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#76 Post by silverscreenselect » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:51 am

franktangredi wrote:Anybody see the Tony Awards last night?
Since I assume this isn't an idle comment on Frank's part, it might mean that this connection has something to do with plays, or movies that have been based on plays (or later made into plays). Three names stand out immediately. Omar Sharif's best known role besides Lawrence of Arabia was Funny Girl, which was based on the Broadway musical of the same name (his role was played by Sydney Chaplin who got a Tony nomination). And Gregory Peck's signature role was in To Kill a Mockingbird, for which Jeff Daniels just got a Tony nomination. Daniels lost out to Bryan Cranston who was in Network, and Ned Beatty was in the original film of Network (one of his best known roles and the one from the quote).

I don't see any connection between actors in the puzzle though.
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#77 Post by mellytu74 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:45 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
franktangredi wrote:Anybody see the Tony Awards last night?
Since I assume this isn't an idle comment on Frank's part, it might mean that this connection has something to do with plays, or movies that have been based on plays (or later made into plays). Three names stand out immediately. Omar Sharif's best known role besides Lawrence of Arabia was Funny Girl, which was based on the Broadway musical of the same name (his role was played by Sydney Chaplin who got a Tony nomination). And Gregory Peck's signature role was in To Kill a Mockingbird, for which Jeff Daniels just got a Tony nomination. Daniels lost out to Bryan Cranston who was in Network, and Ned Beatty was in the original film of Network (one of his best known roles and the one from the quote).

I don't see any connection between actors in the puzzle though.
There are all sorts of actors/Broadway people here … I am wondering what the connection might be.

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#78 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:50 pm

One name that strikes me is Richard Castellano. He only had one other significant role besides The Godfather and that was Lovers and Other Strangers (for which he got an Oscar nomination). That was based on a play that was a flop on Broadway. The movie version produced the Best Song winner that year For All We Know.

I think this movie is the reason Castellano is on the list, but I'm not sure what connection it has with anyone else.
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Re: Game #191: Star Search

#79 Post by franktangredi » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:51 am

I don't think my 'hint' helped. It was a reference to something specific one of the presenters said, and was not intended to lead you in the direction of the theatre in general.

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#80 Post by mellytu74 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:28 am

franktangredi wrote:I don't think my 'hint' helped. It was a reference to something specific one of the presenters said, and was not intended to lead you in the direction of the theatre in general.
I DVR'd and watched on and off. I will go thru and see what I can pick up.

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#81 Post by mellytu74 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:30 am

mellytu74 wrote:
Estonut wrote:20. In 2013, she was the highest-paid actress over 40 in Hollywood; five years later, she announced her retirement from acting.
I'm pretty sure the actress is JENNIFER ANISTON, but I have not heard that she has retired.
If not Anniston, how about CAMERON DIAZ?

It can't be Jennifer Aniston - she was just on the red carpet promoting a movie she made with Adam Sandler (thank you, fashion bloggers Tom & Lorenzo).

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#82 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:48 am

mellytu74 wrote:
mellytu74 wrote:
Estonut wrote:20. In 2013, she was the highest-paid actress over 40 in Hollywood; five years later, she announced her retirement from acting.
I'm pretty sure the actress is JENNIFER ANISTON, but I have not heard that she has retired.
If not Anniston, how about CAMERON DIAZ?

It can't be Jennifer Aniston - she was just on the red carpet promoting a movie she made with Adam Sandler (thank you, fashion bloggers Tom & Lorenzo).
Quit watching fashion blogs and start binging on those Tony presenters. We need to get this solved.
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Re: Game #191: Star Search

#83 Post by mellytu74 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:56 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
mellytu74 wrote:
mellytu74 wrote:
If not Anniston, how about CAMERON DIAZ?

It can't be Jennifer Aniston - she was just on the red carpet promoting a movie she made with Adam Sandler (thank you, fashion bloggers Tom & Lorenzo).
Quit watching fashion blogs and start binging on those Tony presenters. We need to get this solved.
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Re: Game #191: Star Search

#84 Post by franktangredi » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:34 am

I didn't think this was going to be this difficult.

