White House security clearance

[Bob78164]

Two career officials recommended that First Daughter Chelsea Clinton’s application for a top secret security clearance be denied on the basis of potential foreign influence, but their recommendation was overruled by their supervisor, who was appointed by President Clinton herself. The Clinton Administration is refusing to comment on the story, stating that it’s government policy not to discuss individual security clearances. Discuss. —Bob

[jarnon]

Two career officials recommended that First Daughter Chelsea Clinton’s application for a top secret security clearance be denied on the basis of potential foreign influence, but their recommendation was overruled by their supervisor, who was appointed by President Clinton herself. The Clinton Administration is refusing to comment on the story, stating that it’s government policy not to discuss individual security clearances. Discuss. —Bob

I got an SCI clearance in 1982. It took 11 months because of my Israeli birth and family connections (though the PM never slept in my bedroom). A few years later, I was having a hard time qualifying for an even higher clearance. A company security specialist told me there were reports that I had been careless with classified information. I expressed surprise and asked for specifics. He said I had revealed something classified to my then father-in-law in 1981 (see above). I discussed the problem with our customer (who was Jewish) the next time she was in town. I got the clearance soon after. So these things happen.

[Beebs52]

Two career officials recommended that First Daughter Chelsea Clinton’s application for a top secret security clearance be denied on the basis of potential foreign influence, but their recommendation was overruled by their supervisor, who was appointed by President Clinton herself. The Clinton Administration is refusing to comment on the story, stating that it’s government policy not to discuss individual security clearances. Discuss. —Bob

Eat more protein.

[tlynn78]

Two career officials recommended that First Daughter Chelsea Clinton’s application for a top secret security clearance be denied on the basis of potential foreign influence, but their recommendation was overruled by their supervisor, who was appointed by President Clinton herself. The Clinton Administration is refusing to comment on the story, stating that it’s government policy not to discuss individual security clearances. Discuss. —Bob

Eat more protein.

I'd advise fiber.

[Beebs52]

Two career officials recommended that First Daughter Chelsea Clinton’s application for a top secret security clearance be denied on the basis of potential foreign influence, but their recommendation was overruled by their supervisor, who was appointed by President Clinton herself. The Clinton Administration is refusing to comment on the story, stating that it’s government policy not to discuss individual security clearances. Discuss. —Bob

Eat more protein.

I'd advise fiber.

Hmm. Remedy-wise you are correct.

[flockofseagulls104]

Two career officials recommended that First Daughter Chelsea Clinton’s application for a top secret security clearance be denied on the basis of potential foreign influence, but their recommendation was overruled by their supervisor, who was appointed by President Clinton herself. The Clinton Administration is refusing to comment on the story, stating that it’s government policy not to discuss individual security clearances. Discuss. —Bob

Eat more protein.

I'd advise fiber.

Eat whatever the hell you want. But only every other day. Disgust.

[Bob78164]

Eat more protein.

I'd advise fiber.

Eat whatever the hell you want. But only every other day. Disgust.

Are you seriously claiming the story as I wrote it wouldn’t outrage you? Because if you are claiming that, I call BS. —Bob

[Beebs52]

I'd advise fiber.

Eat whatever the hell you want. But only every other day. Disgust.

Are you seriously claiming the story as I wrote it wouldn’t outrage you? Because if you are claiming that, I call BS. —Bob

If this wasn't so funny I'd accuse you of....wait for it...HYPOTHETICAL whataboutism. Yep.

[tlynn78]

I'd advise fiber.

Eat whatever the hell you want. But only every other day. Disgust.

Are you seriously claiming the story as I wrote it wouldn’t outrage you? Because if you are claiming that, I call BS. —Bob

LOL - nothing you write outrages me. It barely amuses me, anymore. Not everyone has a twisted need to fabricate fantasy scenarios - although SSS is a big fan.

[Bob78164]

Eat whatever the hell you want. But only every other day. Disgust.

Are you seriously claiming the story as I wrote it wouldn’t outrage you? Because if you are claiming that, I call BS. —Bob

LOL - nothing you write outrages me. It barely amuses me, anymore. Not everyone has a twisted need to fabricate fantasy scenarios - although SSS is a big fan.

Did you read the actual story that I linked? —Bob

[Beebs52]

Are you seriously claiming the story as I wrote it wouldn’t outrage you? Because if you are claiming that, I call BS. —Bob

LOL - nothing you write outrages me. It barely amuses me, anymore. Not everyone has a twisted need to fabricate fantasy scenarios - although SSS is a big fan.

