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#51 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:02 pm

In marginally related news, Stormy Daniels will be appearing Sunday night at the Pink Pony, a gentleman's entertainment club in the Atlanta suburb of Brookhaven. There will be plenty of additional security on hand for her "performance." I have a feeling the cover charge for this event would be rather prohibitive for me, and I doubt they will have any discount coupons available.

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#52 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:10 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:In marginally related news, Stormy Daniels will be appearing Sunday night at the Pink Pony, a gentleman's entertainment club in the Atlanta suburb of Brookhaven. There will be plenty of additional security on hand for her "performance." I have a feeling the cover charge for this event would be rather prohibitive for me, and I doubt they will have any discount coupons available.

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/dekalb ... /793625136
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#53 Post by Bob Juch » Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:21 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:In marginally related news, Stormy Daniels will be appearing Sunday night at the Pink Pony, a gentleman's entertainment club in the Atlanta suburb of Brookhaven. There will be plenty of additional security on hand for her "performance." I have a feeling the cover charge for this event would be rather prohibitive for me, and I doubt they will have any discount coupons available.

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#55 Post by jarnon » Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:47 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:In marginally related news, Stormy Daniels will be appearing Sunday night at the Pink Pony, a gentleman's entertainment club in the Atlanta suburb of Brookhaven. There will be plenty of additional security on hand for her "performance." I have a feeling the cover charge for this event would be rather prohibitive for me, and I doubt they will have any discount coupons available.

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Her Philadelphia appearance was nothing like that.
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#57 Post by jarnon » Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:41 pm

Chris Cuomo played the tape on CNN this evening.



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silverscreenselect wrote:In marginally related news, Stormy Daniels will be appearing Sunday night at the Pink Pony, a gentleman's entertainment club in the Atlanta suburb of Brookhaven. There will be plenty of additional security on hand for her "performance." I have a feeling the cover charge for this event would be rather prohibitive for me, and I doubt they will have any discount coupons available.

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/dekalb ... /793625136
It looks like I didn't miss much. Stormy Daniels cancelled her performance two days before the show due to what Michael Avenatti called a "family issue." That may have to do with the fact that her husband had just filed for divorce and was seeking a restraining order on her. His grounds: adultery (since the couple married in 2015, her fling with Donald Trump wouldn't be relevant).

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#59 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:05 am

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silverscreenselect wrote:In marginally related news, Stormy Daniels will be appearing Sunday night at the Pink Pony, a gentleman's entertainment club in the Atlanta suburb of Brookhaven. There will be plenty of additional security on hand for her "performance." I have a feeling the cover charge for this event would be rather prohibitive for me, and I doubt they will have any discount coupons available.

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/dekalb ... /793625136
It looks like I didn't miss much. Stormy Daniels cancelled her performance two days before the show due to what Michael Avenatti called a "family issue." That may have to do with the fact that her husband had just filed for divorce and was seeking a restraining order on her. His grounds: adultery (since the couple married in 2015, her fling with Donald Trump wouldn't be relevant).

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regiona ... DkizgpU2K/
Accusing a porn star of committing adultery? What is this world coming to?
Will being divorced hurt her with democrat voters when she runs for office?
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#60 Post by Bob78164 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:37 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:In marginally related news, Stormy Daniels will be appearing Sunday night at the Pink Pony, a gentleman's entertainment club in the Atlanta suburb of Brookhaven. There will be plenty of additional security on hand for her "performance." I have a feeling the cover charge for this event would be rather prohibitive for me, and I doubt they will have any discount coupons available.

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/dekalb ... /793625136
It looks like I didn't miss much. Stormy Daniels cancelled her performance two days before the show due to what Michael Avenatti called a "family issue." That may have to do with the fact that her husband had just filed for divorce and was seeking a restraining order on her. His grounds: adultery (since the couple married in 2015, her fling with Donald Trump wouldn't be relevant).

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regiona ... DkizgpU2K/
By the way, it appears that, contrary to police reports that Ms. Daniels was arrested because she was caught up in a pre-existing sting operation, she was actually targeted days in advance of her appearance. It's not much of a leap to assume that the reasons she was targeted were political.

