard... Knows nothing about history... Liar.... don't know much about statistics and polling... Nothing at all about biology... Ignorant Bigot... Potential Future Pariah... Big Nerd... Spiraling, Anti-Trans Bigot.. A Lunatic AND a Bigot.. Very Ignorant of the World in General... Sounds deranged... Fake Christian... Weird... has the mind of a child... has paranoid delusions... Simpleton

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#7 Post by tlynn78 » Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:22 am

Weyoun wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:34 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:31 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:18 pm
The new era for backdoor political contributions has begun.

Trump’s Truth Social website went public today. He is mad at NYC’s attempts to claw back his ill-gotten gains, so he listed the stock on NASDAQ, which is based out of New York City.

The IPO is vastly over inflated in price, likely driven up by mouth breathers (flock) and investors who are trying to get in good with Trump. I believe the Hyatt hit today was $78. A closer analysis, based on the subscriber base of the website and the general financials, would suggest that the stock is more accurately valued at two dollars.

The company has never made money, and is thought to have severe cash flow issues, since no one wants to advertise on a website associated with people who call for the murder of political opponents, immigrants, gays, etc.

So, like all other Trump businesses, like the USFL, his wine label, his vacation company, his casinos, his university, etc. etc. it will go bankrupt. The people left holding the bag will be the goobers who gave the huckster money.
I think one of the leftist loonies on this bored once said you were conservative. Shows how much they think they know that they are mistaken about. You have a life-threatening case of TDS mixed with delirium tremens. (Of course, that is my opinion.)
This, of course, is a comment from the same person who is “not a Republican,” because some Republicans are people like Mitt Romney, and because Republicans are secretly part of the uniparty.

I would say my religious beliefs drive my politics more than anything else. I think we should try to do simple things to help each other. Your entire belief system is based on hating other people and making sure other people are deprived because you think they deserve suffering.

Do you hold a single political position that if enacted would make large numbers of people better off than they would be otherwise? From what I can tell here, no.
Flock can speak for himself, and frankly I think you're too far gone, but I believe Flock is against abortion on demand (as am I). That's one hell of a "large number of people better off than they would be otherwise."
And of course, to you and your lil buds, that must certainly mean we hate brown people, Yada yada, lather, rinse, repeat.
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#8 Post by tlynn78 » Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:35 am

Weyoun wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:31 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:45 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:31 pm


I think one of the leftist loonies on this bored once said you were conservative. Shows how much they think they know that they are mistaken about. You have a life-threatening case of TDS mixed with delirium tremens. (Of course, that is my opinion.)
Ok. I'm gonna be blasted by ya both. I was tempted not to vote at all. I still reserve my decision to do so.

With that I don't understand Doc's overarching venom against Trump and none for Biden.
Oh Biden’s not a good president. At a minimum, he is doddering, and not in command of anything. He has no ability to bring about any kind of consensus. The fact that he is so vulnerable is because he is just not an effective leader at this point.

And he’s wrong on several policy points. I actually think we do need some sort of regulation of the border. Unlike the bigots on the board, I think we need ongoing immigration to keep this country, working and going, but it does need to be better structured, and not so chaotic.

But everything that he is wrong about, Trump is even more wrong about. Trump would shut the border down, which poses huge demographic problems, as well as problems with filling jobs.

And he is an existential threat to our democracy, threatening to destroy all of our institutions that worked so well for us for greater than 200 years.

So not really a difficult call for me
Oh, please. Point out where "bigots on the board" have ever said immigration should be eliminated? No, don't bother, it's never happened except in your delusions.
And the "..he's an existential threat to our democracy" horseshit is beyond ignorant, even for you. Please, enlighten us - is he going to use the FBI to spy on civilians? Oops, already been done, just not by the Orange boogeyman. Is he going to use the Justice Department to target political opponents? Oh, wait...maybe he'll use the media to manipulate election outcomes? Aww, too late to be the first there. Do you people ever get tired of being led around by the nose?
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#9 Post by Bob78164 » Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:31 am

Weyoun wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:31 pm
Oh Biden’s not a good president. At a minimum, he is doddering, and not in command of anything. He has no ability to bring about any kind of consensus. The fact that he is so vulnerable is because he is just not an effective leader at this point.

