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by tlynn78 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:13 am
silverscreenselect wrote:flockofseagulls104 wrote:Here's another one, aSSShole, that convincingly demonstrates the decline of journalistic standards. Please research on your own how the story evolved or devolved if you will.
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/watch ... e-changer/
Please refrain from your redundant, predictable and obligatory response and it's accompanying swipe at me. I post this just to try and educate you. If it amazes, amuses or makes you glad in some way, I am happy, but I ask you to pleasure yourself in private.
There's additional footage of those high school students from before this particular incident. They were acting like jerks beforehand and during the incident. A large part of the problem is a complete lack of adult supervision over this group. A couple of responsible adults could have defused the entire situation.
WHAT??!?!? High school kids were acting foolish on a school trip???!?
Missing the point, as usual, SSS. How the kids might (or might not have) behaved before the incident that was ALL OVER the "News" wasn't the story that was ALL OVER the "News." The FACT that most of the main stream media outlets ran with the false claim of the Native American activist, without any apparent thought of checking their 'facts' is the real story. But don't worry - it'll die a quick death, brushed under the rug by those same media outlets, and the next, new, shiny exploitation will be along shortly, over which you will be able to clutch your pearls.
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by flockofseagulls104 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:36 am
silverscreenselect wrote:flockofseagulls104 wrote:Here's another one, aSSShole, that convincingly demonstrates the decline of journalistic standards. Please research on your own how the story evolved or devolved if you will.
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/watch ... e-changer/
Please refrain from your redundant, predictable and obligatory response and it's accompanying swipe at me. I post this just to try and educate you. If it amazes, amuses or makes you glad in some way, I am happy, but I ask you to pleasure yourself in private.
There's additional footage of those high school students from before this particular incident. They were acting like jerks beforehand and during the incident. A large part of the problem is a complete lack of adult supervision over this group. A couple of responsible adults could have defused the entire situation.
Nothing learned.
We who are not consumed by hate of trump and/or hate of anything not in our narrative see this kind of bias in our MSM everyday. It is even worse with social media. Can you see beyond your nose?
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by silverscreenselect » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:37 am
tlynn78 wrote:WHAT??!?!? High school kids were acting foolish on a school trip???!?
They weren't "acting foolish"; they were acting like entitled, bigoted jerks who inflamed a potentially volatile situation (and yes, the group of Black Hebrews contributed more than their share to the situation). I guess the full story was that a group of four Black Hebrews acted badly and a much larger group of Covington students helped escalate the situation.
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by flockofseagulls104 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:40 am
silverscreenselect wrote:tlynn78 wrote:WHAT??!?!? High school kids were acting foolish on a school trip???!?
They weren't "acting foolish"; they were acting like entitled, bigoted jerks who inflamed a potentially volatile situation (and yes, the group of Black Hebrews contributed more than their share to the situation). I guess the full story was that a group of four Black Hebrews acted badly and a much larger group of Covington students helped escalate the situation.
In the works of Captain Kirk: ...like a poor marksman, you keep missing the target!
Everyone in the situation acted badly. So what did the MSM report?
Limbaugh calls them the Driveby Media. An apt description in this case.
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by Bob Juch » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:44 am
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by silverscreenselect » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:45 am
Pastor Marshall Jolly wrote:I served an Episcopal parish in Northern Kentucky, approximately 15 minutes from Covington Catholic High School. It's a prestigious all-male school with a reputation for strong academics and strong athletics. You can learn that much from the website. What you won't learn from the website is that there is a sinister pattern of similar behavior within the Diocese. While the Bishop there concerns himself with bizarre pronouncements (such as admonishing the faithful not to hold hands during the recitation of the Lord's Prayer) and quashing "unorthodox hymns" that are otherwise approved for use in the Church, he also has created a culture that is not only anti-LGBT, but also actively seeking out teachers and other administrators who might even hold sympathetic views toward people who are LGBT.
As a (retired) soccer referee, I dreaded officiating matches where Covington Catholic was involved. The fans were always among the rudest, most disrespectful, and mean-spirited that I've encountered--and I've refereed for a long time at almost every level of the game! Student after student has come forward over the years to try and shed light on the abuses that not just LGBT students faced, but students of color. Racial epithets and slurs were commonplace in the halls.
My point is that what we're seeing in the (many) videos circulating shouldn't come as a shock. It's a continuation of a long and disgusting pattern of toxicity & abuse that has been allowed & even encouraged at all levels of the school and, as far as I can tell, from the diocese. While we might be concerning ourselves with "who moved first" or "who moved toward whom" in the video, I encourage you to reflect on this: notice the posture and demeanor of the young man. There is a troubling display of xenophobia embedded here. It's the kind that says that white bodies (read: white, cis, straight, male bodies) can be anywhere they choose at any time, but that non-white bodies (read: non-cis, straight, male bodies) must first seek permission to exist outside of their “place.” This is a window into a perverse system that thrives on toxic, fragile masculinity embedded with xenophobia. And it’s not pretty. Let those who have ears to hear, listen.
