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Re: UA physically forces passenger off plane to seat employe

#51 Post by Bob Juch » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:36 pm

Tim McCaffrey wrote:This is from the bride on her FB page: To all the press and people who have an opinion about what happened to me and my fiancé on our united flight and continue to harass us please read and or share this post all you like. I as the bride have avoided the press have not made any comments as the last thing I wanted or still want is my 15min of fame. I was embarrassed the day the incident happened and am more so now that my face is plastered everywhere. The story has been blown way out of proportion. We were not in upgraded seats we were not repeatedly asked to move. We were asked once and moved. Plain and simple. No harsh words were yelled on either side we calmly and politely exited the plane when asked. We were than belittled by united staff that laughed and snickered at as I was crying. And given the cold shoulder by United when we tried to obtain more information as to why and what would happen next. The only intention I or my fiancé ever had was for people to know that united repeatedly kicks people not just us off planes for little to no reason at all. They have become a corporation that thinks they can get away with anything. And they have to stop treating their customers like they owe something to them. If you want to publicly rip me apart on social media I cannot stop you. However please do know it is embarrassing to be plastered on every news outlet and for complete strangers to be negatively commenting on my fiancé and I's character does hurt. I am not looking for a pay out but rather for it to stop happening to people. I would like to try and enjoy my wedding as I only plan to have one and would appreciate if the people who think it is funny to hack my personal pages and wedding website and mock me by adding guests and saying cruel things would leave us alone. As we didn't ask for this. And I have enough stress and anxiety over planning a wedding yet alone all of this happening.
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#52 Post by Bob78164 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:36 pm

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K.P. wrote:What about Rip Van Winkle over there who was taking up three seats? Did anything happen to him?
That's one of the things I find fishy about the passengers' account. No way does the flight crew leave him sprawled across three seats during takeoff. --Bob
They weren't taking off.
KHOU-TV wrote:Michael Hohl, the groom, said he and his fiancé, Amber, were the last to board the plane. According to Hohl, they noticed a man was spread across their row napping when they approached their seats, 24 B and C.
The guy would have been awakened and straightened out before the plane pulled away from the jetway. --Bob
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#53 Post by K.P. » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:12 pm

See, if I pull up to my seat, and I see this guy lying in it, I'm gonna wake him up and tell him to move his carcass. Maybe a little nicer than that, but if there's any issue, I'd invite the flight crew to handle the situation. At no time whatsoever would I sit down in a different seat until asked to by the crew.

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#54 Post by lilclyde54 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:08 pm

When the Baboo and I flew to New York for her BAM appearance, it was 8-9 days after the towers were hit. There was plenty of room to stretch out across seats that morning. Several people did exactly that but we were too excited to even think about taking a nap. I doubt that there were 30 people on a 250 passenger plane.
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#55 Post by Bob Juch » Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:04 pm

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Bob78164 wrote:That's one of the things I find fishy about the passengers' account. No way does the flight crew leave him sprawled across three seats during takeoff. --Bob
They weren't taking off.
KHOU-TV wrote:Michael Hohl, the groom, said he and his fiancé, Amber, were the last to board the plane. According to Hohl, they noticed a man was spread across their row napping when they approached their seats, 24 B and C.
The guy would have been awakened and straightened out before the plane pulled away from the jetway. --Bob
Yes, but until then what were they supposed to do? They were nice and didn't bother him.
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#56 Post by Estonut » Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:23 am

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Bob Juch wrote:They could have either left them alone or let them pay for the upgrade they requested.
Nowhere does it say they wanted to/were willing to pay for the upgrade. I don't believe the flight crew is able to handle such a transaction. They should have made their request at the gate.

This is not the whole story. I believe most any flight crew would bend over backwards, within reason, to accommodate a couple of newlyweds on their way to their honeymoon. I'd bet they acted like a couple of Hohls.
Yes, it does say they offered to pay for an upgrade. I've seen others do that in the past so United should have been able to accommodate them.
You're full of crap again. In YOUR linked article, there are 3 uses of the term "upgrade." Which of these do you imagine mentions any offer of payment?

Michael Hohl:
After sitting, Holh [sic] said a flight attendant approached and asked if they were in their ticketed seats. The couple explained they weren't and asked if they could get an upgrade, but instead were told they needed to return to their assigned seats.

United:
United Airlines claims they actually tried to sit in an upgraded seat "repeatedly" and they "wouldn't follow crew instructions."

United:
These passengers repeatedly attempted to sit in upgraded seating which they did not purchase and they would not follow crew instructions to return to their assigned seats.
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#57 Post by SpacemanSpiff » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:00 am

I going to call BS on the couple.