I don't know if this is useful enough to qualify as a hint, but I would like to state that there is virtually not a single movie actor I could not have worked into this puzzle. Some would have confused the issue, and some would have mired us in pretty obscure matches, but anybody who has ever made a movie could have been in this puzzle.

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#85 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:07 am

franktangredi wrote:I didn't think this was going to be this difficult.

I don't know if this is useful enough to qualify as a hint, but I would like to state that there is virtually not a single movie actor I could not have worked into this puzzle. Some would have confused the issue, and some would have mired us in pretty obscure matches, but anybody who has ever made a movie could have been in this puzzle.
I originally thought it had to do with the actor's name being part of the title of another movie:

Glenn Close = Close Encounters
Kevin Bacon = Canadian Bacon
Richard Castellano = Cast a Giant Shadow (with Kirk Douglas)
John Barrymore = Barry Lyndon
Janet Gaynor = The Gay Divorcee
Shirley Booth = The Man in the Glass Booth
William Hurt = The Hurt Locker

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#86 Post by mrkelley23 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:39 pm

I just got back from 2 weeks in Hawaii, so needless to say, I have not thought much about this puzzle, nor did I see the Tonys. I wonder if Frank's comments about just about any movie actor being able to be added to this puzzle makes me wonder about some kind of "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" thing. I know Kevin Bacon is already in the puzzle, but very little else is jumping out at me, other than what's already been noted.

Here are some clarifications I was able to confirm:

20. is definitely CAMERON DIAZ.

62., the way the question is written, is definitely ANTHONY DAWSON.

64. is JESSICA LANGE.

104. must be SHIRLEY JONES. Jennifer Holliday has never been close to winning an Oscar; the guesser might have been thinking of Jennifer Hudson, who won an Oscar for playing the Holliday role in the movie version of Dreamgirls. But Hudson has not had a #1 Billboard song. Diana Ross and Bette Midler have had #1s and been NOMINATED for Oscars, but didn't win. The way the question is written definitely seems to me to be pointing to Shirley Jones.

108. can't be Danny Thomas, unless he had another eponymous show that I'm not familiar with. Make Room for Daddy, which morphed into the Danny Thomas show, aired all its episodes in the 1950s. Andy Griffith's show ran from 1960-68. Mayberry RFD lasted until 1970, but Andy was no longer a regular on the show.

On 12.: I was the one who suggested Leslie Caron, simply because I couldn't think of any other musicals from 1951 with beautiful women in them. I neglected Show Boat, probably because I was thinking it was earlier. Ava Gardner's close-up in that show is certainly more famous than any shot of Caron's. I can't find literal confirmation, but I believe Gardner is the correct answer here.
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#87 Post by jarnon » Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:21 pm

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Game #191: Star Search

Identify the 125 actors in the clues below. (Every other clue is a quotation.) Then, match them into 73 pairs according to a Tangredi, or principle you must discover for yourself.

21 actors will be used twice, each in two different capacities.

1. HENRY FONDA
2. JOHN BARRYMORE
3. FRANCES McDORMAND
4. OMAR SHARIF

5. “Tell Richard I saw the pictures that he sent for that feature on the female paratroopers and they're all so deeply unattractive. Is it impossible to find a lovely, slender, female paratrooper? Am I reaching for the stars here?”

MERYL STREEP

6. ROB LOWE

7. “The only reason people are nice to me is because I have more money than God.”

SHIRLEY MACLAINE

8. GEENA DAVIS
9. GENE KELLY
10. DICK VAN DYKE
11. SISSY SPACEK

12. In my opinion, the final shot of this actress in a 1951 movie musical is the most beautiful close-up in Hollywood history.