And this, by the way, is what actual bias looks like. It's not the political preferences of the investigating officers. It's when they do something differently because of those preferences. --Bob
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#61 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:31 am

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silverscreenselect wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:In marginally related news, Stormy Daniels will be appearing Sunday night at the Pink Pony, a gentleman's entertainment club in the Atlanta suburb of Brookhaven. There will be plenty of additional security on hand for her "performance." I have a feeling the cover charge for this event would be rather prohibitive for me, and I doubt they will have any discount coupons available.

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/dekalb ... /793625136
It looks like I didn't miss much. Stormy Daniels cancelled her performance two days before the show due to what Michael Avenatti called a "family issue." That may have to do with the fact that her husband had just filed for divorce and was seeking a restraining order on her. His grounds: adultery (since the couple married in 2015, her fling with Donald Trump wouldn't be relevant).

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regiona ... DkizgpU2K/
By the way, it appears that, contrary to police reports that Ms. Daniels was arrested because she was caught up in a pre-existing sting operation, she was actually targeted days in advance of her appearance. It's not much of a leap to assume that the reasons she was targeted were political.

And this, by the way, is what actual bias looks like. It's not the political preferences of the investigating officers. It's when they do something differently because of those preferences. --Bob
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#62 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:35 pm

According to the Wall Street Journal, the CFO of the Trump Organization, Michael Weisselberg, has been subpoenaed by a New York federal grand jury. And, before anyone starts hollering about Mueller overreach, this is not Mueller's investigators, but the regular prosecutors who would look into such things as money laundering and fraud.
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#63 Post by jarnon » Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:10 pm

CNN wrote:JUST NOW: “He has lied all his life.”

Rudy Giuliani on Michael Cohen now saying @realDonaldTrump knew of Trump Tower meeting beforehand.

It’s on.
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#64 Post by Bob78164 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:15 pm

jarnon wrote:
CNN wrote:JUST NOW: “He has lied all his life.”

Rudy Giuliani on Michael Cohen now saying @realDonaldTrump knew of Trump Tower meeting beforehand.

It’s on.
The lawyers and the lawyers' lawyers are feeding on each other. It's like a house of cards collapsing. (Pardon the mixed metaphor.)
Was Giuliani talking about Cohen or Donny?

According to Lanny Davis, Cohen is willing to testify to that effect under oath. That, right there, is evidence of collusion. --Bob
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#65 Post by jarnon » Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:25 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
jarnon wrote:
CNN wrote:JUST NOW: “He has lied all his life.”

Rudy Giuliani on Michael Cohen now saying @realDonaldTrump knew of Trump Tower meeting beforehand.

It’s on.
The lawyers and the lawyers' lawyers are feeding on each other. It's like a house of cards collapsing. (Pardon the mixed metaphor.)
Was Giuliani talking about Cohen or Donny?
I can't tell if that's a serious question. Here's the whole interview:



You can listen to Giuliani ripping into Cohen for as long as you like.
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#66 Post by Bob78164 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:28 pm

jarnon wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:Was Giuliani talking about Cohen or Donny?
I can't tell if that's a serious question.
It wasn't. --Bob
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#67 Post by jarnon » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:10 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:According to the Wall Street Journal, the CFO of the Trump Organization, Michael Weisselberg, has been subpoenaed by a New York federal grand jury. And, before anyone starts hollering about Mueller overreach, this is not Mueller's investigators, but the regular prosecutors who would look into such things as money laundering and fraud.
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#68 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:26 am

jarnon wrote: It’s on.
The lawyers and the lawyers' lawyers are feeding on each other. It's like a house of cards collapsing. (Pardon the mixed metaphor.)[/quote]

From what I've been able to gather from the stories, Cohen does not have corroboration of his statement that Trump knew about the meeting, and his statement, by itself, is problematic since he has some considerable credibility problems. Of course, there's no telling what other corroboration Mueller may already have, and Cohen's testimony might just be the icing on the cake.

There's also a question of who leaked this. Cohen denies it (again there's a problem with credibility here) and it's hard to believe this coming from either Trump people, if they know about what's been going on between Cohen's attorneys and Mueller, or from the Mueller investigation.