Did you read the actual story that I linked? —Bob

I like Santa Claus (A Christmas Story)

[tlynn78]

Are you seriously claiming the story as I wrote it wouldn’t outrage you? Because if you are claiming that, I call BS. —Bob

LOL - nothing you write outrages me. It barely amuses me, anymore. Not everyone has a twisted need to fabricate fantasy scenarios - although SSS is a big fan.

Did you read the actual story that I linked? —Bob

LOL - a ten-year-old could have anticipated what your linked story was.

[Bob78164]

In a further development, it has now been revealed that President Clinton herself overruled Administration officials and personally ordered a security clearance for First Daughter Chelsea Clinton. The President's Chief of Staff was sufficiently concerned to draft a memo recording the "order" to provide the clearance. --Bob

[tlynn78]

In a further development, it has now been revealed that President Clinton herself overruled Administration officials and personally ordered a security clearance for First Daughter Chelsea Clinton. The President's Chief of Staff was sufficiently concerned to draft a memo recording the "order" to provide the clearance. --Bob

Did you clutch your pearls when Secretary of State "Ivanka" was bandying classified emails around on unsecured private servers because she 'didn't know' "C" means classified? You do you, boo. I'm sure it gives you a tingle to type President Clinton, but not nearly as many tingles as I get knowing that will never happen.

[Bob78164]

In a further development, it has now been revealed that President Clinton herself overruled Administration officials and personally ordered a security clearance for First Daughter Chelsea Clinton. The President's Chief of Staff was sufficiently concerned to draft a memo recording the "order" to provide the clearance. --Bob

Did you clutch your pearls when Secretary of State "Ivanka" was bandying classified emails around on unsecured private servers because she 'didn't know' "C" means classified? You do you, boo. I'm sure it gives you a tingle to type President Clinton, but not nearly as many tingles as I get knowing that will never happen.

No, because I always understood that there was no "there" there, and that the only reason most Republicans cared about it was electoral advantage. By dismissing an actual security threat, people like you are proving me right --Bob

[flockofseagulls104]

and that the only reason most Republicans cared about it was electoral advantage.

Really bob-tel? Tell me why the word 'Emoluments' has come out of retirement in the last 2 years? Tell me why a hollywood B actor decided to fake an attack upon himself? Why did the House decide it needed to hear from Michael Cohen and schedule it the same day as the NK summit? And I can ask at least 8000 more questions like that, and the answer to all of them is the same. You are such a hypocrite.

[Bob78164]

and that the only reason most Republicans cared about it was electoral advantage.

Really bob-tel? Tell me why the word 'Emoluments' has come out of retirement in the last 2 years? Tell me why a hollywood B actor decided to fake an attack upon himself? Why did the House decide it needed to hear from Michael Cohen and schedule it the same day as the NK summit? And I can ask at least 8000 more questions like that, and the answer to all of them is the same. You are such a hypocrite.

The word Emoluments has come out of retirement because Donny is the first person in my memory to work behind the Resolute Desk who refused to put his holdings in a blind trust. Smollett is a jackass who's on track to get what he deserves. And the House tried to hear from Cohen earlier. The hearing got kicked when Cohen got worried about Donny's threats against his safety and his family's wellbeing.

But given the fiasco the North Korea summit turned out to be, the scheduling probably turned out to be a net benefit for Donny. --Bob

[wbtravis007]

In a further development, it has now been revealed that President Clinton herself overruled Administration officials and personally ordered a security clearance for First Daughter Chelsea Clinton. The President's Chief of Staff was sufficiently concerned to draft a memo recording the "order" to provide the clearance. --Bob

Did you clutch your pearls when Secretary of State "Ivanka" was bandying classified emails around on unsecured private servers because she 'didn't know' "C" means classified? You do you, boo. I'm sure it gives you a tingle to type President Clinton, but not nearly as many tingles as I get knowing that will never happen.

Really? Wow.

Cool. I guess if I'm ever in a situation where I need to try to seduce you I'll just go straight to the "Lock her up! Lock her up!" chant to try to get wettishness.

I know, I know. It probably wouldn't be quite as easy as it would be for Trump since, as he says, "they'll" let you do anything when you're a star. But hey, I'm not proud. I'll ride his coattails if I have to.

Back in the day when I had top secret-plus clearance, if we would have had e-mail I probably would have assumed that "C" would mean "Confidential." Just about everything was stamped Confidential back then. It was pretty ridiculous, and I can't say whether it's still that way, but I'd be somewhat surprised to hear that it isn't.