AVA GARDNER

13. GENE WILDER
14. MARY STEENBURGEN
15. KATHLEEN TURNER
16. DON MURRAY
17. INGRID BERGMAN
18. RICHARD WIDMARK
19. JAMES EARL JONES

20. In 2013, she was the highest-paid actress over 40 in Hollywood; five years later, she announced her retirement from acting.

CAMERON DIAZ

21. TERESA WRIGHT
22. VIRGINIA MAYO
23. ALBERT FINNEY

24. At the age of 43, this actress committed suicide by jumping out of the window of her fifth floor apartment in Pittsburgh.

ELIZABETH HARTMAN

25. HUMPHREY BOGART

26. His screen career included film adaptations of novels by Ernest Hemingway, Herman Melville, and the novelist referenced in Clue #14.

GREGORY PECK?

27. SEAN ASTIN
28. ELLEN BURSTYN
29. BURT REYNOLDS

30. He was the first movie star to receive the Kennedy Center Honors.

FRED ASTAIRE? HENRY FONDA? CARY GRANT?

31. BARBARA STANWYCK

32. Although his film career consisted of only seventeen movies, he got to work under the direction of Alfred Hitchcock, John Huston, William Wyler, George Stevens, Fred Zinnemann, Vittorio de Sica, Edward Dmytryk, Elia Kazan, Joseph L. Manciewicz, and Stanley Kramer

MONTGOMERY CLIFT?

33. RICHARD CASTELLANO
34. CHARLIE CHAPLIN

35. “I mean, what's wrong with taking him on any one of the million f**king felonies that you've seen him do, or I've seen him do? I mean, I mean, he murdered somebody, right? The guy f**king murders somebody, and you don't f**king take him! What are you waiting for, honestly? I mean, do you want him to chop me up and feed me to the poor? Is that what you guys want?”

LEONARDO DICAPRIO

36. TIMOTHY HUTTON
37. ALEC GUINNESS
38. GARY OLDMAN
39. RICHARD GERE
40. DOROTHY McGUIRE
41. JOHNNY DEPP

42. Between his two marriages, British playwright David Hare was involved with this American actress, whom he often referred to as his muse.

BLAIR BROWN?

43. SHIRLEY BOOTH

44. She shares a name with the wife of one great English writer and played another great English writer onscreen.

ANNE HATHAWAY

45. “I was married to Ed for six years. Only thing he was ever good for was to scratch my back where I couldn't reach it.”

PATRICIA NEAL?

46. TOM HULSE
47. CLAUDE RAINS
48. MICHAEL REDGRAVE

49. “I know there's no such person as Dracula. You know there's no such person as Dracula.”
“But does Dracula know it?”

ABBOTT & COSTELLO

50. She was named a Chevalier of the Legion of Honor in 1993, an Officier of the Legion of Honor in 2004 and a Commandeur of the Legion of Honor in 2013 – which means that, at this rate, she still has a shot at Grand-officier and even (if she lives past the age of 100) Grand-croix.

51. SUSAN SARANDON
52. ROBERT DONAT
53. EDDIE MURPHY

54. She is the earliest living winner of a supporting Oscar.

EVA MARIE SAINT?

55. MARILYN MONROE
56. GENE NELSON
57. GLENN CLOSE
58. NATALIE WOOD
59. THOMAS MITCHELL
60. GRACE KELLY

61. “Thanks for finding my daughter's killer, Sean. If only you'd been a little faster.”

SEAN PENN

62. He was the first actor to be seen on screen in a role that was later played by – among others – Telly Savalas and Max Von Sydow.

ANTHONY DAWSON

63. WILLIAM HURT

64. Her Tony win for an O’Neill revival made her the 22nd person to achieve the Triple Crown of Acting.

JESSICA LANGE

65. “Relatively soon, I will die. Maybe in twenty years, maybe tomorrow, it doesn't matter. Once I am dead and everyone who knew me dies too, it will be as though I never existed. What difference has my life made to anyone? None that I can think of. None at all.”

