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Re: Yay Israel

#51 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:20 pm

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Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:01 am
However, as you rightly point out, multiplying civilian casualties only helps Hamas, so it is in Israel's best interests to minimize such casualties as much as possible.
That's why I am highly suspicious of this rocket attack today that destroyed the hospital. The timing of the explosion was perfect as far as Hamas is concerned. It pretty much scuttled President Biden's upcoming trip to the region (he now won't be meeting with any Arab leaders) and got a new wave of sympathy for Hamas with anti-Israel demonstrations starting very very soon after the explosion. The only way Hamas can win this war with Israel is if the world puts enough pressure on Israel to agree to some sort of ceasefire that essentially locks in what Hamas gained by its savage attack. That's how Hamas has survived to fight again another day in the past.

I don't think this was a Hamas-affiliate rocket that somehow misfired. I think they deliberately targeted their own hospital to turn the tide of public opinion in their favor.
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Re: Yay Israel

#52 Post by Spock » Wed Oct 18, 2023 7:26 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:20 pm
earendel wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:01 am
However, as you rightly point out, multiplying civilian casualties only helps Hamas, so it is in Israel's best interests to minimize such casualties as much as possible.
That's why I am highly suspicious of this rocket attack today that destroyed the hospital. The timing of the explosion was perfect as far as Hamas is concerned. It pretty much scuttled President Biden's upcoming trip to the region (he now won't be meeting with any Arab leaders) and got a new wave of sympathy for Hamas with anti-Israel demonstrations starting very very soon after the explosion. The only way Hamas can win this war with Israel is if the world puts enough pressure on Israel to agree to some sort of ceasefire that essentially locks in what Hamas gained by its savage attack. That's how Hamas has survived to fight again another day in the past.

I don't think this was a Hamas-affiliate rocket that somehow misfired. I think they deliberately targeted their own hospital to turn the tide of public opinion in their favor.
Yeah, I certainly wouldn't put it above Hamas to do it deliberately as it fits their modus operandi but going back to the possibility (probability?) that it was a misfire-earlier in the week, it had been widely reported up to 25% of Hamas rockets fired from Gaza misfire (if that is the correct term) and land in Gaza itself.

From what I had seen, they use pretty primitive launching eqipment-old water pipes and so forth-so that would not be a surprise.

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Re: Yay Israel

#53 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:44 am

“I’m not suggesting that Hamas deliberately did it. It’s that old thing: Gotta learn how to shoot straight."
“It’s not the first time that Hamas has launched something that didn’t function very well,”

Can you imagine the headlines if Trump said this?
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Re: Yay Israel

#54 Post by BackInTex » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:52 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:44 am
“I’m not suggesting that Hamas deliberately did it. It’s that old thing: Gotta learn how to shoot straight."
“It’s not the first time that Hamas has launched something that didn’t function very well,”

Can you imagine the headlines if Trump said this?
Oh I know what they'd say.....Trump is supporting Hamas.
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Re: Yay Israel

#55 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:07 am

BackInTex wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:52 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:44 am
“I’m not suggesting that Hamas deliberately did it. It’s that old thing: Gotta learn how to shoot straight."
“It’s not the first time that Hamas has launched something that didn’t function very well,”

Can you imagine the headlines if Trump said this?
Oh I know what they'd say.....Trump is supporting Hamas.
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