And he’s wrong on several policy points. I actually think we do need some sort of regulation of the border. Unlike the bigots on the board, I think we need ongoing immigration to keep this country, working and going, but it does need to be better structured, and not so chaotic.
I really think you lack evidence for your first point. There are plenty of reports of President Biden being in command of a considerable level of detail -- asking questions about footnote 23 on page 47 of a briefing paper. Hell, if you read the full transcript of his interview with Robert Hur's staff, you'll see examples where he corrects questions because the question got a detail wrong. That interview does not read like someone who's losing it. And I have no idea how you reach the conclusion that President Biden is "not in command of anything." Hell, he's the first President I can remember who's gone this long without losing a single cabinet member -- Marcia Fudge's impending resignation will be the first Cabinet official of the Administration to step down.

I think the passage of the Inflation Reduction Act demonstrates his ability to achieve some consensus. Frankly, he's accomplished a great deal more than I expected -- he was approximately my fifth choice in the 2020 primary because I was afraid he'd get rolled. That didn't happen.

As for the border, what additional steps would you like him to take, given that Congress has refused to provide the funding necessary to process all the people arriving at the border? What is he supposed to do when the House is so dysfunctional that it rejected a clear Republican win on policy for no reason other than to try to keep the border alive as a political issue for Donny's benefit? --Bob
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#10 Post by Pastor Fireball » Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:45 am

Weyoun wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:18 pm
The new era for backdoor political contributions has begun.

Trump’s Truth Social website went public today. He is mad at NYC’s attempts to claw back his ill-gotten gains, so he listed the stock on NASDAQ, which is based out of New York City.

The IPO is vastly over inflated in price, likely driven up by mouth breathers (flock) and investors who are trying to get in good with Trump. I believe the Hyatt hit today was $78. A closer analysis, based on the subscriber base of the website and the general financials, would suggest that the stock is more accurately valued at two dollars.

The company has never made money, and is thought to have severe cash flow issues, since no one wants to advertise on a website associated with people who call for the murder of political opponents, immigrants, gays, etc.

So, like all other Trump businesses, like the USFL, his wine label, his vacation company, his casinos, his university, etc. etc. it will go bankrupt. The people left holding the bag will be the goobers who gave the huckster money.
Classic pump-and-dump. Not surprising by somebody who has a name that rhymes with "dump" and himself resembles a dump.
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#11 Post by Weyoun » Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:55 am

tlynn78 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:22 am
Weyoun wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:34 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:31 pm


I think one of the leftist loonies on this bored once said you were conservative. Shows how much they think they know that they are mistaken about. You have a life-threatening case of TDS mixed with delirium tremens. (Of course, that is my opinion.)
This, of course, is a comment from the same person who is “not a Republican,” because some Republicans are people like Mitt Romney, and because Republicans are secretly part of the uniparty.

I would say my religious beliefs drive my politics more than anything else. I think we should try to do simple things to help each other. Your entire belief system is based on hating other people and making sure other people are deprived because you think they deserve suffering.

Do you hold a single political position that if enacted would make large numbers of people better off than they would be otherwise? From what I can tell here, no.
Flock can speak for himself, and frankly I think you're too far gone, but I believe Flock is against abortion on demand (as am I). That's one hell of a "large number of people better off than they would be otherwise."
And of course, to you and your lil buds, that must certainly mean we hate brown people, Yada yada, lather, rinse, repeat.
Yeah, but here’s the thing. You also don’t care if those kids are born into crippling poverty.