JACK NICHOLSON

66. ALLAN JONES
67. JOAN CRAWFORD

68. This 84 year-old character actor was recently the victim of an Internet celebrity death hoax.

M. EMMET WALSH

69. JULIE ANDREWS

70. RALPH MACCHIO

71. “You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no Third Worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars.”

NED BEATTY

72. This actor completes the following chronological list: Stanley Andrews, _____________, Rosemary De Camp, Robert Taylor, Dale Robertson.

RONALD REAGAN

73. “I don't know why I wandered out to this part of Texas drunk, and you took me in and pitied me and helped me to straighten out, marry me. Why? Why did that happen? Is there a reason that happened? And Sonny's daddy died in the war, my daughter killed in an automobile accident. Why? See, I don't trust happiness. I never did, I never will.”

ROBERT DUVALL

74. CYBILL SHEPHERD
75. LAURENCE OLIVIER
76. MARIE DRESSLER

77. “Man who argue with cow on wall is like train without wheels: very soon get nowhere.”

PETER SELLERS

78. JOHN SAXON
79. NICK NOLTE

80. When this character actress – whom Eli Wallach once described as having the soul of an angel and the mouth of a truck driver – was asked by a reporter how it felt to be acknowledged as one of the greatest actresses in the world, she replied, “Not nearly as exciting as it would be if I were acknowledged as one of the greatest lays in the world.”

MAUREEN STAPLETON? TALLULAH BANKHEAD?

81. “Look at this! My first day as a woman and I'm getting hot flashes!”

ROBIN WILLIAMS? DUSTIN HOFFMAN?

82. BARBRA STREISAND
83. ANNE RAMSEY

84. Daughter of an actor in one of the preceding clues, she is the only person to be nominated for all four EGOT awards without winning any of them.

LYNN REDGRAVE?

85. BARBARA BEL GEDDES
86. CANDICE BERGEN

87. “Love is the morning and the evening star.”

88. AMY IRVING
89. LEE MARVIN

90. She took a five year hiatus from acting in order to head a beleaguered government agency.

MYRNA LOY?

91. DIANE KEATON
92. JOHN AGAR

93. “You gotta have two things to win. You gotta have brains and you gotta have balls. Now, you got too much of one and not enough of the other.”

PAUL NEWMAN

94. She made twelve films opposite the same leading man, including two for which she won the Oscar.

JANET GAYNOR

95. “You've ruined my life! You've ruined my furniture, you've ruined my clothes! My family likes you more than they like me! Why? All you do is drool and shed and eat!”

TOM HANKS?

96. If they had had supporting Oscars in 1932, she might very well have won one for her portrayal of a good-hearted confidence woman in a classic shipboard tearjerker.

ALINE MCMAHON?

97. “I'm kicking my ass! Do you mind?”

JIM CARREY

98. He was the hero of Hitchcock’s third talkie and the villain of Hitchcock’s second American film.

HERBERT MARSHALL

99. ANGELA LANSBURY
100. ROBERT YOUNG
101. MILDRED NATWICK
102. JANE FONDA
103. EDWARD NORTON

104. The only Oscar-winning actresses to have a Number One record on the Billboard pop charts are Cher, the actress in Clue #82, and this actress.

SHIRLEY JONES

105. KIRK DOUGLAS
106. VICTOR MATURE
107. LAUREN BACALL

108. His eponymous series was the longest-running sitcom of the 1960s that neither began in the 1950s nor ended in the 1970s.

ANDY GRIFFITH

109. SHELLEY WINTERS
110. WILL SMITH

111. “I fight against fascism. That is my trade.”

PAUL LUKAS

112. JAMIE LEE CURTIS
113. PETER BOYLE
114. LANA TURNER

115. “In Vegas, everybody's gotta watch everybody else. Since the players are looking to beat the casino, the dealers are watching the players. The box men are watching the dealers. The floor men are watching the box men. The pit bosses are watching the floor men. The shift bosses are watching the pit bosses. The casino manager is watching the shift bosses. I'm watching the casino manager. And the eye-in-the-sky is watching us all.”