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by tlynn78 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:46 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:silverscreenselect wrote:tlynn78 wrote:WHAT??!?!? High school kids were acting foolish on a school trip???!?
They weren't "acting foolish"; they were acting like entitled, bigoted jerks who inflamed a potentially volatile situation (and yes, the group of Black Hebrews contributed more than their share to the situation). I guess the full story was that a group of four Black Hebrews acted badly and a much larger group of Covington students helped escalate the situation.
In the works of Captain Kirk: ...like a poor marksman, you keep missing the target!
Everyone in the situation acted badly. So what did the MSM report?
Limbaugh calls them the Driveby Media. An apt description in this case.
"Wishful Thinking" Media.
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by flockofseagulls104 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:47 am
silverscreenselect wrote:Pastor Marshall Jolly wrote:I served an Episcopal parish in Northern Kentucky, approximately 15 minutes from Covington Catholic High School. It's a prestigious all-male school with a reputation for strong academics and strong athletics. You can learn that much from the website. What you won't learn from the website is that there is a sinister pattern of similar behavior within the Diocese. While the Bishop there concerns himself with bizarre pronouncements (such as admonishing the faithful not to hold hands during the recitation of the Lord's Prayer) and quashing "unorthodox hymns" that are otherwise approved for use in the Church, he also has created a culture that is not only anti-LGBT, but also actively seeking out teachers and other administrators who might even hold sympathetic views toward people who are LGBT.
As a (retired) soccer referee, I dreaded officiating matches where Covington Catholic was involved. The fans were always among the rudest, most disrespectful, and mean-spirited that I've encountered--and I've refereed for a long time at almost every level of the game! Student after student has come forward over the years to try and shed light on the abuses that not just LGBT students faced, but students of color. Racial epithets and slurs were commonplace in the halls.
My point is that what we're seeing in the (many) videos circulating shouldn't come as a shock. It's a continuation of a long and disgusting pattern of toxicity & abuse that has been allowed & even encouraged at all levels of the school and, as far as I can tell, from the diocese. While we might be concerning ourselves with "who moved first" or "who moved toward whom" in the video, I encourage you to reflect on this: notice the posture and demeanor of the young man. There is a troubling display of xenophobia embedded here. It's the kind that says that white bodies (read: white, cis, straight, male bodies) can be anywhere they choose at any time, but that non-white bodies (read: non-cis, straight, male bodies) must first seek permission to exist outside of their “place.” This is a window into a perverse system that thrives on toxic, fragile masculinity embedded with xenophobia. And it’s not pretty. Let those who have ears to hear, listen.
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by silverscreenselect » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:49 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote: Everyone in the situation acted badly. So what did the MSM report?
The mainstream media reported the most newsworthy item. And, as more facts come out, their judgment seems to be proven correct.
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by flockofseagulls104 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:51 am
silverscreenselect wrote:flockofseagulls104 wrote: Everyone in the situation acted badly. So what did the MSM report?
The mainstream media reported the most newsworthy item. And, as more facts come out, their judgment seems to be proven correct.
No they didn't. They reported what most fit their narrative, and now they're destroying the kids to justify themselves. If it didn't fit their narrative, they wouldn't have even touched it. You know that as well as I do.
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by flockofseagulls104 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:35 pm
The noble Social Justice Warriors, fueled by the Drive By Media reporting their narrative and hand in hand with social media have managed to close the school down. Some SJW's who have celebrity status have urged the outing of the students on the video so they can be personally subjected to abuse by the moral arbiters of our society.
This is our media, folks.
https://nypost.com/2019/01/22/covington ... deo-furor/
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by silverscreenselect » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:01 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:The noble Social Justice Warriors, fueled by the Drive By Media reporting their narrative and hand in hand with social media have managed to close the school down. Some SJW's who have celebrity status have urged the outing of the students on the video so they can be personally subjected to abuse by the moral arbiters of our society.
This is our media, folks.
https://nypost.com/2019/01/22/covington ... deo-furor/
Apparently many of the schools in the area are closed today for weather reasons. It's not surprising that this particular school chose to assign a different reason to the closing to invoke sympathy from the Flocks of this world.
https://www.wlwt.com/weather/closings
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by tlynn78 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:10 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:Pastor Marshall Jolly wrote:I served an Episcopal parish in Northern Kentucky, approximately 15 minutes from Covington Catholic High School. It's a prestigious all-male school with a reputation for strong academics and strong athletics. You can learn that much from the website. What you won't learn from the website is that there is a sinister pattern of similar behavior within the Diocese. While the Bishop there concerns himself with bizarre pronouncements (such as admonishing the faithful not to hold hands during the recitation of the Lord's Prayer) and quashing "unorthodox hymns" that are otherwise approved for use in the Church, he also has created a culture that is not only anti-LGBT, but also actively seeking out teachers and other administrators who might even hold sympathetic views toward people who are LGBT.
As a (retired) soccer referee, I dreaded officiating matches where Covington Catholic was involved. The fans were always among the rudest, most disrespectful, and mean-spirited that I've encountered--and I've refereed for a long time at almost every level of the game! Student after student has come forward over the years to try and shed light on the abuses that not just LGBT students faced, but students of color. Racial epithets and slurs were commonplace in the halls.