You in particular are bad about that nonsequitur where you ask if someone so concerned about an issue, why haven’t they dropped everything to make sure the issue is dealt with?

Of course, with abortion, you don’t have to make that sacrifice. It’s not an issue that affects you personally in your senescence.

And most importantly, it doesn’t cost you a single dollar. If it cost a bunch of money to ban abortion, for some reason, I think you would start getting pissed off about the idea.

You’re a hand waving keyboard warrior, who talks a big game, but doesn’t actually have to do anything to make a difference based on her avowed political positions.

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#12 Post by Weyoun » Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:56 am

Bob78164 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:31 am
Weyoun wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:31 pm
Oh Biden’s not a good president. At a minimum, he is doddering, and not in command of anything. He has no ability to bring about any kind of consensus. The fact that he is so vulnerable is because he is just not an effective leader at this point.

And he’s wrong on several policy points. I actually think we do need some sort of regulation of the border. Unlike the bigots on the board, I think we need ongoing immigration to keep this country, working and going, but it does need to be better structured, and not so chaotic.
I really think you lack evidence for your first point. There are plenty of reports of President Biden being in command of a considerable level of detail -- asking questions about footnote 23 on page 47 of a briefing paper. Hell, if you read the full transcript of his interview with Robert Hur's staff, you'll see examples where he corrects questions because the question got a detail wrong. That interview does not read like someone who's losing it. And I have no idea how you reach the conclusion that President Biden is "not in command of anything." Hell, he's the first President I can remember who's gone this long without losing a single cabinet member -- Marcia Fudge's impending resignation will be the first Cabinet official of the Administration to step down.

I think the passage of the Inflation Reduction Act demonstrates his ability to achieve some consensus. Frankly, he's accomplished a great deal more than I expected -- he was approximately my fifth choice in the 2020 primary because I was afraid he'd get rolled. That didn't happen.

As for the border, what additional steps would you like him to take, given that Congress has refused to provide the funding necessary to process all the people arriving at the border? What is he supposed to do when the House is so dysfunctional that it rejected a clear Republican win on policy for no reason other than to try to keep the border alive as a political issue for Donny's benefit? --Bob
Bob, he’s 80 years old. Come on. This is obvious. He’s not gonna be universally on top of everything, and he certainly doesn’t convey such command when he’s on television.

We’re on the edge of having some sort of dictator nut job because he can at least squawk and make big noises for a crowd.

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#13 Post by Weyoun » Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:58 am

tlynn78 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:35 am
Weyoun wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:31 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:45 pm

Ok. I'm gonna be blasted by ya both. I was tempted not to vote at all. I still reserve my decision to do so.

With that I don't understand Doc's overarching venom against Trump and none for Biden.
Oh Biden’s not a good president. At a minimum, he is doddering, and not in command of anything. He has no ability to bring about any kind of consensus. The fact that he is so vulnerable is because he is just not an effective leader at this point.

And he’s wrong on several policy points. I actually think we do need some sort of regulation of the border. Unlike the bigots on the board, I think we need ongoing immigration to keep this country, working and going, but it does need to be better structured, and not so chaotic.

But everything that he is wrong about, Trump is even more wrong about. Trump would shut the border down, which poses huge demographic problems, as well as problems with filling jobs.

And he is an existential threat to our democracy, threatening to destroy all of our institutions that worked so well for us for greater than 200 years.

So not really a difficult call for me
Oh, please. Point out where "bigots on the board" have ever said immigration should be eliminated? No, don't bother, it's never happened except in your delusions.
And the "..he's an existential threat to our democracy" horseshit is beyond ignorant, even for you. Please, enlighten us - is he going to use the FBI to spy on civilians? Oops, already been done, just not by the Orange boogeyman. Is he going to use the Justice Department to target political opponents? Oh, wait...maybe he'll use the media to manipulate election outcomes? Aww, too late to be the first there. Do you people ever get tired of being led around by the nose?
Lol. Every once in a while some far right nutter claims of the FBI wants to break up their school board in Virginia or something.