Not only were the seats they chose to move to in a better class (Economy Plus, which of course costs more money), but Row 21 has the best seats in the house, according to SeatGuru.com. Make the bum move and sit in your own seat. Or move backwards (if available) in your own level of seating, which I'm sure the flight crew wouldn't care about. But those couple of rows around the exit rows that have more leg room are guarded like a hawk, and that's true of all airlines.
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#58 Post by tlynn78 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:13 am

Bob Juch wrote:
Tim McCaffrey wrote:This is from the bride on her FB page: To all the press and people who have an opinion about what happened to me and my fiancé on our united flight and continue to harass us please read and or share this post all you like. I as the bride have avoided the press have not made any comments as the last thing I wanted or still want is my 15min of fame. I was embarrassed the day the incident happened and am more so now that my face is plastered everywhere. The story has been blown way out of proportion. We were not in upgraded seats we were not repeatedly asked to move. We were asked once and moved. Plain and simple. No harsh words were yelled on either side we calmly and politely exited the plane when asked. We were than belittled by united staff that laughed and snickered at as I was crying. And given the cold shoulder by United when we tried to obtain more information as to why and what would happen next. The only intention I or my fiancé ever had was for people to know that united repeatedly kicks people not just us off planes for little to no reason at all. They have become a corporation that thinks they can get away with anything. And they have to stop treating their customers like they owe something to them. If you want to publicly rip me apart on social media I cannot stop you. However please do know it is embarrassing to be plastered on every news outlet and for complete strangers to be negatively commenting on my fiancé and I's character does hurt. I am not looking for a pay out but rather for it to stop happening to people. I would like to try and enjoy my wedding as I only plan to have one and would appreciate if the people who think it is funny to hack my personal pages and wedding website and mock me by adding guests and saying cruel things would leave us alone. As we didn't ask for this. And I have enough stress and anxiety over planning a wedding yet alone all of this happening.
I think I'd be more embarrassed that I used the word 'i's' on a public forum.
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#59 Post by BackInTex » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:15 am

tlynn78 wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:
Tim McCaffrey wrote:This is from the bride on her FB page: To all the press and people who have an opinion about what happened to me and my fiancé on our united flight and continue to harass us please read and or share this post all you like. I as the bride have avoided the press have not made any comments as the last thing I wanted or still want is my 15min of fame. I was embarrassed the day the incident happened and am more so now that my face is plastered everywhere. The story has been blown way out of proportion. We were not in upgraded seats we were not repeatedly asked to move. We were asked once and moved. Plain and simple. No harsh words were yelled on either side we calmly and politely exited the plane when asked. We were than belittled by united staff that laughed and snickered at as I was crying. And given the cold shoulder by United when we tried to obtain more information as to why and what would happen next. The only intention I or my fiancé ever had was for people to know that united repeatedly kicks people not just us off planes for little to no reason at all. They have become a corporation that thinks they can get away with anything. And they have to stop treating their customers like they owe something to them. If you want to publicly rip me apart on social media I cannot stop you. However please do know it is embarrassing to be plastered on every news outlet and for complete strangers to be negatively commenting on my fiancé and I's character does hurt. I am not looking for a pay out but rather for it to stop happening to people. I would like to try and enjoy my wedding as I only plan to have one and would appreciate if the people who think it is funny to hack my personal pages and wedding website and mock me by adding guests and saying cruel things would leave us alone. As we didn't ask for this. And I have enough stress and anxiety over planning a wedding yet alone all of this happening.
I think I'd be more embarrassed that I used the word 'i's' on a public forum.
He should have simply said " our's character". ;)
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#60 Post by tlynn78 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:19 am

He should have simply said " our's character". ;)
Exactly. :lol:
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#61 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:11 am

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#62 Post by Bob78164 » Thu Apr 27, 2017 2:13 pm

United and Dr. Dao have reached a confidential settlement of Dr. Dao's claims.

In other news, Southwest Airlines has announced that it will stop overbooking flights. --Bob
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#63 Post by jarnon » Wed May 17, 2017 8:18 am

Dilbert is the latest airline victim.

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#64 Post by littlebeast13 » Wed May 17, 2017 9:25 am

jarnon wrote:Dilbert is the latest airline victim.

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Dilbert got off better than Buster...

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#65 Post by TheConfessor » Wed May 17, 2017 4:23 pm

littlebeast13 wrote: Dilbert got off better than Buster...

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#66 Post by littlebeast13 » Wed May 17, 2017 9:00 pm

TheConfessor wrote:Is that Marshall Applewhite in the first panel?

Yep. His head popping up somewhere is one of my comic's recurring gags...

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#67 Post by jarnon » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:37 pm

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#68 Post by Bob Juch » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:58 pm

I hope the put the flight attendant in an overhead bin. :evil:
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