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New Trump Movie Headed to Theaters This Fall
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New Trump Movie Headed to Theaters This Fall
A new movie about a young Donald Trump entitled The Apprentice premiered at the Cannes Film Festival this week, and will play in U.S. theaters this fall. The Trump campaign has already announced it intends to sue the filmmakers for defamation. The movie stars Sebastian Stan (the Winter Soldier from the Marvel movies) as Trump and Jeremy Strong (from the TV series Succession) as Roy Cohn. In the movie, Trump rapes his first wife, Ivana. He also makes deals with mob bosses so he can proceed with construction of Trump Tower. The movie received an eight-minute standing ovation at its Cannes premiere, and will be at the top of Flock's "must-see" list this year.
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Re: New Trump Movie Headed to Theaters This Fall
First Amendment.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 1:33 amThe Trump campaign has already announced it intends to sue the filmmakers for defamation.
(That is the same excuse that Flock, Spock, BiT, and tlynn use to defend Former Guy's defamatory statements over the past nine years, right?)
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Re: New Trump Movie Headed to Theaters This Fall
Wrong, as usual.Pastor Fireball wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 9:11 amFirst Amendment.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 1:33 amThe Trump campaign has already announced it intends to sue the filmmakers for defamation.
(That is the same excuse that Flock, Spock, BiT, and tlynn use to defend Former Guy's defamatory statements over the past nine years, right?)
If you can find any post where I have mentioned the 1st Amendment as a defense of Trump's,or anyone's derogatory or defamatory statements about anyone I'll donate $50 in your name to any verified charity of you choice.
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This is BiT's only post on the issue of whether Trump's BS is protected by the First Amendment:
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Re: New Trump Movie Headed to Theaters This Fall
Tell us you don't know how the law works without telling us. Of course, you've plenty of company in that boat.Pastor Fireball wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 9:11 amFirst Amendment.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 1:33 amThe Trump campaign has already announced it intends to sue the filmmakers for defamation.
(That is the same excuse that Flock, Spock, BiT, and tlynn use to defend Former Guy's defamatory statements over the past nine years, right?)
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Re: New Trump Movie Headed to Theaters This Fall
If they follow through with that threat, one of the defenses a smart defense lawyer will raise is that Donny's reputation is so bad that he's libel-proof.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 1:33 amThe Trump campaign has already announced it intends to sue the filmmakers for defamation.
But I'm pretty sure this is a bluff. They can't get a preliminary injunction -- it would be a prior restraint -- and if the case goes to trial, the defense gets to put Donny's entire reputation on trial in an effort to show that nothing anyone could possibly say about Donny the rapist could damage him worse than the truth already has. --Bob
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Re: New Trump Movie Headed to Theaters This Fall
The movie has a disclaimer that it's fictional, and I'm sure they've got some lawyers who carefully drafted the language of the disclaimer.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 9:57 pmIf they follow through with that threat, one of the defenses a smart defense lawyer will raise is that Donny's reputation is so bad that he's libel-proof.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 1:33 amThe Trump campaign has already announced it intends to sue the filmmakers for defamation.
But I'm pretty sure this is a bluff. They can't get a preliminary injunction -- it would be a prior restraint -- and if the case goes to trial, the defense gets to put Donny's entire reputation on trial in an effort to show that nothing anyone could possibly say about Donny the rapist could damage him worse than the truth already has. --Bob
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Re: New Trump Movie Headed to Theaters This Fall
I doubt the disclaimer will prevent either a lawsuit or (if it comes to that) liability. All the plaintiff needs to show is that a reasonable viewer of the movie would think it is making factual representations about Donny. --Bobsilverscreenselect wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 10:49 pmThe movie has a disclaimer that it's fictional, and I'm sure they've got some lawyers who carefully drafted the language of the disclaimer.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 9:57 pmIf they follow through with that threat, one of the defenses a smart defense lawyer will raise is that Donny's reputation is so bad that he's libel-proof.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 1:33 amThe Trump campaign has already announced it intends to sue the filmmakers for defamation.
But I'm pretty sure this is a bluff. They can't get a preliminary injunction -- it would be a prior restraint -- and if the case goes to trial, the defense gets to put Donny's entire reputation on trial in an effort to show that nothing anyone could possibly say about Donny the rapist could damage him worse than the truth already has. --Bob
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Re: New Trump Movie Headed to Theaters This Fall
Then there’s that whole malice thing.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 2:03 amI doubt the disclaimer will prevent either a lawsuit or (if it comes to that) liability. All the plaintiff needs to show is that a reasonable viewer of the movie would think it is making factual representations about Donny. --Bobsilverscreenselect wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 10:49 pmThe movie has a disclaimer that it's fictional, and I'm sure they've got some lawyers who carefully drafted the language of the disclaimer.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 9:57 pmIf they follow through with that threat, one of the defenses a smart defense lawyer will raise is that Donny's reputation is so bad that he's libel-proof.
But I'm pretty sure this is a bluff. They can't get a preliminary injunction -- it would be a prior restraint -- and if the case goes to trial, the defense gets to put Donny's entire reputation on trial in an effort to show that nothing anyone could possibly say about Donny the rapist could damage him worse than the truth already has. --Bob
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Re: New Trump Movie Headed to Theaters This Fall
"Malice" doesn't mean the same thing in a defamation context as in ordinary speech. It means making a statement that is known to be false or that is made with reckless disregard for the truth. Although traditional notions of malice often come into play, the legal term doesn't mean with a harmful or hateful intent. An example could be a newspaper like the National Enquirer spreading celebrity lies not because they wish that particular celebrity ill but because they know it will boost sales.
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Re: New Trump Movie Headed to Theaters This Fall
Gee, then the whole democrat party is doomed.It means making a statement that is known to be false or that is made with reckless disregard for the truth.
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