ROBERT DE NIRO

116. JUDY GARLAND
117. KEVIN KLINE
118. JEAN SEBURG
119. GREER GARSON
120. VALERIE HOBSON
121. NATALIE PORTMAN
122. KEVIN BACON
123. KATHARINE HEPBURN
124. WARREN BEATTY

125. “You have no right to call me a murderer. You have a right to kill me. You have a right to do that. But you have no right to judge me. It's impossible for words to describe what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means.”

MARLON BRANDO

TANGREDI:
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franktangredi wrote:Anybody see the Tony Awards last night?
franktangredi wrote:There is virtually not a single movie actor I could not have worked into this puzzle. Some would have confused the issue, and some would have mired us in pretty obscure matches, but anybody who has ever made a movie could have been in this puzzle.
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#88 Post by franktangredi » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:45 am

62. He was the first actor to be seen on screen in a role that was later played by – among others – Telly Savalas and Max Von Sydow.

ANTHONY DAWSON
Yup, I misworded this. I should have said the first actor whose FACE was seen on screen. Sorry.

Two of the answers with question marks on the latest consolidation are wrong.

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#89 Post by mellytu74 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:31 pm

I think I have the two wrong question marks.

90. She took a five year hiatus from acting in order to head a beleaguered government agency.

MYRNA LOY?

Even when I thought of it, I didn't think Myrna's UN involvement fit the clue.

I am thinking it's more like JANE ALEXANDER, head of the National Endowment for the Arts. NEA is certainly beleaguered.

95. “You've ruined my life! You've ruined my furniture, you've ruined my clothes! My family likes you more than they like me! Why? All you do is drool and shed and eat!”

TOM HANKS?

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#90 Post by jarnon » Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:56 pm

Since mellytu74 identified the wrong answers, the rest must be correct…

Game #191: Star Search

Identify the 125 actors in the clues below. (Every other clue is a quotation.) Then, match them into 73 pairs according to a Tangredi, or principle you must discover for yourself.

21 actors will be used twice, each in two different capacities.

1. HENRY FONDA
2. JOHN BARRYMORE
3. FRANCES McDORMAND
4. OMAR SHARIF
5. MERYL STREEP
6. ROB LOWE
7. SHIRLEY MACLAINE
8. GEENA DAVIS
9. GENE KELLY
10. DICK VAN DYKE
11. SISSY SPACEK
12. AVA GARDNER
13. GENE WILDER
14. MARY STEENBURGEN
15. KATHLEEN TURNER
16. DON MURRAY
17. INGRID BERGMAN
18. RICHARD WIDMARK
19. JAMES EARL JONES
20. CAMERON DIAZ
21. TERESA WRIGHT
22. VIRGINIA MAYO
23. ALBERT FINNEY
24. ELIZABETH HARTMAN
25. HUMPHREY BOGART
26. GREGORY PECK
27. SEAN ASTIN
28. ELLEN BURSTYN
29. BURT REYNOLDS

30. He was the first movie star to receive the Kennedy Center Honors.

FRED ASTAIRE? CARY GRANT?

31. BARBARA STANWYCK
32. MONTGOMERY CLIFT
33. RICHARD CASTELLANO
34. CHARLIE CHAPLIN
35. LEONARDO DiCAPRIO
36. TIMOTHY HUTTON
37. ALEC GUINNESS
38. GARY OLDMAN
39. RICHARD GERE
40. DOROTHY McGUIRE
41. JOHNNY DEPP
42. BLAIR BROWN
43. SHIRLEY BOOTH
44. ANNE HATHAWAY
45. PATRICIA NEAL
46. TOM HULSE
47. CLAUDE RAINS
48. MICHAEL REDGRAVE
49. ABBOTT & COSTELLO

50. She was named a Chevalier of the Legion of Honor in 1993, an Officier of the Legion of Honor in 2004 and a Commandeur of the Legion of Honor in 2013 – which means that, at this rate, she still has a shot at Grand-officier and even (if she lives past the age of 100) Grand-croix.