The FBI hasn’t done such. The CIA is not tapping your phone. Get over yourself.

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#14 Post by Weyoun » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:00 am

Bob78164 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:31 am
Weyoun wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:31 pm
Oh Biden’s not a good president. At a minimum, he is doddering, and not in command of anything. He has no ability to bring about any kind of consensus. The fact that he is so vulnerable is because he is just not an effective leader at this point.

And he’s wrong on several policy points. I actually think we do need some sort of regulation of the border. Unlike the bigots on the board, I think we need ongoing immigration to keep this country, working and going, but it does need to be better structured, and not so chaotic.
I really think you lack evidence for your first point. There are plenty of reports of President Biden being in command of a considerable level of detail -- asking questions about footnote 23 on page 47 of a briefing paper. Hell, if you read the full transcript of his interview with Robert Hur's staff, you'll see examples where he corrects questions because the question got a detail wrong. That interview does not read like someone who's losing it. And I have no idea how you reach the conclusion that President Biden is "not in command of anything." Hell, he's the first President I can remember who's gone this long without losing a single cabinet member -- Marcia Fudge's impending resignation will be the first Cabinet official of the Administration to step down.

I think the passage of the Inflation Reduction Act demonstrates his ability to achieve some consensus. Frankly, he's accomplished a great deal more than I expected -- he was approximately my fifth choice in the 2020 primary because I was afraid he'd get rolled. That didn't happen.

As for the border, what additional steps would you like him to take, given that Congress has refused to provide the funding necessary to process all the people arriving at the border? What is he supposed to do when the House is so dysfunctional that it rejected a clear Republican win on policy for no reason other than to try to keep the border alive as a political issue for Donny's benefit? --Bob
And regarding the border, he also waited three years to do any kind of serious proposal, only to find out the Republicans have painted him in a corner, and now we’re gonna do anything because they could use it against against them. Of course, that’s partly on them but he’s the one who let this issue fester.

If you can show me two years ago, we had serious proposals on the table that worked meaningful interventions, I would consider it.

But in terms of a long-term problem, I think we have to look at real solutions like a guest worker program or some way to massively legalize a large number of people, without necessarily guaranteeing immediate naturalization.

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#15 Post by tlynn78 » Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:38 am

Weyoun wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:55 am
tlynn78 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:22 am
Weyoun wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:34 pm


This, of course, is a comment from the same person who is “not a Republican,” because some Republicans are people like Mitt Romney, and because Republicans are secretly part of the uniparty.

I would say my religious beliefs drive my politics more than anything else. I think we should try to do simple things to help each other. Your entire belief system is based on hating other people and making sure other people are deprived because you think they deserve suffering.

Do you hold a single political position that if enacted would make large numbers of people better off than they would be otherwise? From what I can tell here, no.
Flock can speak for himself, and frankly I think you're too far gone, but I believe Flock is against abortion on demand (as am I). That's one hell of a "large number of people better off than they would be otherwise."
And of course, to you and your lil buds, that must certainly mean we hate brown people, Yada yada, lather, rinse, repeat.
Yeah, but here’s the thing. You also don’t care if those kids are born into crippling poverty.

You in particular are bad about that nonsequitur where you ask if someone so concerned about an issue, why haven’t they dropped everything to make sure the issue is dealt with?

Of course, with abortion, you don’t have to make that sacrifice. It’s not an issue that affects you personally in your senescence.

And most importantly, it doesn’t cost you a single dollar. If it cost a bunch of money to ban abortion, for some reason, I think you would start getting pissed off about the idea.

