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Virginia Sen. Tommy Norment in racist hot water too

#1 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:20 pm

Virginia Sen. Tommy Norment was an editor for VMI yearbook filled with racist photos and slurs

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#2 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:44 pm

Are there any white Virginia politicians who haven't appeared in blackface?
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#3 Post by Bob78164 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:46 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:Are there any white Virginia politicians who haven't appeared in blackface?
As someone pointed out on Facebook, the phenomenon seems to be limited to men. --Bob
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#4 Post by BackInTex » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:50 pm

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silverscreenselect wrote:Are there any white Virginia politicians who haven't appeared in blackface?
As someone pointed out on Facebook, the phenomenon seems to be limited to men. --Bob
Nope.

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#5 Post by BackInTex » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:32 pm

O.K. Most of you know I don't get easily offended and mock those that do, perhaps even qualifying a non-PC extremist. But even I think this was in poor taste. I know it wasn't intentionally offensive, but come on!

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#6 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:26 pm

BackInTex wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:Are there any white Virginia politicians who haven't appeared in blackface?
As someone pointed out on Facebook, the phenomenon seems to be limited to men. --Bob
Nope.

Photo resurfaces of Joy Behar in blackface for 'beautiful African woman' Halloween costume
I really don't understand this, but I don't understand much of PC Culture. Biological men can pretend to be women and vice versa, and that's accepted and in the PC circles celebrated as the most enlightened behavior in the world. They are somehow a little more noble than the rest of us. They can decide that they want to permanently 'identify' as the opposite sex, and woe unto the person who doesn't accept that. But a white person can't pretend to be a black person? Where does Rachel Dolezal fit in this picture?

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#7 Post by Bob78164 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:35 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
BackInTex wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:As someone pointed out on Facebook, the phenomenon seems to be limited to men. --Bob
Nope.

Photo resurfaces of Joy Behar in blackface for 'beautiful African woman' Halloween costume
I really don't understand this, but I don't understand much of PC Culture. Biological men can pretend to be women and vice versa, and that's accepted and in the PC circles celebrated as the most enlightened behavior in the world. They are somehow a little more noble than the rest of us. They can decide that they want to permanently 'identify' as the opposite sex, and woe unto the person who doesn't accept that. But a white person can't pretend to be a black person? Where does Rachel Dolezal fit in this picture?

I am SOOO confused.
Historically, blackface has generally been used either to mock or caricature African Americans. That occurred with sufficient frequency that it's now the default assumption regarding the reason for its use.

Rachel Dolezal's sin was different. She claimed a commonality with the members of her organization that she didn't actually have, kind of like pretending to be a veteran in order to join a veterans' organization. It's wrong to do that, even though you don't intend to mock or caricature veterans. --Bob
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#8 Post by jarnon » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:37 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:I really don't understand this, but I don't understand much of PC Culture. Biological men can pretend to be women and vice versa, and that's accepted and in the PC circles celebrated as the most enlightened behavior in the world. They are somehow a little more noble than the rest of us. They can decide that they want to permanently 'identify' as the opposite sex, and woe unto the person who doesn't accept that. But a white person can't pretend to be a black person? Where does Rachel Dolezal fit in this picture?

I am SOOO confused.
It's very confusing. You can change your religion, nationality, and now even gender, and be accepted by your new group. But race is like a live wire that burns anybody who touches it. And as Elizabeth Warren found out, even a biological connection may not give you immunity.
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#9 Post by silvercamaro » Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:48 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
BackInTex wrote:
Rachel Dolezal's sin was different. She claimed a commonality with the members of her organization that she didn't actually have, kind of like pretending to be a veteran in order to join a veterans' organization. It's wrong to do that, even though you don't intend to mock or caricature veterans. --Bob
So, Elizabeth Warren is the Rachel Dolezal of politics.
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#10 Post by Beebs52 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:50 pm

jarnon wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:I really don't understand this, but I don't understand much of PC Culture. Biological men can pretend to be women and vice versa, and that's accepted and in the PC circles celebrated as the most enlightened behavior in the world. They are somehow a little more noble than the rest of us. They can decide that they want to permanently 'identify' as the opposite sex, and woe unto the person who doesn't accept that. But a white person can't pretend to be a black person? Where does Rachel Dolezal fit in this picture?

I am SOOO confused.
It's very confusing. You can change your religion, nationality, and now even gender, and be accepted by your new group. But race is like a live wire that burns anybody who touches it. And as Elizabeth Warren found out, even a biological connection may not give you immunity.
I think the pc overlord, cultural appropiation thingie biting the hands of the original and subsequent sycophants feeding it is amusant. Tres amusant. Some French cultural appropriation sans accent.
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#11 Post by Beebs52 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:05 pm

silvercamaro wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
So, Elizabeth Warren is the Rachel Dolezal of politics.
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#12 Post by Bob78164 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:17 pm

silvercamaro wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
So, Elizabeth Warren is the Rachel Dolezal of politics.
In kind, arguably, but definitely not in degree. It's like the difference between (a) putting e-mails somewhere they might have been vulnerable (but were never actually hacked) and (b) actually disclosing the identity of an ally's human intelligence source to a hostile foreign government while that source is still in harm's way. One is bad judgment. The other is outright betrayal. --Bob
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#13 Post by Beebs52 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:56 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
silvercamaro wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:
So, Elizabeth Warren is the Rachel Dolezal of politics.
In kind, arguably, but definitely not in degree. It's like the difference between (a) putting e-mails somewhere they might have been vulnerable (but were never actually hacked) and (b) actually disclosing the identity of an ally's human intelligence source to a hostile foreign government while that source is still in harm's way. One is bad judgment. The other is outright betrayal. --Bob
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#14 Post by BackInTex » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:54 pm

Beebs52 wrote: Bless yer spleen. U a funny man.

I disagree. When trying to be funny he uses a derogatory locker-room term for taking a girl's virginity, but then is "outraged" by similar language that when used by others could under some circumstances be demeaning to women.
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#15 Post by Beebs52 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:17 pm

BackInTex wrote:
Beebs52 wrote: Bless yer spleen. U a funny man.

I disagree. When trying to be funny he uses a derogatory locker-room term for taking a girl's virginity, but then is "outraged" by similar language that when used by others could under some circumstances by demeaning to women.
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