One thing that is going to change and very publicly in the next few days is the Manafort trial. This will be the public's first chance to see the type of prosecutor Mueller is, and if he puts on a really tight case against Manafort, that will bolster his credibility when the indictments do start coming down, and they will.

And, by the way, it's Ben Affleck in The Accountant, not Ben Stiller (although that might have made for an interesting movie of its own).
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silverscreenselect wrote:
jarnon wrote: It’s on.
The lawyers and the lawyers' lawyers are feeding on each other. It's like a house of cards collapsing. (Pardon the mixed metaphor.)

From what I've been able to gather from the stories, Cohen does not have corroboration of his statement that Trump knew about the meeting, and his statement, by itself, is problematic since he has some considerable credibility problems. Of course, there's no telling what other corroboration Mueller may already have, and Cohen's testimony might just be the icing on the cake.

There's also a question of who leaked this. Cohen denies it (again there's a problem with credibility here) and it's hard to believe this coming from either Trump people, if they know about what's been going on between Cohen's attorneys and Mueller, or from the Mueller investigation.

One thing that is going to change and very publicly in the next few days is the Manafort trial. This will be the public's first chance to see the type of prosecutor Mueller is, and if he puts on a really tight case against Manafort, that will bolster his credibility when the indictments do start coming down, and they will.

And, by the way, it's Ben Affleck in The Accountant, not Ben Stiller (although that might have made for an interesting movie of its own).
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#70 Post by Bob78164 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:37 pm

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silverscreenselect wrote:
jarnon wrote: It’s on.
The lawyers and the lawyers' lawyers are feeding on each other. It's like a house of cards collapsing. (Pardon the mixed metaphor.)

From what I've been able to gather from the stories, Cohen does not have corroboration of his statement that Trump knew about the meeting, and his statement, by itself, is problematic since he has some considerable credibility problems. Of course, there's no telling what other corroboration Mueller may already have, and Cohen's testimony might just be the icing on the cake.

There's also a question of who leaked this. Cohen denies it (again there's a problem with credibility here) and it's hard to believe this coming from either Trump people, if they know about what's been going on between Cohen's attorneys and Mueller, or from the Mueller investigation.

One thing that is going to change and very publicly in the next few days is the Manafort trial. This will be the public's first chance to see the type of prosecutor Mueller is, and if he puts on a really tight case against Manafort, that will bolster his credibility when the indictments do start coming down, and they will.

And, by the way, it's Ben Affleck in The Accountant, not Ben Stiller (although that might have made for an interesting movie of its own).
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jarnon wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:
jarnon wrote:The lawyers and the lawyers' lawyers are feeding on each other. It's like a house of cards collapsing. (Pardon the mixed metaphor.)
Was Giuliani talking about Cohen or Donny?
I can't tell if that's a serious question. Here's the whole interview:



You can listen to Giuliani ripping into Cohen for as long as you like.
So was Rudy lying then or is he lying now? --Bob
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#72 Post by jarnon » Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:15 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
jarnon wrote:You can listen to Giuliani ripping into Cohen for as long as you like.
So was Rudy lying then or is he lying now? --Bob
Back then Giuliani called Cohen an honest honorable lawyer. That's as real as a Martian or a unicorn.

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jarnon wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:
jarnon wrote:You can listen to Giuliani ripping into Cohen for as long as you like.
So was Rudy lying then or is he lying now? --Bob
Back then Giuliani called Cohen an honest honorable lawyer. That's as real as a Martian or a unicorn.

If you always bet that Giuliani, Cohen, Avenatti etc. are lying, you'll win the bet most of the time.
I haven't yet seen evidence that Avenatti has said anything that turned out not to be true. And I certainly think of myself as both honest and honorable. There are many of us. --Bob
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#74 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:33 pm

Bob78164 wrote:So was Rudy lying then or is he lying now? --Bob
If his lips are moving, he's lying.
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#75 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:54 pm

Bob78164 wrote: And I certainly think of myself as both honest and honorable. There are many of us. --Bob
From what you present on the bored, bob-tel, you are neither.
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