I'd imagine that you have studied the matter of her e-mails enough to where you might be able to show me an example of one of them that was really a big deal -- or even just a deal. In the meantime, I'm going to continue to assume that there wasn't really any national-security situation presented by them since after all of the investigations into that and the Benghazi stuff she remains out of jail, despite 2 years of a Trump-run DOJ.

Oh. Forgot for a second. Deep state.

Never mind.

[Beebs52]

In a further development, it has now been revealed that President Clinton herself overruled Administration officials and personally ordered a security clearance for First Daughter Chelsea Clinton. The President's Chief of Staff was sufficiently concerned to draft a memo recording the "order" to provide the clearance. --Bob

Did you clutch your pearls when Secretary of State "Ivanka" was bandying classified emails around on unsecured private servers because she 'didn't know' "C" means classified? You do you, boo. I'm sure it gives you a tingle to type President Clinton, but not nearly as many tingles as I get knowing that will never happen.

Really? Wow.

Cool. I guess if I'm ever in a situation where I need to try to seduce you I'll just go straight to the "Lock her up! Lock her up!" chant to try to get wettishness.

I know, I know. It probably wouldn't be quite as easy as it would be for Trump since, as he says, "they'll" let you do anything when you're a star. But hey, I'm not proud. I'll ride his coattails if I have to.

Back in the day when I had top secret-plus clearance, if we would have had e-mail I probably would have assumed that "C" would mean "Confidential." Just about everything was stamped Confidential back then. It was pretty ridiculous, and I can't say whether it's still that way, but I'd be somewhat surprised to hear that it isn't.

I'd imagine that you have studied the matter of her e-mails enough to where you might be able to show me an example of one of them that was really a big deal -- or even just a deal. In the meantime, I'm going to continue to assume that there wasn't really any national-security situation presented by them since after all of the investigations into that and the Benghazi stuff she remains out of jail, despite 2 years of a Trump-run DOJ.

Oh. Forgot for a second. Deep state.

Never mind.

Really? Wow.

[silverscreenselect]

Why did the House decide it needed to hear from Michael Cohen and schedule it the same day as the NK summit?

Flock, you should be glad that the Cohen testimony took attention away from Trump looking like an idiot with the Koreans yet again. But only you and your fellow conspiracy theorists could come away from a week in which the President's former attorney accused him, with documentation for some of them, of multiple felonies, and his diplomacy efforts with North Korea fell completely apart and fixate on the scheduling of Cohen's testimony (which by the way was part of three days of testimony before both the House and the Senate).

[Bob Juch]

Did you clutch your pearls when Secretary of State "Ivanka" was bandying classified emails around on unsecured private servers because she 'didn't know' "C" means classified? You do you, boo. I'm sure it gives you a tingle to type President Clinton, but not nearly as many tingles as I get knowing that will never happen.

Really? Wow.

Cool. I guess if I'm ever in a situation where I need to try to seduce you I'll just go straight to the "Lock her up! Lock her up!" chant to try to get wettishness.

I know, I know. It probably wouldn't be quite as easy as it would be for Trump since, as he says, "they'll" let you do anything when you're a star. But hey, I'm not proud. I'll ride his coattails if I have to.

Back in the day when I had top secret-plus clearance, if we would have had e-mail I probably would have assumed that "C" would mean "Confidential." Just about everything was stamped Confidential back then. It was pretty ridiculous, and I can't say whether it's still that way, but I'd be somewhat surprised to hear that it isn't.

I'd imagine that you have studied the matter of her e-mails enough to where you might be able to show me an example of one of them that was really a big deal -- or even just a deal. In the meantime, I'm going to continue to assume that there wasn't really any national-security situation presented by them since after all of the investigations into that and the Benghazi stuff she remains out of jail, despite 2 years of a Trump-run DOJ.

Oh. Forgot for a second. Deep state.

Never mind.

Really? Wow.

Yes

[BackInTex]

Why did the House decide it needed to hear from Michael Cohen and schedule it the same day as the NK summit?

Flock, you should be glad that the Cohen testimony took attention away from Trump looking like an idiot with the Koreans yet again. But only you and your fellow conspiracy theorists could come away from a week in which the President's former attorney accused him, with documentation for some of them, of multiple felonies, and his diplomacy efforts with North Korea fell completely apart and fixate on the scheduling of Cohen's testimony (which by the way was part of three days of testimony before both the House and the Senate).

Please explain how President Trump looked like an idiot, because right now you are looking like the idiot.

“President Trump did the right thing by walking away and not cutting a poor deal for the sake of a photo op,” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, a New York Democrat, said on the Senate floor.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters, “It’s good that the president did not give him anything for the little he was proposing.”