You’re a hand waving keyboard warrior, who talks a big game, but doesn’t actually have to do anything to make a difference based on her avowed political positions.
LOL!
First, as to the nonsequitur, you were one of the biggest hysterics about how anyone who didn't get the poke was responsible for the deaths of hundreds. I found it oh, let's say inconsistent then, that you and so many fellow hand-wringers on the left apparently believe millions of migrants whose vax status is completely unknown can spread freely throughout the country with no consequence. Given your avowed concern for the spread of disease and your medical training, it's not a huge leap to wonder if you personally took on spending some time at the border vaxing some of those folks. I know several medical professionals who volunteer their time and talents to those less fortunate, albeit mostly overseas.

I really hope your leaps and lapses in logic don't extend to your work. You know fuck-all about anything I might do to help those born into poverty, ( or anyone else) but that's beside the point. You dont/can't deny that banning abortion on demand would "make a large number of people better off than they would be otherwise," so you fall back on the "they'll be poor so they might as well be dead" trope. Not very "Republican" of you.
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Re: Trump IPO rakes in money

#16 Post by Weyoun » Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:12 am

tlynn78 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:38 am
Weyoun wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:55 am
tlynn78 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:22 am


Flock can speak for himself, and frankly I think you're too far gone, but I believe Flock is against abortion on demand (as am I). That's one hell of a "large number of people better off than they would be otherwise."
And of course, to you and your lil buds, that must certainly mean we hate brown people, Yada yada, lather, rinse, repeat.
Yeah, but here’s the thing. You also don’t care if those kids are born into crippling poverty.

You in particular are bad about that nonsequitur where you ask if someone so concerned about an issue, why haven’t they dropped everything to make sure the issue is dealt with?

Of course, with abortion, you don’t have to make that sacrifice. It’s not an issue that affects you personally in your senescence.

And most importantly, it doesn’t cost you a single dollar. If it cost a bunch of money to ban abortion, for some reason, I think you would start getting pissed off about the idea.

You’re a hand waving keyboard warrior, who talks a big game, but doesn’t actually have to do anything to make a difference based on her avowed political positions.
LOL!
First, as to the nonsequitur, you were one of the biggest hysterics about how anyone who didn't get the poke was responsible for the deaths of hundreds. I found it oh, let's say inconsistent then, that you and so many fellow hand-wringers on the left apparently believe millions of migrants whose vax status is completely unknown can spread freely throughout the country with no consequence. Given your avowed concern for the spread of disease and your medical training, it's not a huge leap to wonder if you personally took on spending some time at the border vaxing some of those folks. I know several medical professionals who volunteer their time and talents to those less fortunate, albeit mostly overseas.

I really hope your leaps and lapses in logic don't extend to your work. You know fuck-all about anything I might do to help those born into poverty, ( or anyone else) but that's beside the point. You dont/can't deny that banning abortion on demand would "make a large number of people better off than they would be otherwise," so you fall back on the "they'll be poor so they might as well be dead" trope. Not very "Republican" of you.
One thing you don’t understand is that sometimes a problem can be given a solution and then you move on. If there are a bunch of migrants who don’t have vaccines (and to be clear, we’re not really worried about Covid at this point, a lot of them got the usual vaccines anyway)… Then, just vaccinate them. That’s not inconsistent. I can be in favor vaccination and immigration because it’s possible to vaccinate immigrants. You would be stung by that, because you assume they’re all subhuman, and they don’t deserve that type of care, but to me, it’s pretty obvious that they would.

And Covid was a deadly serious thing. I realize in Bumfuck you could hide in a bunker and whatever, but I saw it rapidly kill a bunch of people, especially in the post vaccine era, when it was consistently folks who were not vaccinated who were the ones dying. So I don’t think it’s hysterical to be concerned about the lives of millions of people. It’s telling that you don’t seem to be bothered by that stuff at all.

And I’ve said, before that I have my hands plenty for where I’m at right now, so I don’t have time to volunteer at the border in South Texas. Only you would be so foolish to suggest that. It’s built-in hypocrisy, because there is no way that you’ve given your life over to such a cause so thoroughly, either, so don’t demand it of others.

