There's no better way...
- flockofseagulls104
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There's no better way...
.. to convince people to embrace your cause than to make them wait hours in a traffic jam. I know I would heartily endorse anything that made me sit in my car at least an hour without being able to move. Wouldn't you?
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Re: There's no better way...
I'd rather be sitting in my car for an hour unable to move than riding in an ambulance for an hour with a bullet in my gut unable to move.flockofseagulls104 wrote:.. to convince people to embrace your cause than to make them wait hours in a traffic jam. I know I would heartily endorse anything that made me sit in my car at least an hour without being able to move. Wouldn't you?
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- flockofseagulls104
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Re: There's no better way...
So would I but what the hell does that have to do with anything? How does ruining the day for hundreds of people help any cause?silverscreenselect wrote:I'd rather be sitting in my car for an hour unable to move than riding in an ambulance for an hour with a bullet in my gut unable to move.flockofseagulls104 wrote:.. to convince people to embrace your cause than to make them wait hours in a traffic jam. I know I would heartily endorse anything that made me sit in my car at least an hour without being able to move. Wouldn't you?
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You know, you should work in monte python's argument clinic. You disagree just for the sake of disagreeing.
Your friendly neighborhood racist. On the waiting list to be a nazi. Designated an honorary 'snowflake'. Trolled by the very best, as well as by BJ. Always typical, unlike others.., Fulminator, Hopelessly in the tank for trump... inappropriate... Flocking himself... Probably a tucking sexist, too... All thought comes from the right wing noise machine(TM)... A clear and present threat to The Future Of Our Democracy.. Doesn't understand anything... Made the trump apologist and enabler playoffs... Heathen bastard... Knows nothing about history... Liar.... don't know much about statistics and polling... Nothing at all about biology... Ignorant Bigot... Potential Future Pariah... Big Nerd... Spiraling, Anti-Trans Bigot.. A Lunatic AND a Bigot.. Very Ignorant of the World in General... Sounds deranged... Fake Christian... Weird... has the mind of a child... has paranoid delusions... Simpleton
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Re: There's no better way...
The local (Gulfport, MS) NAACP held an event this past Sunday to begin reclaiming a local park by having positive events take place there and get more law-abiding citizens there to help push out the lawless drug dealers that have been inhabiting the park previously. It was well attended by both black and white citizens. Our daily paper has a citizens forum each day and the first comment in today's edition praised everyone involved and pointed out how much more effective and productive activities like this are instead of some protest blocking highways or other areas of private enterprise such as malls or downtown areas of cities.
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Peaceful and positive action is effective when most of the community supports your goals and there's no organized opposition. But I lived in Alabama in the 1960s. You'll have a hard time convincing me that blacks would have obtained the voting rights they're entitled to without being confrontational and disruptive about it.lilclyde54 wrote:The local (Gulfport, MS) NAACP held an event this past Sunday to begin reclaiming a local park by having positive events take place there and get more law-abiding citizens there to help push out the lawless drug dealers that have been inhabiting the park previously. It was well attended by both black and white citizens. Our daily paper has a citizens forum each day and the first comment in today's edition praised everyone involved and pointed out how much more effective and productive activities like this are instead of some protest blocking highways or other areas of private enterprise such as malls or downtown areas of cities.
Given the entrenched interests in place with respect to guns, I don't think quiet and respectful has a snowball's chance of working. If the country is willing to tolerate kids getting shot, time and time again, something pretty drastic is necessary to get the nation's attention. The goal of direct action isn't to change people's minds -- that rarely happens. Action of this sort is intended to get formerly neutral people off the sidelines. --Bob
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Re: There's no better way...
