Manafort cuts a deal (tentative)

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Re: Manafort cuts a deal (tentative)

#26 Post by jarnon » Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:47 pm

I'm no lawyer, but IMHO Manafort's such a liar that his testimony, even if it's a complete confession, is so unreliable that it can't be used to prosecute anyone else.

There are rumors that Manafort saw Julian Assange more than once at the Ecuadoran embassy in London, and later traveled to Ecuador and met its president. It any of that is true, Mueller will need to prove it with independent evidence.
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Re: Manafort cuts a deal (tentative)

#27 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:16 pm

jarnon wrote:I'm no lawyer, but IMHO Manafort's such a liar that his testimony, even if it's a complete confession, is so unreliable that it can't be used to prosecute anyone else.

There are rumors that Manafort saw Julian Assange more than once at the Ecuadoran embassy in London, and later traveled to Ecuador and met its president. It any of that is true, Mueller will need to prove it with independent evidence.
If you look back at Manafort's own trial, you can see how his testimony would help in a trial against Stone or anyone else. Rick Gates testified against Manafort and he was accused of being a liar as well. But what Gates did, and what Manafort could do, would be to connect all the dots for the jury. In this case, all the dots would be all the other bits and pieces of evidence introduced in the trial, which might be very confusing for jurors having to assemble it all on their own.
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Re: Manafort cuts a deal (tentative)

#28 Post by Bob78164 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:25 pm

bazodee wrote:Questions to the attorneys here: Does this Manafort development mean that none of his testimony will be admissible, or just that juries would have to exercise judgment about how much to believe? Will he have become so unreliable a witness for the prosecution that he can't be used? Is this a setback for any prosecution of other targets?
It’s admissible. Whether to believe it is up to the jury. But with the deal off, he may again be able to assert the Fifth Amendment. —Bob
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#29 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:59 am

Manafort and Jerome Corsi have both managed to royally screw themselves in finding out that Mueller doesn't screw around.
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#30 Post by Bob78164 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:11 am

silverscreenselect wrote:Manafort and Jerome Corsi have both managed to royally screw themselves in finding out that Mueller doesn't screw around.
The interesting speculation I read is that Mueller waited until after Donny provided his sworn answers to direct his guns back at Manafort because he knew Manafort was feeding Donny information and wanted to see whether Donny’s sworn answers would track Manafort’s provable lies. —Bob
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