And incidentally, I’ve mentioned before that, I am against abortion. I think that’s more consistent than any position you hold. But that is because I’m also concerned about children once they’re born, and you’re not.

And you gloss over the major point, that it’s completely handwaving of you, to announce to have such position, without having to make a personal sacrifice because of that position. How noble of you! I’m guessing that if there was a program to where folks got paid a bunch of money to not get abortions, suddenly you’d be writing your Congress critter…

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Re: Trump IPO rakes in money

#17 Post by tlynn78 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:15 am

Weyoun wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:12 am
tlynn78 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:38 am
Weyoun wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:55 am


Yeah, but here’s the thing. You also don’t care if those kids are born into crippling poverty.

You in particular are bad about that nonsequitur where you ask if someone so concerned about an issue, why haven’t they dropped everything to make sure the issue is dealt with?

Of course, with abortion, you don’t have to make that sacrifice. It’s not an issue that affects you personally in your senescence.

And most importantly, it doesn’t cost you a single dollar. If it cost a bunch of money to ban abortion, for some reason, I think you would start getting pissed off about the idea.

You’re a hand waving keyboard warrior, who talks a big game, but doesn’t actually have to do anything to make a difference based on her avowed political positions.
LOL!
First, as to the nonsequitur, you were one of the biggest hysterics about how anyone who didn't get the poke was responsible for the deaths of hundreds. I found it oh, let's say inconsistent then, that you and so many fellow hand-wringers on the left apparently believe millions of migrants whose vax status is completely unknown can spread freely throughout the country with no consequence. Given your avowed concern for the spread of disease and your medical training, it's not a huge leap to wonder if you personally took on spending some time at the border vaxing some of those folks. I know several medical professionals who volunteer their time and talents to those less fortunate, albeit mostly overseas.

I really hope your leaps and lapses in logic don't extend to your work. You know fuck-all about anything I might do to help those born into poverty, ( or anyone else) but that's beside the point. You dont/can't deny that banning abortion on demand would "make a large number of people better off than they would be otherwise," so you fall back on the "they'll be poor so they might as well be dead" trope. Not very "Republican" of you.
One thing you don’t understand is that sometimes a problem can be given a solution and then you move on. If there are a bunch of migrants who don’t have vaccines (and to be clear, we’re not really worried about Covid at this point, a lot of them got the usual vaccines anyway)… Then, just vaccinate them. That’s not inconsistent. I can be in favor vaccination and immigration because it’s possible to vaccinate immigrants. You would be stung by that, because you assume they’re all subhuman, and they don’t deserve that type of care, but to me, it’s pretty obvious that they would.

And Covid was a deadly serious thing. I realize in Bumfuck you could hide in a bunker and whatever, but I saw it rapidly kill a bunch of people, especially in the post vaccine era, when it was consistently folks who were not vaccinated who were the ones dying. So I don’t think it’s hysterical to be concerned about the lives of millions of people. It’s telling that you don’t seem to be bothered by that stuff at all.

And I’ve said, before that I have my hands plenty for where I’m at right now, so I don’t have time to volunteer at the border in South Texas. Only you would be so foolish to suggest that. It’s built-in hypocrisy, because there is no way that you’ve given your life over to such a cause so thoroughly, either, so don’t demand it of others.

And incidentally, I’ve mentioned before that, I am against abortion. I think that’s more consistent than any position you hold. But that is because I’m also concerned about children once they’re born, and you’re not.

And you gloss over the major point, that it’s completely handwaving of you, to announce to have such position, without having to make a personal sacrifice because of that position. How noble of you! I’m guessing that if there was a program to where folks got paid a bunch of money to not get abortions, suddenly you’d be writing your Congress critter…
And you'd be utterly wrong. Again. A position I'm certain you are accustomed to.
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. -Thomas Paine
You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality. -Ayn Rand
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

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