Yeah, this works. In your twilight zone world.Bob78164 wrote:Peaceful and positive action is effective when most of the community supports your goals and there's no organized opposition. But I lived in Alabama in the 1960s. You'll have a hard time convincing me that blacks would have obtained the voting rights they're entitled to without being confrontational and disruptive about it.lilclyde54 wrote:The local (Gulfport, MS) NAACP held an event this past Sunday to begin reclaiming a local park by having positive events take place there and get more law-abiding citizens there to help push out the lawless drug dealers that have been inhabiting the park previously. It was well attended by both black and white citizens. Our daily paper has a citizens forum each day and the first comment in today's edition praised everyone involved and pointed out how much more effective and productive activities like this are instead of some protest blocking highways or other areas of private enterprise such as malls or downtown areas of cities.
Given the entrenched interests in place with respect to guns, I don't think quiet and respectful has a snowball's chance of working. If the country is willing to tolerate kids getting shot, time and time again, something pretty drastic is necessary to get the nation's attention. The goal of direct action isn't to change people's minds -- that rarely happens. Action of this sort is intended to get formerly neutral people off the sidelines. --Bob
Your friendly neighborhood racist. On the waiting list to be a nazi. Designated an honorary 'snowflake'. Trolled by the very best, as well as by BJ. Always typical, unlike others.., Fulminator, Hopelessly in the tank for trump... inappropriate... Flocking himself... Probably a tucking sexist, too... All thought comes from the right wing noise machine(TM)... A clear and present threat to The Future Of Our Democracy.. Doesn't understand anything... Made the trump apologist and enabler playoffs... Heathen bastard... Knows nothing about history... Liar.... don't know much about statistics and polling... Nothing at all about biology... Ignorant Bigot... Potential Future Pariah... Big Nerd... Spiraling, Anti-Trans Bigot.. A Lunatic AND a Bigot.. Very Ignorant of the World in General... Sounds deranged... Fake Christian... Weird... has the mind of a child... has paranoid delusions... Simpleton
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Re: There's no better way...
Are you seriously comparing constitutional, legal gun ownership with the evils the Civil Rights Movement dealt with? You are lost.Bob78164 wrote:Peaceful and positive action is effective when most of the community supports your goals and there's no organized opposition. But I lived in Alabama in the 1960s. You'll have a hard time convincing me that blacks would have obtained the voting rights they're entitled to without being confrontational and disruptive about it.lilclyde54 wrote:The local (Gulfport, MS) NAACP held an event this past Sunday to begin reclaiming a local park by having positive events take place there and get more law-abiding citizens there to help push out the lawless drug dealers that have been inhabiting the park previously. It was well attended by both black and white citizens. Our daily paper has a citizens forum each day and the first comment in today's edition praised everyone involved and pointed out how much more effective and productive activities like this are instead of some protest blocking highways or other areas of private enterprise such as malls or downtown areas of cities.
Given the entrenched interests in place with respect to guns, I don't think quiet and respectful has a snowball's chance of working. If the country is willing to tolerate kids getting shot, time and time again, something pretty drastic is necessary to get the nation's attention. The goal of direct action isn't to change people's minds -- that rarely happens. Action of this sort is intended to get formerly neutral people off the sidelines. --Bob
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Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire
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Re: There's no better way...
The evils the Civil Rights Movement dealt with were also considered constitutional and legal.tlynn78 wrote:Are you seriously comparing constitutional, legal gun ownership with the evils the Civil Rights Movement dealt with? You are lost.Bob78164 wrote:Peaceful and positive action is effective when most of the community supports your goals and there's no organized opposition. But I lived in Alabama in the 1960s. You'll have a hard time convincing me that blacks would have obtained the voting rights they're entitled to without being confrontational and disruptive about it.lilclyde54 wrote:The local (Gulfport, MS) NAACP held an event this past Sunday to begin reclaiming a local park by having positive events take place there and get more law-abiding citizens there to help push out the lawless drug dealers that have been inhabiting the park previously. It was well attended by both black and white citizens. Our daily paper has a citizens forum each day and the first comment in today's edition praised everyone involved and pointed out how much more effective and productive activities like this are instead of some protest blocking highways or other areas of private enterprise such as malls or downtown areas of cities.