The minority leader urged Trump to use the same strategy in trade talks with China: “

Democratic Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut said on Twitter that talking is never a bad idea and “If outcome is that both missile test moratorium and our sanctions continue, and we keep dialogue going, that’s not a bad outcome.”

Democratic Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia agreed, saying, “if there’s no deal, you’ve got to walk away from the table.”

Link

[tlynn78]

Did you clutch your pearls when Secretary of State "Ivanka" was bandying classified emails around on unsecured private servers because she 'didn't know' "C" means classified? You do you, boo. I'm sure it gives you a tingle to type President Clinton, but not nearly as many tingles as I get knowing that will never happen.

Really? Wow.

Cool. I guess if I'm ever in a situation where I need to try to seduce you I'll just go straight to the "Lock her up! Lock her up!" chant to try to get wettishness.

I know, I know. It probably wouldn't be quite as easy as it would be for Trump since, as he says, "they'll" let you do anything when you're a star. But hey, I'm not proud. I'll ride his coattails if I have to.

Back in the day when I had top secret-plus clearance, if we would have had e-mail I probably would have assumed that "C" would mean "Confidential." Just about everything was stamped Confidential back then. It was pretty ridiculous, and I can't say whether it's still that way, but I'd be somewhat surprised to hear that it isn't.

I'd imagine that you have studied the matter of her e-mails enough to where you might be able to show me an example of one of them that was really a big deal -- or even just a deal. In the meantime, I'm going to continue to assume that there wasn't really any national-security situation presented by them since after all of the investigations into that and the Benghazi stuff she remains out of jail, despite 2 years of a Trump-run DOJ.

Oh. Forgot for a second. Deep state.

Never mind.

Really? Wow.

LOL - I believe his latest 90-day hold expired.

[silverscreenselect]

Please explain how President Trump looked like an idiot, because right now you are looking like the idiot.

The stupidity was taking part in this dumb summit to begin with, followed by sucking up to Kim Jung Un about Otto Warmbier. This summit was something Trump pulled out of his rear end during the State of the Union address and it should have been obvious to everyone that there was never going to be a deal (especially after we told the Koreans they would have to account for all their missiles before any deal was signed).

Aside from Trump rhetoric, we're in the exact same spot we were before Summit I, only Kim once again boosts his international status and Trump has people again questioning his love of autocrats like him. Congratulating Trump for not agreeing to a ridiculously bad deal is like congratulating a child for not putting his hand on a burning stove.

Kim is going to keep this charade going as long as Trump is willing, and Trump seems willing as long as Kim holds out the vaguest hint of a carrot.

For some perspective:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... as-n977866

[flockofseagulls104]

Please explain how President Trump looked like an idiot, because right now you are looking like the idiot.

The stupidity was taking part in this dumb summit to begin with, followed by sucking up to Kim Jung Un about Otto Warmbier. This summit was something Trump pulled out of his rear end during the State of the Union address and it should have been obvious to everyone that there was never going to be a deal (especially after we told the Koreans they would have to account for all their missiles before any deal was signed).

Aside from Trump rhetoric, we're in the exact same spot we were before Summit I, only Kim once again boosts his international status and Trump has people again questioning his love of autocrats like him. Congratulating Trump for not agreeing to a ridiculously bad deal is like congratulating a child for not putting his hand on a burning stove.

Kim is going to keep this charade going as long as Trump is willing, and Trump seems willing as long as Kim holds out the vaguest hint of a carrot.

For some perspective:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... as-n977866

Aside from the FACT that there have been no more nuclear tests and no more missiles flying and that we're actually talking rather than exchanging threats, I'd say you're right. And I'd say if the President was Obama, you'd be in your glory about what is happening. And so would NBC. And, what's more, you know it.
Before the summit, your narrative was he was going to give away the store for nothing. Well, he didn't and now it's a failure because he didn't come back with an agreement, which we know you would have criticized no matter what it was.

I don't know why you bother to post your batphone messages. Just post Groucho singing 'Whatever it is, I'm against it" and be done with it. If only we could convince AOC to adopt the teachings of Groucho instead of Karl.

Here's the only cogent passage from your 'perspective':

The analogy is not perfect, but the collapse of the Hanoi summit and the abrupt departure of the president reminded me of the 1986 summit in Reykjavik, Iceland, when Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev — counting on their personal chemistry from their first meeting in Geneva — ran into the cold reality of their conflicting positions on nuclear weapons.

Their meeting collapsed in acrimony, but a year later they were signing the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces treaty in Washington. Perhaps it's a good omen that hard lessons can be learned from diplomatic failures.