My point is that what we're seeing in the (many) videos circulating shouldn't come as a shock. It's a continuation of a long and disgusting pattern of toxicity & abuse that has been allowed & even encouraged at all levels of the school and, as far as I can tell, from the diocese. While we might be concerning ourselves with "who moved first" or "who moved toward whom" in the video, I encourage you to reflect on this: notice the posture and demeanor of the young man. There is a troubling display of xenophobia embedded here. It's the kind that says that white bodies (read: white, cis, straight, male bodies) can be anywhere they choose at any time, but that non-white bodies (read: non-cis, straight, male bodies) must first seek permission to exist outside of their “place.” This is a window into a perverse system that thrives on toxic, fragile masculinity embedded with xenophobia. And it’s not pretty. Let those who have ears to hear, listen.
My son attended college with a number of graduates from this school. He remembers meeting both black and white students from CCHS, and remembers being struck by their interactions and sense of camaraderie, irrespective of skin color. Oh, and now 'white' also means 'not gay'? Who knew?
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by BackInTex » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:33 pm
Who is Pastor Jolly?
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by flockofseagulls104 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:40 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:flockofseagulls104 wrote:The noble Social Justice Warriors, fueled by the Drive By Media reporting their narrative and hand in hand with social media have managed to close the school down. Some SJW's who have celebrity status have urged the outing of the students on the video so they can be personally subjected to abuse by the moral arbiters of our society.
This is our media, folks.
https://nypost.com/2019/01/22/covington ... deo-furor/
Apparently many of the schools in the area are closed today for weather reasons. It's not surprising that this particular school chose to assign a different reason to the closing to invoke sympathy from the Flocks of this world.
https://www.wlwt.com/weather/closings
Like a poor marksman, you keep missing the target. It's not there, it's over here. No matter how much you want to divert attention from the main point, it's still there, and your failure to address it speaks volumes.
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by flockofseagulls104 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:43 pm
BackInTex wrote:Who is Pastor Jolly?
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by silverscreenselect » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:55 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote: No matter how much you want to divert attention from the main point, it's still there, and your failure to address it speaks volumes.
No, you keep bringing up other things like the "tragic" closing of the school due to the protests, and when I show just how bogus that claim was, you go off on yet another tangent.
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by silverscreenselect » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:56 pm
tlynn78 wrote: He remembers meeting both black and white students from CCHS, and remembers being struck by their interactions and sense of camaraderie, irrespective of skin color.
I guess the white students showed their camaraderie by appearing in public in blackface.
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by tlynn78 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:59 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:tlynn78 wrote: He remembers meeting both black and white students from CCHS, and remembers being struck by their interactions and sense of camaraderie, irrespective of skin color.
I guess the white students showed their camaraderie by appearing in public in blackface.
It surprises me not at all that you would guess that. You know, you could just 'decide' you're black, and be done with your white guilt for good.
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by tlynn78 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:06 pm
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by Spock » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:20 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:tlynn78 wrote: He remembers meeting both black and white students from CCHS, and remembers being struck by their interactions and sense of camaraderie, irrespective of skin color.
I guess the white students showed their camaraderie by appearing in public in blackface.
I know that you don't have much (read any) experience around the schools for several decades. But the pictures I saw were of a "Blackout." Schools have them and many other theme nights at games to raise school spirit.
At a "Blackout" the kids dress up in black. At "Hunting Night' they wear hunting clothes-etc-etc.
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by Beebs52 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:38 pm
Spock wrote:silverscreenselect wrote:tlynn78 wrote: He remembers meeting both black and white students from CCHS, and remembers being struck by their interactions and sense of camaraderie, irrespective of skin color.
I guess the white students showed their camaraderie by appearing in public in blackface.
I know that you don't have much (read any) experience around the schools for several decades. But the pictures I saw were of a "Blackout." Schools have them and many other theme nights at games to raise school spirit.
At a "Blackout" the kids dress up in black. At "Hunting Night' they wear hunting clothes-etc-etc.
The school's colors are blue and white. I read that they had blue, white and blackout themes.
Well, then
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by earendel » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:49 pm
Spock wrote:silverscreenselect wrote:tlynn78 wrote: He remembers meeting both black and white students from CCHS, and remembers being struck by their interactions and sense of camaraderie, irrespective of skin color.
I guess the white students showed their camaraderie by appearing in public in blackface.
I know that you don't have much (read any) experience around the schools for several decades. But the pictures I saw were of a "Blackout." Schools have them and many other theme nights at games to raise school spirit.
At a "Blackout" the kids dress up in black. At "Hunting Night' they wear hunting clothes-etc-etc.
Be that as it may, "blackface" is not part of a "blackout" night.
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by silverscreenselect » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:08 pm
Spock wrote: But the pictures I saw were of a "Blackout." Schools have them and many other theme nights at games to raise school spirit.
And it's just a coincidence that the "blackout" featured wide white lips on the students.
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