51. SUSAN SARANDON
52. ROBERT DONAT
53. EDDIE MURPHY
54. EVA MARIE SAINT
55. MARILYN MONROE
56. GENE NELSON
57. GLENN CLOSE
58. NATALIE WOOD
59. THOMAS MITCHELL
60. GRACE KELLY
61. SEAN PENN

62. He was the first actor to be seen on screen in a role that was later played by – among others – Telly Savalas and Max Von Sydow.

DONALD PLEASANCE

63. WILLIAM HURT
64. JESSICA LANGE
65. JACK NICHOLSON
66. ALLAN JONES
67. JOAN CRAWFORD
68. M. EMMET WALSH
69. JULIE ANDREWS
70. RALPH MACCHIO
71. NED BEATTY
72. RONALD REAGAN
73. ROBERT DUVALL
74. CYBILL SHEPHERD
75. LAURENCE OLIVIER
76. MARIE DRESSLER
77. PETER SELLERS
78. JOHN SAXON
79. NICK NOLTE

80. When this character actress – whom Eli Wallach once described as having the soul of an angel and the mouth of a truck driver – was asked by a reporter how it felt to be acknowledged as one of the greatest actresses in the world, she replied, “Not nearly as exciting as it would be if I were acknowledged as one of the greatest lays in the world.”

MAUREEN STAPLETON? TALLULAH BANKHEAD?

81. “Look at this! My first day as a woman and I'm getting hot flashes!”

ROBIN WILLIAMS? DUSTIN HOFFMAN?

82. BARBRA STREISAND
83. ANNE RAMSEY
84. LYNN REDGRAVE
85. BARBARA BEL GEDDES
86. CANDICE BERGEN

87. “Love is the morning and the evening star.”

88. AMY IRVING
89. LEE MARVIN

90. She took a five year hiatus from acting in order to head a beleaguered government agency.

JANE ALEXANDER

91. DIANE KEATON
92. JOHN AGAR
93. PAUL NEWMAN
94. JANET GAYNOR

95. “You've ruined my life! You've ruined my furniture, you've ruined my clothes! My family likes you more than they like me! Why? All you do is drool and shed and eat!”

CHARLES GRODIN

96. ALINE MCMAHON
97. JIM CARREY
98. HERBERT MARSHALL
99. ANGELA LANSBURY
100. ROBERT YOUNG
101. MILDRED NATWICK
102. JANE FONDA
103. EDWARD NORTON
104. SHIRLEY JONES
105. KIRK DOUGLAS
106. VICTOR MATURE
107. LAUREN BACALL
108. ANDY GRIFFITH
109. SHELLEY WINTERS
110. WILL SMITH
111. PAUL LUKAS
112. JAMIE LEE CURTIS
113. PETER BOYLE
114. LANA TURNER
115. ROBERT DE NIRO
116. JUDY GARLAND
117. KEVIN KLINE
118. JEAN SEBURG
119. GREER GARSON
120. VALERIE HOBSON
121. NATALIE PORTMAN
122. KEVIN BACON
123. KATHARINE HEPBURN
124. WARREN BEATTY
125. MARLON BRANDO

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franktangredi wrote:Anybody see the Tony Awards last night?
franktangredi wrote:There is virtually not a single movie actor I could not have worked into this puzzle. Some would have confused the issue, and some would have mired us in pretty obscure matches, but anybody who has ever made a movie could have been in this puzzle.
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Re: Game #191: Star Search

#91 Post by franktangredi » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:24 pm

Everything on this consolidation is correct, or includes the correct answer.

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#92 Post by earendel » Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:07 am

87. “Love is the morning and the evening star.”
BURT LANCASTER (in Elmer Gantry)
"Elen sila lumenn omentielvo...A star shines on the hour of our meeting."