Given the entrenched interests in place with respect to guns, I don't think quiet and respectful has a snowball's chance of working. If the country is willing to tolerate kids getting shot, time and time again, something pretty drastic is necessary to get the nation's attention. The goal of direct action isn't to change people's minds -- that rarely happens. Action of this sort is intended to get formerly neutral people off the sidelines. --Bob
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Re: There's no better way...
That may be the single most idiotic thing you've posted, and there's a lot of material.Bob Juch wrote:The evils the Civil Rights Movement dealt with were also considered constitutional and legal.tlynn78 wrote:Are you seriously comparing constitutional, legal gun ownership with the evils the Civil Rights Movement dealt with? You are lost.Bob78164 wrote:Peaceful and positive action is effective when most of the community supports your goals and there's no organized opposition. But I lived in Alabama in the 1960s. You'll have a hard time convincing me that blacks would have obtained the voting rights they're entitled to without being confrontational and disruptive about it.
Given the entrenched interests in place with respect to guns, I don't think quiet and respectful has a snowball's chance of working. If the country is willing to tolerate kids getting shot, time and time again, something pretty drastic is necessary to get the nation's attention. The goal of direct action isn't to change people's minds -- that rarely happens. Action of this sort is intended to get formerly neutral people off the sidelines. --Bob
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You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality. -Ayn Rand
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire
You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality. -Ayn Rand
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire
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I warned him, but he's gone and pulled his stupid muscle. I knew it would happen.tlynn78 wrote:That may be the single most idiotic thing you've posted, and there's a lot of material.Bob Juch wrote:The evils the Civil Rights Movement dealt with were also considered constitutional and legal.tlynn78 wrote:
Are you seriously comparing constitutional, legal gun ownership with the evils the Civil Rights Movement dealt with? You are lost.
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The Vietnam War was also constitutional and legal, but polite and courteous debate wasn't preventing kids only a little older than I was from being sent there and killed.tlynn78 wrote:Are you seriously comparing constitutional, legal gun ownership with the evils the Civil Rights Movement dealt with? You are lost.Bob78164 wrote:Peaceful and positive action is effective when most of the community supports your goals and there's no organized opposition. But I lived in Alabama in the 1960s. You'll have a hard time convincing me that blacks would have obtained the voting rights they're entitled to without being confrontational and disruptive about it.lilclyde54 wrote:The local (Gulfport, MS) NAACP held an event this past Sunday to begin reclaiming a local park by having positive events take place there and get more law-abiding citizens there to help push out the lawless drug dealers that have been inhabiting the park previously. It was well attended by both black and white citizens. Our daily paper has a citizens forum each day and the first comment in today's edition praised everyone involved and pointed out how much more effective and productive activities like this are instead of some protest blocking highways or other areas of private enterprise such as malls or downtown areas of cities.
Given the entrenched interests in place with respect to guns, I don't think quiet and respectful has a snowball's chance of working. If the country is willing to tolerate kids getting shot, time and time again, something pretty drastic is necessary to get the nation's attention. The goal of direct action isn't to change people's minds -- that rarely happens. Action of this sort is intended to get formerly neutral people off the sidelines. --Bob
Your vision of gun ownership is getting a lot of people killed. It shouldn't surprise you that those most at risk are willing to make noise about that. --Bob
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So you're saying Jim Crow was unconstitutional and illegal?tlynn78 wrote:That may be the single most idiotic thing you've posted, and there's a lot of material.Bob Juch wrote:The evils the Civil Rights Movement dealt with were also considered constitutional and legal.tlynn78 wrote:
Are you seriously comparing constitutional, legal gun ownership with the evils the Civil Rights Movement dealt with? You are lost.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.
- Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001)
Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere.
Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and, when he grows up, he'll never be able to drive in New Jersey.
- Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001)
Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere.
Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and, when he grows up, he'll never be able to drive in New Jersey.