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#93 Post by silverscreenselect » Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:53 am

jarnon wrote: 50. She was named a Chevalier of the Legion of Honor in 1993, an Officier of the Legion of Honor in 2004 and a Commandeur of the Legion of Honor in 2013 – which means that, at this rate, she still has a shot at Grand-officier and even (if she lives past the age of 100) Grand-croix.
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Re: Game #191: Star Search

#94 Post by mrkelley23 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:24 pm

30. is FRED ASTAIRE

80. is MAUREEN STAPLETON

81. is ROBIN WILLIAMS

Looked them up to confirm.
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#95 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:36 am

jarnon wrote:30. He was the first movie star to receive the Kennedy Center Honors.

FRED ASTAIRE? CARY GRANT?
This is FRED ASTAIRE. If the Tangredi is matching people's names with a movie another actor has appeared in, Fred would go with Janet Gaynor for The Gay Divorcee. Similarly, Robert Young would go with Peter Boyle for Young Frankenstein. But Frank is usually a stickler in first word title puzzles for not omitting "A" or "The" if that's the case, then The Gay Divorcee wouldn't work unless its's a name matched with any word in the title and that seems like too wide a net. I also can't get a match for Glenn Close, since there's no one from Close Encounters here.
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Re: Game #191: Star Search

#96 Post by franktangredi » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:21 am

What kind of hint can I give you to get this started again?

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#97 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:58 am

franktangredi wrote:What kind of hint can I give you to get this started again?
Frank:

I haven't given up on this, and every couple of days I go back to the names to see if something strikes me, but I can't come up with anything other than the ideas I've had before, which seem to me to be playing a bit too fast and loose with your usual Tangredi rules or lead to far too many alternate matches or both.

The fact that actors are used in two different capacities indicates this puzzle isn't something like two actors in the same movie or same role, but rather that something about Actor A leads to a movie in which Actor B appeared. Since you say that "There is virtually not a single movie actor I could not have worked into this puzzle," I'm thinking that there's something about an actor's name that links to a movie title. But I can't get any farther. The few titles I derive from names seem like random noise.
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Re: Game #191: Star Search

#98 Post by mellytu74 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:30 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
franktangredi wrote:What kind of hint can I give you to get this started again?
Frank:

I haven't given up on this, and every couple of days I go back to the names to see if something strikes me, but I can't come up with anything .

Ditto. There aren't any movie names jumping out at me -- and no, I haven't had the chance to review the Tony broadcast yet.

I keep coming back to this: "but anybody who has ever made a movie could have been in this puzzle."

I also keep looking at the character actors to see if something rings a bell on a match.

I've seen so many of these actors lately - doing lots of movie watching - and nothing rings a bell.

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Re: Game #191: Star Search

#99 Post by franktangredi » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:03 am

mellytu74 wrote:I keep coming back to this: "but anybody who has ever made a movie could have been in this puzzle."
There is one particular circumstance in which someone could act in a movie and not be in this puzzle, but I can't think of any examples offhand. And I tried to avoid referencing any movies that were too obscure.

Unlike some puzzles, solving this one does require some movie knowledge. But the Tangredi is quite simple once you see it.

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#100 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:51 pm

franktangredi wrote:
mellytu74 wrote:I keep coming back to this: "but anybody who has ever made a movie could have been in this puzzle."
There is one particular circumstance in which someone could act in a movie and not be in this puzzle, but I can't think of any examples offhand. And I tried to avoid referencing any movies that were too obscure.

Unlike some puzzles, solving this one does require some movie knowledge. But the Tangredi is quite simple once you see it.
I wonder if this Tangredi has something to do with film directors. Almost every film has a director, and I can imagine one of the Tony presenters giving a shoutout to directors. Plus, knowing who directed a movie and what other films that person may have directed is somewhat in depth film knowledge. But it can't be Actor A in a film that has the same director as some film in which Actor B appears because that would be way too wide. I thought about Actor A in a film directed by Actor B, but I don't see nearly enough actors who directed movies for that to work. And you couldn't make that work for a lot of actors with rather limited filmographies.
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